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Holy Hell.. Teacher cuts off student hair for incorrectly singing National Anthem..

This is better titled teacher suffers psychotic episode in front of class. Apparently it happened twice before where she has had a manic episode at the school in the last year or so.
 
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I always had a problem with forced patriotism and mental conditioning. Both in equal measures. If you're asking me to say the pledge of allegiance, that's one thing, if you're telling me I HAVE to say it, then there's going to be a discussion . Pretty sure I went to the principals office regarding this on more than one occasion.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
I always had a problem with forced patriotism and mental conditioning. Both in equal measures. If you're asking me to say the pledge of allegiance, that's one thing, if you're telling me I HAVE to say it, then there's going to be a discussion . Pretty sure I went to the principals office regarding this on more than one occasion.
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How do you deal with the claim many would make, I think, that you got to go to school because a lot of folk with forced patriotism and mental conditioning laid down their lives for your freedom?
 
Meh, we still had duck and cover when I was in school with civil defense drills. Everyone at least knew someone with a bomb shelter and we had John Birch. A teacher cutting a students hair would have been a minor blip.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
This is better titled teacher suffers psychotic episode in front of class. Apparently it happened twice before where she has had a manic episode at the school in the last year or so.
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There are certain ethical bounds here that sometimes I follow without really appreciating a reason they are important in a particular case. Suffice it to say the news has become less WTF and more tragic to me since I've become a psychiatrist.
 
Moonbeam said:
How do you deal with the claim many would make, I think, that you got to go to school because a lot of folk with forced patriotism and mental conditioning laid down their lives for your freedom?
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I'd accurately claim they were wrong to force it on me or anyone. My dad fought in WWII, and had my back when I got in trouble for this. And if he thought I was in the wrong, there'd be no hesitation to make me aware of it.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
This is better titled teacher suffers psychotic episode in front of class. Apparently it happened twice before where she has had a manic episode at the school in the last year or so.
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So she's had multiple manic attacks and still teaches? That sounds fantastic. Maybe they should have gotten her the help she needed instead of patching her up and putting her back in the game.
Also, we, as a nation need to stop stigmatizing mental health issues. It's not a sign of weakness, in any sense of the word.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
So she's had multiple manic attacks and still teaches? That sounds fantastic. Maybe they should have gotten her the help she needed instead of patching her up and putting her back in the game.
Also, we, as a nation need to stop stigmatizing mental health issues. It's not a sign of weakness, in any sense of the word.
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I'd say in this woman's case it's a sign of danger to others.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
So she's had multiple manic attacks and still teaches? That sounds fantastic. Maybe they should have gotten her the help she needed instead of patching her up and putting her back in the game.
Also, we, as a nation need to stop stigmatizing mental health issues. It's not a sign of weakness, in any sense of the word.
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There's an ideal society out there that recognizes mental illness and doesn't devalue people who have it, and those people don't feel shame as a result. In that society, people aren't banished from holding professional licenses of various sorts simply for having an illness, and declaring the problem on a job application doesn't immediately disqualify you. In that society experiencing symptoms doesn't get you exposed on the internet and thrown in prison.

That society exists in Candyland or Narnia someplace. I think we can do better than we do now, though.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
I'd accurately claim they were wrong to force it on me or anyone. My dad fought in WWII, and had my back when I got in trouble for this. And if he thought I was in the wrong, there'd be no hesitation to make me aware of it.
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I could not have hoped for a better answer. I can remember a time when the split in the country over the Veit Nam war was a more contemporaneously hot issue than today and many a draft resister had families who posed that question. I still wonder if there was any way back from the emotional toll such young men had to face. And then when the mood of the country changed we read that a lot of those who went and survived were spit on.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
This is better titled teacher suffers psychotic episode in front of class. Apparently it happened twice before where she has had a manic episode at the school in the last year or so.
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Actually that raises a question I've had personal reason to wonder about on occasion. While being sensitive to and understanding of people with mental health issues is important (and I've known many, many people in that situation), there's also the problem of what the hell you do when someone with power over you has such an issue.

Indeed, my experience is many people with diagnosed issues have them largely because of having spent time subject to the power of someone with an undiagnosed condition.

Edit - the result usually seems to involve a lot of built-up anger, that comes out in a variety of different ways. And the awful thing is, that anger is often kind-of justifiable.
 
Sunburn74 said:
Obviously a psychotic break. Acute manic episode or worse.
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That or she has a brain tumor. She should get checked out by a medical and psychiatric doctor. Her husband has no clue why she did it.

Gieszinger's husband told KFSN that the behavior shown in the cellphone video was completely out of character for his wife.

"She doesn't do stuff like that," he told KFSN reporter Brian Johnson. "It's not her. It's not who she is. So I don't know what was going on with her. I don't have any clue as to why she did that."
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