Holy crap: Trump might be a republican I would vote for (INCOME INEQUALITY)

[peonyu]

Ill vote for him if he is nominated. If hes not nominated I [like MANY independents im sure] probably wont vote at all this election. Hillary is a liar, and if Trump is not nominated it may be Jeb Bush, and that guy doesnt have a chance in hell of winning. Actually the only Republican who has a chance is Trump imo, the Dems can put shit in a box and it will win over anyone who is not Trump pretty much. The other candidates [minus Ben Carson who actually is interesting] sound like robots parroting the party line. The Republican party seems to hate Trump though, because he is not towing their line and kissing their [the old Senate Republicans] ass by being a yes-man for them. I also think the man who asked the "Obama-Muslim" question that the media is trying to make go viral right now was a plant, who was paid for by one of his Republican rivals. The Republican party just wants him to GO AWAY [and if he does they will lose yet another election, people want honesty for a change and not robot-yes-mans].

 

[werepossum]

I couldn't agree more. The immigrants who are legally migrating into America could give a rats ass when it comes to inequality. They are only concerned with making bank. Working 12-16 hours a day. The rest of us are worried about getting frekin weekends off. "Oh, but I can't work more than 40 hours. I'll miss The Walking Dead."

Maybe it's because I've had the chance to travel and actually live in other parts of the world. I've come to really appreciate my country. America is still an amazing place to live in. There are more millionaires made here than any other country.

I've talked with immigrants who have opened their own businees. Many are very successful. Why can someone who can barely speak English do so well in America, while many native born Americans are having such a difficult time. It's because they hustle. They will do what it takes to be successful. They aren't wasting energy on trivial matters like income inequality, and they aren't spending their hours watching Netflix and playing games on their PS4. We should all take a page from their work ethic.

Damned well said. Sometimes we forget that in spite of everything we dislike, America is still the most amazing, most desirable nation.

for years, the Republicans have built part of their base on lower/middle working class whites in the South and Midwest who feel they are being left behind in this economy and that "others" are taking from them while they and their families are falling further behind. That is one prong of the Republican base (the other two being religious/social conservatives and establishment country club/wall street types). Santorum and others such as Huckabee have tried to rally this part of the Republican base by running on a more populist theme but they can never get traction because the establishment/Wall Street Journal types where the bulk of the campaign money comes from would never fund them. Trump can run on a populist message and upend the establishment because he will not need their money to fund a campaign. We will see if that is enough as the media is itching to write the downfall of Trump. They have repeatedly proclaimed his demise and have so far been wrong each time.

Or perhaps Santorum and Huckabee never get traction because they are SJWs just like the proggies, with an even more unpleasant agenda but the same "behave, speak and think as you are told" mentality.

Ill vote for him if he is nominated. If hes not nominated I [like MANY independents im sure] probably wont vote at all this election. Hillary is a liar, and if Trump is not nominated it may be Jeb Bush, and that guy doesnt have a chance in hell of winning. Actually the only Republican who has a chance is Trump imo, the Dems can put shit in a box and it will win over anyone who is not Trump pretty much. The other candidates [minus Ben Carson who actually is interesting] sound like robots parroting the party line. The Republican party seems to hate Trump though, because he is not towing their line and kissing their [the old Senate Republicans] ass by being a yes-man for them. I also think the man who asked the "Obama-Muslim" question that the media is trying to make go viral right now was a plant, who was paid for by one of his Republican rivals. The Republican party just wants him to GO AWAY [and if he does they will lose yet another election, people want honesty for a change and not robot-yes-mans].

I could vote for Carson in a heartbeat if I were convinced he wouldn't devolve into a conservative SJW waging a senseless war on homosexuals. The only Pubbies politician I could vote for is Kasich. Trump . . . I like the populism, I just remain unconvinced it isn't Trumpism in disguise.

However, if the GOP actually believed what it spouts, it's nominee would be Gary Johnson.

 

[flexy]

Voting for Trump as someone who is going against income equality is like choosing Sasha Grey as the spokesperson for promoting sexual abstinence.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ill vote for him if he is nominated. If hes not nominated I [like MANY independents im sure] probably wont vote at all this election. Hillary is a liar, and if Trump is not nominated it may be Jeb Bush, and that guy doesnt have a chance in hell of winning. Actually the only Republican who has a chance is Trump imo, the Dems can put shit in a box and it will win over anyone who is not Trump pretty much. The other candidates [minus Ben Carson who actually is interesting] sound like robots parroting the party line. The Republican party seems to hate Trump though, because he is not towing their line and kissing their [the old Senate Republicans] ass by being a yes-man for them. I also think the man who asked the "Obama-Muslim" question that the media is trying to make go viral right now was a plant, who was paid for by one of his Republican rivals. The Republican party just wants him to GO AWAY [and if he does they will lose yet another election, people want honesty for a change and not robot-yes-mans].

Heh. You're not one to look closely at the company you keep, Huh? The guy expressed what are very much opinions of the Repub base & Trump pandered right to them.

Shee-it, Sherlock- don't pretend that you're not adulating the Birther in Chief, either.

