Holy crap, TMobile did it. Binge On video streaming

cronos

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Let's do the net neutrality discussion here too, guys. I personally think this is most definitely that slippery slope path to the dark side, but damn if I'm not happy watching T-Mobile sticking it to AT&T and Verizon over and over and over.
 

quikah

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Did google do something to John Legere or something? No youtube is a big omision.
 

paperwastage

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it's only 480p+... so yeah, enjoy your free unlimited 0.5-5mbps video

Tmobile says youtube isn't available because of technical issues... hopefully it'll get sorted out
 

core2slow

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In a way, i know this is a bad move as it set precedence for things to come.

Conversely, as a Tmo customer, i'm glad they're sticking it to AT&T and VZW.
 

Zodiark1593

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3 days later it gets retracted as people finally find a use for outputting phone displays to their hdtvs.
 

paperwastage

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So is that worse than not having the option at all?

Come on, this is FREE streaming.

i have unlimited t-mobile... so don't really affect me (other than the option of video not counting towards 23GB deprioritization limit)
 

lopri

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Net neutrality is not affected as far as I can tell? T-Mobile is on record saying the door is open for every content provider. An "all-comers" policy is plainly nondiscriminatory. And "video provider" is a sufficiently general category that everyone understands.
 

wanderer27

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Net neutrality is not affected as far as I can tell? T-Mobile is on record saying the door is open for every content provider. An "all-comers" policy is plainly nondiscriminatory. And "video provider" is a sufficiently general category that everyone understands.

You are correct.

It was stated that Youtube wasn't part of the launch because this was a short timeline project.

Legere said this is open to any video streaming service that wants to make use of it - there are just Protocol interface requirements to get this to work.
He said if Youtube asks him, his answer is already yes.

I'm sure TMO is working in the background with a lot of Providers. It just like the Music streaming - they launched with a handful and now provide probably 90% or so of the Providers.

You can turn the App on or off, it's your choice.
On, you get and optimized 480p+ stream and no Data usage on your account.
Off, you get whatever xxxxp you can pull down, but it will be counted against your Data.

There's no Throttling, Shaping, or QoS being used here.

I've seen the 480p+ (I use + because there's some cool optimization going on) :

Same Movie scenes/ same Phone Model . . . I picked the 480p+ as the HD stream.

Too me it looked better, and really, on Smartphone screen 480p DPI is really sharp.



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wanderer27

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I can't part take since i'm on the 2.5gb promo plan :(

Data Buckets have been doubled for free as well, that kind of got buried in the topic.

3GB (now 6GB) and up get this free.

2.5GB ?
Odd plan size, you may want to check into it if you're on a Family plan or something like that.

Family plans are also being redone & repriced.


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isekii

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Data Buckets have been doubled for free as well, that kind of got buried in the topic.

3GB (now 6GB) and up get this free.

2.5GB ?
Odd plan size, you may want to check into it if you're on a Family plan or something like that.

Family plans are also being redone & repriced.


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I am on a family plan. 6 x 2.5gb @ 120 + $10 family international landline calling/mobile.
4 x 10gb @ 120 does not qualify either.
I doubt i'll switch my plan. The only people that really use data are 4 out of 6 lines.
 

wanderer27

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EightySix Four

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Net neutrality is not affected as far as I can tell? T-Mobile is on record saying the door is open for every content provider. An "all-comers" policy is plainly nondiscriminatory. And "video provider" is a sufficiently general category that everyone understands.

Have to disagree here: just because it is open to all video providers does not mean it is not a net neutrality issue. Central to net neutrality is the idea that data is data no matter where it comes from - intentionally accelerating, slowing down, capping, or uncapping some data but not all data creates tiers. While I don't think this is done with ill intent, it sets an uncomfortable precedent.
 

paperwastage

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Have to disagree here: just because it is open to all video providers does not mean it is not a net neutrality issue. Central to net neutrality is the idea that data is data no matter where it comes from - intentionally accelerating, slowing down, capping, or uncapping some data but not all data creates tiers. While I don't think this is done with ill intent, it sets an uncomfortable precedent.

well then, VoLTE technically is a violation of net neutrality :D

not arguing with you... this is pro-consumer, but raises questions about net neutrality
 

EightySix Four

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well then, VoLTE technically is a violation of net neutrality :D

not arguing with you... this is pro-consumer, but raises questions about net neutrality

I agree actually, SMS and MMS should be treated as data as well, although there is an argument to be made that they aren't necessarily interfacing with content providers on the Internet and thus they aren't a net neutrality issue.