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HOLY MOLY!!! look at this 19" widescreen

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Originally posted by: xtknight
The Leadtek 6800NU I had had had the crappiest VGA quality I've ever seen in my life. Low contrast, blurry. My new 7800GT is crystal clear.

Is 'had had had' proper English? 😕
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lol happends to me sometimes also
 
I bought a 19" widescreen for myself, but the screen just felt too short. I ended up keeping my normal 19" LCD, and gave the widescreen to my wife. The 19" WS was awesome for widescreen movies, and the few games that supported it, but I felt was standard 19" LCD was better overall.

With my BenQ LCD, I get the same outout in analog versus DVI. However with the Viewsonic 19" WS, the DVI connection was noticably better. I think it depends on the LCD monitor as well as the video card.
 
For older games that dont support 1400x900 natively, will the video be stretched by the driver?

How is this handled? I have never dealt with a WXGA screen before, but this one looks interesting

Is there a definitive way to tell if your videocard will support 1400x900? Mine doesnt seem to have that mode available as a slider notch in the windows display settings

Also the response time for this screen is 8ms right? not 4ms
 
my roomate bought this monitor and just got it today. he was particularly impressed with the image quality and brightness. going from 250 to 500 contrast ratio really makes a big difference (from dell e151fpb 15" lcd). damn, it makes me wanna buy it too
😛
 
Originally posted by: rcllbrg
For older games that dont support 1400x900 natively, will the video be stretched by the driver?

How is this handled? I have never dealt with a WXGA screen before, but this one looks interesting

Is there a definitive way to tell if your videocard will support 1400x900? Mine doesnt seem to have that mode available as a slider notch in the windows display settings

Also the response time for this screen is 8ms right? not 4ms
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actually it's 1440x900 🙂

and yes, it's 8ms (typical). newegg just changed it's specs (and price too! :|)
 
oh so it was never 4ms they just had the specs wrong, they raised the price? what was it before?

do you know what video card your friend is running it on, did he have 1440x900 on his windows display slider before he plugged the monitor in?
 
it was $266 + $10 shipping a couple of days ago and now it's $270 + $14.50 shipping. well, it not much but a raise is a raise

he's not into the latest games. so he runs it with an fx5200. he had 1024x768 on his windows when he was using his old monitor, but windows had no problem detecting the new monitor. after that, it was as simple as changing the resolution to 1440x900
 
ok thanks

i tried sisoft sandra to list video modes avaialable on this card but it didnt show the 1440x900 mode
do you know a way to list every video mode for a card?

also did your friend get any dead pixels on his?
 
Originally posted by: BinZ
Between DVI and analog on my 2405FPW...I swear I can't tell a difference... :-/

-- Chuck --
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Need to see your eye doctor....😀
It's day and night. I used to have dual monitor where my old video card x800xl has only one dvi out and d-sub for another. I finally got rid of the x800xl and bought a dual dvi 7800gt. $269.99 for an analog display? No thanks...DVI rules
 
Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: xtknight
19" widescreen is going to be quite short, but I guess it's a good value.
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exactly. i cant stand the height of my 2005fp. i wish i got the 2405.
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I own both at the moment...Yeah the 2405 is huge. 2005 is a midget by comparison.
 
As mentioned people need to remember that 19 in widescreen is smaller than a regular 19 in, so they should cost less, but smart marketing prevents that.

I think this is counterintuitive so a lot of people think they are getting a bigger monitor or HDTV, when it is actually smaller in area.

 
if you cut the screen area off the sides and add them to the bottom wont the dimensions add up to a regular 19in in total screen area?

not in video resolution though, 900 is definitely 124 pixels less in height than 1024
 
Originally posted by: rcllbrg
if you cut the screen area off the sides and add them to the bottom wont the dimensions add up to a regular 19in in total screen area?

not in video resolution though, 900 is definitely 124 pixels less in height than 1024
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No. The less square a rectangle is the smaller the area assuming equal perimeter or diagonal length. A 19x1 inch display would be about 19.1" diagonal, but only have an area of ~20 sq. inches. A 19" 5:4 LCD has an area much greater.
 
Originally posted by: Nextman916
Its probably not really true 4ms but that is an insane response time for a monitor at this price, even with no dvi. I wish someone would buy this monitor and review it so we have some sort of idea what it holds. My next buy will probably be a WS 19".
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All the people that reviewed it on newegg seem to love it.
 