 

[Jhhnn]

Voting for Trump as someone who is going against income equality is like choosing Sasha Grey as the spokesperson for promoting sexual abstinence.

Just because Trump is willing to throw hedge fund managers under the bus doesn't mean he's really for meaningful tax reform. It just means he's an opportunist, pretty much the story of his life.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Voting for Trump as someone who is going against income equality is like choosing Sasha Grey as the spokesperson for promoting sexual abstinence.

Look at the good news. He's a Republican and he's talking about it

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Just because Trump is willing to throw hedge fund managers under the bus doesn't mean he's really for meaningful tax reform. It just means he's an opportunist, pretty much the story of his life.

Other than the Dem from Vermont, what other choice do we have? Hillary won't do shit for "us".

 

[stormkroe]

What about doing away with income taxes altogether and changing to a graduated sales tax? You pay taxes on how much you buy, like 0-$50k/yr is 15%, 50-100k 18%, (obviously with more valid numbers).
That way you couldn't hide capital. No write-offs, it gets taxed again when you sell it and maybe the double/triple dipping would allow the rate to be lower than the monolithic tax it replaced.
Just a spit-ball.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What about doing away with income taxes altogether and changing to a graduated sales tax? You pay taxes on how much you buy, like 0-$50k/yr is 15%, 50-100k 18%, (obviously with more valid numbers).
That way you couldn't hide capital. No write-offs, it gets taxed again when you sell it and maybe the double/triple dipping would allow the rate to be lower than the monolithic tax it replaced.
Just a spit-ball.

Who and how us everything you buy going to be tracked? Where will this data be stored? How will cash transactions be tracked?

 

[fskimospy]

Other than the Dem from Vermont, what other choice do we have? Hillary won't do shit for "us".

Hillary opposes the carried interest loophole too, and has opposed it long before Trump ever said anything.

There is no part of the tax code that I am aware of where Trump's stated preference is more beneficial to 'us' than Hillary's stated preference. Can you give an example?

And if your argument boils down to 'but Hillary is just lying!' then I would remind you that most things Trump is saying now are way different than his stated preferences even a few years back. Either he had a total come to Jesus moment or, more likely, he's a liar.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Hillary opposes the carried interest loophole too, and has opposed it long before Trump ever said anything.

There is no part of the tax code that I am aware of where Trump's stated preference is more beneficial to 'us' than Hillary's stated preference. Can you give an example?

And if your argument boils down to 'but Hillary is just lying!' then I would remind you that most things Trump is saying now are way different than his stated preferences even a few years back. Either he had a total come to Jesus moment or, more likely, he's a liar.

I have no argument. I think the one thing trump can do is ignore special interests. He'll just say this is wrong and we are fixing it. I view Hillary as someone that will collapse to the desires of special interests. More so than Trump or the guy from VT.

 

[stormkroe]

Who and how us everything you buy going to be tracked? Where will this data be stored? How will cash transactions be tracked?

Well, I'm not prepared to flesh this out to a polished state, spitballs being rough and what-not. You could set up a personal sales tax number (use your ssn) that you would give at the point of sale. Make the seller responsible for the tax for missing inventory as incentive to obtain the info. It would be no more hassle than a debt card, and it's somewhat similar to what I have to do with GST here in Canadia for my company. The tracking and storing would be no different than any other tax system. I have GST info down to a single wirenut I bought 5 years ago.
Again, this is just a ball. A ball of spit.

 

[OverVolt]

Oh please you guys are such a bunch of morons.

Look at what all the economic intervention has done thus far for economic inequality and you guys call for even more.

 

[OverVolt]

What about doing away with income taxes altogether and changing to a graduated sales tax? You pay taxes on how much you buy, like 0-$50k/yr is 15%, 50-100k 18%, (obviously with more valid numbers).
That way you couldn't hide capital. No write-offs, it gets taxed again when you sell it and maybe the double/triple dipping would allow the rate to be lower than the monolithic tax it replaced.
Just a spit-ball.

I really doubt they are willing to make drastic changes to the tax code because how would it be possible to predict tax income, spending patterns, and thus, GDP/Debt ratios, credit risk, etc.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Other than the Dem from Vermont, what other choice do we have? Hillary won't do shit for "us".

Yes, if there's anyone I can stand behind for doing shit for "us" it's the billionaire who's repeatedly taken advantage of loopholes not available to the poor (bankrupting a casino? I'LL TAKE FOUR) to earn more money than the average middle class family earns in several thousand lifetimes. Truly a candidate for the people.

 

[MongGrel]

Voting for Trump as someone who is going against income equality is like choosing Sasha Grey as the spokesperson for promoting sexual abstinence.

Just because Trump is willing to throw hedge fund managers under the bus doesn't mean he's really for meaningful tax reform. It just means he's an opportunist, pretty much the story of his life.

Yes, if there's anyone I can stand behind for doing shit for "us" it's the billionaire who's repeatedly taken advantage of loopholes not available to the poor (bankrupting a casino? I'LL TAKE FOUR) to earn more money than the average middle class family earns in several thousand lifetimes. Truly a candidate for the people.

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