Holy Hyperthreading, Batman! This 3.0 GHz P4 screams!

[OhioDude]

We picked one up for a new hire at work. $479. Dell Dimension 3000, 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB cache, 256MB RAM, 40 GB disk, includes a 17" monitor and a color printer.

This thing is cranking out 2 wu's in 2hr 12 min. That's more workunits per day than my 2.4 GHz Xeon dually server turns out at five times the price! (Of course, the server has 2GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, 2 520 watt redundant power supplies and 200GB SCSI disk and RAID-5...)

 

[RaySun2Be]

😎

 

[JWMiddleton]

Yep, I got a 3.4 GHz Dell Notebook and it does about the same. If I would stop playing 3-D games it would be putting out more, but averaging 20 WU/day is NICE!

This is one place where the P4 kicks AMD's butt. An A64 3000+ is doing 12 WU/day.

 

[Soggysocks]

😀 Nice.....aren't they? I have 2 - 2.8's with 512 ram each I put together . OC'd to 3.2 doing between 19 to 21 each a day, depending on How much time my wife and I are gaming on them. Got about the same into each tower as you paid for the Dell. But since you got a monitor and printer....................You Win :disgust: 😉

 

[kamper]

Yikes! My 2.8@a little over 3.0 barely does 15 a day (depending on AR, I've had up to about 19 in a day). It's a Northwood core though...

 

[zanand]

I downloaded the program to check for HT from intel site and it says my pc (same as yours), doesn't have HT technology. Feeling like am I cheated?

 

[Spacehead]

I just got a Dimension 3000 too($400). 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 512MB RAM, 40 GB HD.
Ran the Ars BM WU in 2:04. With HT'ing the average so far is 2:44 per WU.
SETI Spy shows my processor as having 0KB L1 cache & 4KB L2 cache. How do i verify what it actually is?

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: zanand
I downloaded the program to check for HT from intel site and it says my pc (same as yours), doesn't have HT technology. Feeling like am I cheated?

Open up the task manager and go to the Performance tab. If you see two processor graphs you have HT enabled, if you see only one then...

I suppose it's possible that hyperthreading is there but just turned off in the bios, you could check there.

Originally posted by: Spacehead
I just got a Dimension 3000 too($400). 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 512MB RAM, 40 GB HD.
Ran the Ars BM WU in 2:04. With HT'ing the average so far is 2:44 per WU.
SETI Spy shows my processor as having 0KB L1 cache & 4KB L2 cache. How do i verify what it actually is?

I use cpu-z.

 

[Zim Hosein]

This thing is cranking out 2 wu's in 2hr 12 min.

:Q

I'm jealous! 🙁

 

[theinsen1]

Originally posted by: zanand
I downloaded the program to check for HT from intel site and it says my pc (same as yours), doesn't have HT technology. Feeling like am I cheated?

hey zanand, can you post us the screenshot of you cpu using cpu-z (see kampers thread) then we can see
if your processor is capable of HT?

nice machine OD 😀

alright now this text is for all those who are reading this thread, and getting the good info about which processor is best for crunching, but haven't yet joined the TeAm from which this thread came, i say what you waiting for, come and join in. 😀
right TeAm mates??

 

[Wolfsraider]

Originally posted by: theinsen1

Originally posted by: zanand
I downloaded the program to check for HT from intel site and it says my pc (same as yours), doesn't have HT technology. Feeling like am I cheated?

hey zanand, can you post us the screenshot of you cpu using cpu-z (see kampers thread) then we can see
if your processor is capable of HT?

nice machine OD 😀

alright now this text is for all those who are reading this thread, and getting the good info about which processor is best for crunching, but haven't yet joined the TeAm from which this thread came, i say what you waiting for, come and join in. 😀
right TeAm mates??

RIGHT 😛

I'll fire up the hot tub and get the girls into the bikini's

Mike

 

[theinsen1]

Originally posted by: Wolfsraider

Originally posted by: theinsen1

Originally posted by: zanand
I downloaded the program to check for HT from intel site and it says my pc (same as yours), doesn't have HT technology. Feeling like am I cheated?

hey zanand, can you post us the screenshot of you cpu using cpu-z (see kampers thread) then we can see
if your processor is capable of HT?

nice machine OD 😀

alright now this text is for all those who are reading this thread, and getting the good info about which processor is best for crunching, but haven't yet joined the TeAm from which this thread came, i say what you waiting for, come and join in. 😀
right TeAm mates??

