I don't know if many of you know or it may not be the same in your area.....but I live outside Fort Worth and needed to get an additional IP for home. Well I called and ordered, the tech asked if I was aware of the 6.95 additional cost. I said yes, I know. I then asked him if my bandwidth would be split between the two IP and he said no, the max speed is based on IP, just run the cable modem to the hub and run the 2 pc from the hub. He said the modem could handle up to 10 IP's without degradation of speed. I was shocked! He said most people run a proxy which would split the bandwidth and said that was stupid when you could get a second IP for so cheap and have the same (higher) speed on both the machines (you can get up to 5 for home use). This is great for me....I run an ftp and website from my main box. And when I am at work I could never get in because of all the leeches hitting me. This is why I got the second IP. I am using netBEUI for my home network and mapped a drive to the other machine so I can hit my main machine from the second IP. Works great.........Just an FYI
@Home Cable .....double your bandwidth! (sort of)
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Not bad. I'm running 2 comps on a Linksys router through one IP. So is it the same setup and everything just 'twice' as fast?
From what the tech told me and the results I have seen, the speed is based on IP. Each IP has so much bandwidth he told me. So in other words....one main IP has a max bandwidth of 3MBs, (just for example) when you are running a proxy that max bandwidth is split between the 2 pc. Each pc will get 1.5MBs.
With the second IP each pc gets 3MBs. Get it?
With the second IP each pc gets 3MBs. Get it?
Zwingle,
Have you made any registry changes for your connection. By default win98 is set up for dial up access, not broadband. Go to http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks and see what the test says. I tripled my bandwith from 1.1 mbps to 3.3 mbps on my cable modem when I used the tweaks.
Scyber
Have you made any registry changes for your connection. By default win98 is set up for dial up access, not broadband. Go to http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks and see what the test says. I tripled my bandwith from 1.1 mbps to 3.3 mbps on my cable modem when I used the tweaks.
Scyber
I have done all the tweaks....I have good speeds. Unfortunately I have about 10 users hitting me during the day leeching apps and stuff from me. So, my bandwidth was gone when I would try to get in. Hence the second IP idea.
No....you can't have 2 IP addresses on one pc. So no double speed to 1 pc.....this is if you have a wife that always is b!tching that she wants to get on the pc......I was tired of sharing my speed.....
Ooops my mistake....you can have multiple nics in Win2k and NT...and each can have an different IP....BUT it will not increase your speed it will load balance the info coming in.
Ooops my mistake....you can have multiple nics in Win2k and NT...and each can have an different IP....BUT it will not increase your speed it will load balance the info coming in.
Question...What is your Upstream speed? Mine is merely a fraction of my downstream speed and I was wondering what other people are getting. I am using Comcast@home.
Scyber
Scyber
Cyber, I have comcast also (in Charleston). There is a 128kbs upstream limit on our cable modems....
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I'd be weary of what the cable techs tell you. A lot of times they are clueless and make stuff up as they go along. I'm doubtful that the cable company will actually double the bandwidth when you add a second IP. It's quite possible, I just doubt they do it in practice.
A good test: You could set both machines up as a file server and let someone w/ cable download from both machines and see what the max throughput is vs just dl'ing from one machine. That will tell you for certain if they are doubling your bandwidth (at least the upload bandwidth--which is the one that is capped very low usually).
Of course all this varies by cable company so even if you are right for @home, other providers may not follow the same policies.
A good test: You could set both machines up as a file server and let someone w/ cable download from both machines and see what the max throughput is vs just dl'ing from one machine. That will tell you for certain if they are doubling your bandwidth (at least the upload bandwidth--which is the one that is capped very low usually).
Of course all this varies by cable company so even if you are right for @home, other providers may not follow the same policies.
I am on a node that only has about 14 people on it, and according to a tech I know. He said the this is a low number. He also said they are a bit lax on enforcing the upload speed cap at 128 unless they see traffic increase dramatically. I usually get anywhere from 150-200. But have seen as high as 800. Be careful.....in my area I get scanned several times a day from the cable company looking for servers running. Have a good firewall and block any IP that you know should not be hitting you. All my friends are on static IP, like myself. So I set rules to allow their traffic in. make sure you have all ports closed but those you need open. I set my ftp at some goofy a$$ number......I have yet to be busted., but I have seen the cable company kill service to some friend who was running a mail, ftp and web server. He got a letter from them first....but didn't listen.
So Zwingle, you basically run an illegal warez server? Why would you advertise your your dark side activities on this forum?
Word of warning to everyone with cable connection... setup a firewall. After I installed one, it reported that my ports were being scanned on average every half hour for vulnerabilities.