Ok thanks
I see the main issue with the Chi Mei panel is that it has 6-bit color, indicated by 16.2 Million colors instead of 16.7M

Is that accurate? because I see a different display claiming 8-bit with 16.2 Million colors, shouldn't that say 6-bit instead of 8-bit if it's 16.2M instead of 16.7M color?

I see AG Neovo site has the 19"WS panel listed as Display Color 16.7, but Chi Mei lists it at 16.2, who should be believed? is the monitor panel 8-bit or 6-bit

Maybe with the D-Sub-only port you can't tell the difference, so AG Neovo says 16.7M anyway?

I'm kind of confused about the physical dimensions of these screens, the listed dimensions for the 19"WS don't line up between Chi Mei and AGNeovo but I'd guess they are inaccurate anyway... why can't everyone list standard specs

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19" HANNSG
Dimension (W*H*D)
417 x 447 x 198 mm
Packing dim (W*H*D)
490 x 522 x 175 mm
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19"WS M190A1 (Wide) Chi Mei site
Outlines(W x H x D mm)
427.2x 277.4x18.5
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19"WS AGM CW-19 AGNeovo site
Net Dimensions (WxHxD)
440 x 352 x 207mm
TFT Panel Size
19" (483mm) Wide

Besides the Analogue D-Sub-only, does the Chi Mei Panel/AG Neovo monitor look reliable at 8ms?
Both sites say 8ms typical, so typical means black to black average right, what might the grey to grey number look like based on an 8ms TrTf avg?
 
Originally posted by: rcllbrg
Ok thanks
I see the main issue with the Chi Mei panel is that it has 6-bit color, indicated by 16.2 Million colors instead of 16.7M

Is that accurate? because I see a different display claiming 8-bit with 16.2 Million colors, shouldn't that say 6-bit instead of 8-bit if it's 16.2M instead of 16.7M color?

I see AG Neovo site has the 19"WS panel listed as Display Color 16.7, but Chi Mei lists it at 16.2, who should be believed? is the monitor panel 8-bit or 6-bit

Maybe with the D-Sub-only port you can't tell the difference, so AG Neovo says 16.7M anyway?

I'm kind of confused about the physical dimensions of these screens, the listed dimensions for the 19"WS don't line up between Chi Mei and AGNeovo but I'd guess they are inaccurate anyway... why can't everyone list standard specs

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19" HANNSG
Dimension (W*H*D)
417 x 447 x 198 mm
Packing dim (W*H*D)
490 x 522 x 175 mm
-----
19"WS M190A1 (Wide) Chi Mei site
Outlines(W x H x D mm)
427.2x 277.4x18.5
-----
19"WS AGM CW-19 AGNeovo site
Net Dimensions (WxHxD)
440 x 352 x 207mm
TFT Panel Size
19" (483mm) Wide

Besides the Analogue D-Sub-only, does the Chi Mei Panel/AG Neovo monitor look reliable at 8ms?
Both sites say 8ms typical, so typical means black to black average right, what might the grey to grey number look like based on an 8ms TrTf avg?
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The Hannstar may contain an 8-bit panel with a 6-bit+FRC driver to reach 16.2M. And that's not a TFT module, it's a complete 5:4 (non-widescreen) 19" LCD monitor.

Yes, the AG Neovo has a 6-bit color TN panel and will reach 16.2M after dithering. AG Neovo is falsely advertising it (no surprise). You can still distinguish with a D-sub connection. AG Neovo most likely adds some "casing" to the panel so that explains the dimension discrepancies. 8 ms is Tr+Tf, ~4 ms should be g2g. Typical means most of the time the average of response across the whole spectrum. It could be Tr+Tf or g2g, there's no telling which. I'll see if I can find out by a PDF on the TFT module.

The AG could use this as well: http://www.samsung.com/Products/TFTLCD/Monitor/LTM190M2/LTM190M2.htm

I'd wager not though because none of their current monitors (listed on flatpanels.dk) use Samsung panels but some use CMO panels now. Also the CMO has better matching contrast specs.
 
Hey guys,

I browse this forum on occasion and I noticed this thread so I figured I'd register and give some feedback. I actually just bought two of these yesterday! I'll post up some pics and a small review when they arrive sometime next week 🙂
 
Originally posted by: inotocracy
Hey guys,

I browse this forum on occasion and I noticed this thread so I figured I'd register and give some feedback. I actually just bought two of these yesterday! I'll post up some pics and a small review when they arrive sometime next week 🙂
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Welcome and thanks! Looking forward to hear about it.
 
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