RIGHT 😛

I'll fire up the hot tub and get the girls into the bikini's

Mike

ahhh
finally me and mike agreed on something....

cmon join us people 😀

 

[zanand]

Hello kamper and theinsen1,
Where do we upload the attachment? I am new to this forum. sorry for the trouble. Is Intel utility showing HT support for your 3.06GHz bought from dell?

Regards,
zanand

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: zanand
Hello kamper and theinsen1,
Where do we upload the attachment? I am new to this forum. sorry for the trouble. Is Intel utility showing HT support for your 3.06GHz bought from dell?

Regards,
zanand

You'll need to use a 3rd party host like pics.bbzzdd.com for picture hosting as Anandtech doesnt allow attachments.

You may also want to check your BIOS to see if HT is enabled there.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: OhioDude
We picked one up for a new hire at work. $479. Dell Dimension 3000, 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB cache, 256MB RAM, 40 GB disk, includes a 17" monitor and a color printer.

This thing is cranking out 2 wu's in 2hr 12 min. That's more workunits per day than my 2.4 GHz Xeon dually server turns out at five times the price! (Of course, the server has 2GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, 2 520 watt redundant power supplies and 200GB SCSI disk and RAID-5...)

20 WU's per day is just sick! Heh, I remember back when I first started it took me 4 rigs just to do 12 WU's per day - and that was with the faster client! :Q 🙂

 

[Spacehead]

Originally posted by: OhioDude
We picked one up for a new hire at work. $479. Dell Dimension 3000, 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB cache, 256MB RAM, 40 GB disk, includes a 17" monitor and a color printer.

This thing is cranking out 2 wu's in 2hr 12 min. That's more workunits per day than my 2.4 GHz Xeon dually server turns out at five times the price! (Of course, the server has 2GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, 2 520 watt redundant power supplies and 200GB SCSI disk and RAID-5...)

Looks like mine is doing about 16 a day. Did you tweak your system around a bit or do you know what angle range those WUs were???
As far as i can tell this is the processor in my system.

Thanks for the utility kamper :thumbsup:

 

[Wolfsraider]

Originally posted by: Spacehead

Originally posted by: OhioDude
We picked one up for a new hire at work. $479. Dell Dimension 3000, 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB cache, 256MB RAM, 40 GB disk, includes a 17" monitor and a color printer.

This thing is cranking out 2 wu's in 2hr 12 min. That's more workunits per day than my 2.4 GHz Xeon dually server turns out at five times the price! (Of course, the server has 2GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, 2 520 watt redundant power supplies and 200GB SCSI disk and RAID-5...)

Looks like mine is doing about 16 a day. Did you tweak your system around a bit or do you know what angle range those WUs were???
As far as i can tell this is the processor in my system.

Thanks for the utility kamper :thumbsup:

My 3.2 prescott does 18 a day compared to a 2.8 b doing 9 but its not overclocked and I use my computer A LOT.

 

[JWMiddleton]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: OhioDude
We picked one up for a new hire at work. $479. Dell Dimension 3000, 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB cache, 256MB RAM, 40 GB disk, includes a 17" monitor and a color printer.

This thing is cranking out 2 wu's in 2hr 12 min. That's more workunits per day than my 2.4 GHz Xeon dually server turns out at five times the price! (Of course, the server has 2GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, 2 520 watt redundant power supplies and 200GB SCSI disk and RAID-5...)

20 WU's per day is just sick! Heh, I remember back when I first started it took me 4 rigs just to do 12 WU's per day - and that was with the faster client! :Q 🙂

Exactly! I have slowly replaced some of those older boxes or they have died, usally due to blow caps. Recently I bought a combo deal from Fry's that was an A64 3000+ with a Mobo for $199...I was sad when it only did 12 WU/day. For ~$50 buck more I could have gotten a P4 setup. I got a Sempron 2500+ combo a month ago that does 9 WU/day for $69.99. that seems to be the most bang for the WU/buck.

 

[Soggysocks]

Originally posted by: zanand
Hello kamper and theinsen1,
Where do we upload the attachment? I am new to this forum. sorry for the trouble. Is Intel utility showing HT support for your 3.06GHz bought from dell?

Regards,
zanand

Hey Zanand, What are you looking to find out ? What processer you have or if you have hyperthreading?

Post the specs of your system and we might be able help you better.