Word of warning to everyone with cable connection... setup a firewall. After I installed one, it reported that my ports were being scanned on average every half hour for vulnerabilities.
if their rate limiting is done by ip adress, which you would think they would have more accounting then ip based, then ya if it was rate limited that way and your cable was not already congested, the throughput of the modem/router shouldnt be a concern as of yet, you should be able to pull yet again the rate limit assigned per that ip address, but i would imagine it is account based and if those 2 ips are under the same account and rate limiting is based apon that , no , guess you just need to see if you can get again your throughput on another machine, if so, then they are morons for doing ip accounting that way =)
hye zwingle please e-mail me at Athlongas@hotmail.com
I would like to ask you a question please its about servers
I would like to ask you a question please its about servers
The 128 upstream cap is not set in the modem......it is set by the cable company. I have tested my up and dl speeds at the same time.(Each pc) They have truly doubled. I think the node in each neighborhood sets the up and dl speeds. The more people on the slower they will be. I hardly ever see degradation in my neighborhood.
i guess this would be a great place to plug the petition again:
DOWN WITH THE UPSTREAM CAP! thank you.
http://www.petitiononline.com/athome/petition-sign.html
DOWN WITH THE UPSTREAM CAP! thank you.
http://www.petitiononline.com/athome/petition-sign.html
This sounds really false. The cable modem doesn't limit the downstream. It's the lines, and the conditions (ie. how many people are using). Also, @Home strictly prohibits running web servers/FTP Servers, and they do scan. So be aware of that, it is in your terms and conditions.
I think they misinformed you. My brother works for @home and I do the same thing you do with the exception of website due to upstream cap. When I first had @home, I was able to upload at around 180 kbps (kilobytes not bits) and now it is down to 60
When you get a second IP it just gives you a little bit of a better connection but not extra speed so if you are running an FTP server at your home on two computers and are capped say at 50 kbps, that's the max you will get out of both machines combined.
By the way, I had 2 extra ip addresses I was paying 3.95 for till I got my SMC router and have not noticed any drop in upstreams. I still connect to my brother while he is at school and download from him at around 450-500 kbps which basically lets me grab a 1 gig of info from him in around an hour or more.
When you get a second IP it just gives you a little bit of a better connection but not extra speed so if you are running an FTP server at your home on two computers and are capped say at 50 kbps, that's the max you will get out of both machines combined.By the way, I had 2 extra ip addresses I was paying 3.95 for till I got my SMC router and have not noticed any drop in upstreams. I still connect to my brother while he is at school and download from him at around 450-500 kbps which basically lets me grab a 1 gig of info from him in around an hour or more.
Actually the CableCo's have the capability to and do cap both the upload and download speeds at the cable modem. The cap is configured at the head end and is implemented locally when the modem authenticates(meaning you can't "crack" the caps by reconfiguring your modem)... it would (at the least) break your authentication.
Of course, you are also limited by the aggregate bandwidth to your area. There may be (for example) 30Mbps downstream to your neighborhood and you can individually be limited to, say, 3Mbps at the cable modem. You are always limited to whatever the lowest available is, so at most you get 3Mbps and if a lot of people are watching the superbowl adds on AdCritic your bandwidth can drop to below dialup speeds.
On top of all that, The upstream bandwidth limit is generally much lower than the downstream limit for DocSIS cable modems. For example, Your neighborhood may have a 1-2Mbps (example) available upstream but the CableCo can (and often does) limit you to 128Kbps upstream.
I am in the understanding that Adelphia (in south florida) has a 3Mbps down and 128Kbps upload cap for all Surfboard External Cable modems. For all practical purposes the download cap is very reasonable. The upload limit to 128Kbps really sucks if you want to share files with anyone (but for regular surfing the web it's quite adequate).
So, this thread is based on factual information and it is possible to double the bandwidth by reprogramming the cable modem. The question is whether or not your cable company would in fact do that for you (for any reason). It seems that for one member this has been the case and is very good information to know. Just don't count on the fact that all the cable companies will follow suit.
Of course, you are also limited by the aggregate bandwidth to your area. There may be (for example) 30Mbps downstream to your neighborhood and you can individually be limited to, say, 3Mbps at the cable modem. You are always limited to whatever the lowest available is, so at most you get 3Mbps and if a lot of people are watching the superbowl adds on AdCritic your bandwidth can drop to below dialup speeds.
On top of all that, The upstream bandwidth limit is generally much lower than the downstream limit for DocSIS cable modems. For example, Your neighborhood may have a 1-2Mbps (example) available upstream but the CableCo can (and often does) limit you to 128Kbps upstream.
I am in the understanding that Adelphia (in south florida) has a 3Mbps down and 128Kbps upload cap for all Surfboard External Cable modems. For all practical purposes the download cap is very reasonable. The upload limit to 128Kbps really sucks if you want to share files with anyone (but for regular surfing the web it's quite adequate).
So, this thread is based on factual information and it is possible to double the bandwidth by reprogramming the cable modem. The question is whether or not your cable company would in fact do that for you (for any reason). It seems that for one member this has been the case and is very good information to know. Just don't count on the fact that all the cable companies will follow suit.
Believe it or not....I use Norton Internet Security.....highly configurable, simple to use....works like a charm. You can block an IP or range of IP's, choose what ports to open and too close. What IP to allow access and more. I did use BlackIce for a while..but it was too hard to configure and it seemed to be too sensitive an alarms. Check the web site for more info. BTW....I have tested dl files at the same time and uploading files at the same time......the speeds were identical on each machine to what I had when I had just 1 IP. Like I said in my original post.....this may not be the same in all areas....I run Charter@home.
Good post on the info about the headend. I was thinking what you typed......you are correct. The speeds are programmed at authentication......this is why when I got the second IP, the tech told me that it would take about an hour to send the info down and I would be down for the interim....he must have been reprogramming my modem. Is this correct dman? I would assume he was resetting my modem to accept 2 incoming signals. If this makes a difference, he told me that the second IP is in a different subnet......but the subnet, hostname and IP were the only changes to make from my current configuration on the second pc.
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