Soggy

 

[Soggysocks]

Originally posted by: Wolfsraider

Originally posted by: Spacehead

Originally posted by: OhioDude
We picked one up for a new hire at work. $479. Dell Dimension 3000, 3.0GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 1MB cache, 256MB RAM, 40 GB disk, includes a 17" monitor and a color printer.

This thing is cranking out 2 wu's in 2hr 12 min. That's more workunits per day than my 2.4 GHz Xeon dually server turns out at five times the price! (Of course, the server has 2GB RAM, gigabit ethernet, 2 520 watt redundant power supplies and 200GB SCSI disk and RAID-5...)

Looks like mine is doing about 16 a day. Did you tweak your system around a bit or do you know what angle range those WUs were???
As far as i can tell this is the processor in my system.

Thanks for the utility kamper :thumbsup:

My 3.2 prescott does 18 a day compared to a 2.8 b doing 9 but its not overclocked and I use my computer A LOT.

As far as the dually xeon that 2.4 is probubly running at 400 fsb....that would make a dramatic difference.
My old P4-2.4 a @ 533 FSB did about 8 to 9 a day ....so 16 a day sounds about right.

 

[OhioDude]

Looks like mine is doing about 16 a day. Did you tweak your system around a bit or do you know what angle range those WUs were???

No tweaking. Must've been some VHARs in there somewhere. Just checked SetiQ this morning and avg time per wu is now 2hr 26min. Yesterday she did 18. The day before, 20. I should also mention that nobody is using this system, yet. It's doing nothing besides crunching workunits.

 

[zanand]

Hello..thanks everyone for help. Really appreciate everyone's help out here. HT was disabled in BIOS. Once it was enabled, task manager and intel utility both behaved as expected. Thanks so much again.
Can someone redirect me to dvdshrink related forum, main task I use this computer for home dvd creation and sometimes backing up.
Recently I noticed that there is a significant performance drop (with and w/o HT enabling) in dvdshrink's performance. dvd backup use to take 20-25 mins and now it takes almost an hour. I check all the options (there are very few, actually) and none of them are altered.
Is there any way I can take HT's advantage to improve multitasking/dvdshrink's performance.
Thanks again for all the help. With best regards - zanand.
PS: computer is 512mb, 3.0GHz, 533Mhz FSB, (60g and 160g added).

 

[dawks]

Originally posted by: zanand
Hello..thanks everyone for help. Really appreciate everyone's help out here. HT was disabled in BIOS. Once it was enabled, task manager and intel utility both behaved as expected. Thanks so much again.
Can someone redirect me to dvdshrink related forum, main task I use this computer for home dvd creation and sometimes backing up.
Recently I noticed that there is a significant performance drop (with and w/o HT enabling) in dvdshrink's performance. dvd backup use to take 20-25 mins and now it takes almost an hour. I check all the options (there are very few, actually) and none of them are altered.
Is there any way I can take HT's advantage to improve multitasking/dvdshrink's performance.
Thanks again for all the help. With best regards - zanand.
PS: computer is 512mb, 3.0GHz, 533Mhz FSB, (60g and 160g added).

You could try asking in the software forum. HT technology is pretty cool, but it works well only with certain types of work. In some cases having HT enabled can actually hurt performance. Im not sure if this is one of those cases but it could be.

Did the slowdown in DVDShrink occur before or after enabling HT? 😀

 

[zanand]

Thanks for the info. I posted it in there. (someone had similar thread)
Do we have any website for HT supported software etc..? Or if what options are configurable on each operating system. As such I am right now on xphome.

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: zanand
Recently I noticed that there is a significant performance drop (with and w/o HT enabling) in dvdshrink's performance. dvd backup use to take 20-25 mins and now it takes almost an hour. I check all the options (there are very few, actually) and none of them are altered.

Perhaps you DVD drive is slow in ripping, or ripping longer dual-layer movies that are slower to read? HT should improve DVD Shrink performance by about 25%.

Originally posted by: zanand
Thanks for the info. I posted it in there. (someone had similar thread)
Do we have any website for HT supported software etc..? Or if what options are configurable on each operating system. As such I am right now on xphome.

Here's an interesting thread which has some numbers:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...;keyword1=multitasking
Basically, HT has little to no impact on single-threaded performance and on a P4 system, offers performance increase of 15-30% (occasionally less, occasionally more) whenever two or more CPU intensive threads or apps are running simultaneously. There's really not much tweaking you can do on XP Home, HT is running about as good as it can.