holy crap, school stabbing in japan, 4 children dead. [update: 8 killed]

[classy]

<< Yes, we need to implement knife locks, safes, and waiting periods on them! >>


You are a real dumb@ss. These children have died in a terrible way and you turn this into somekind of joke.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Nevermind. Pointless.

 

[pen^2]

edit: wrong place to pick a fight, my appologies

 

[gnoymyguy]

WTF is the reason for the lighthearted comments? I can understand what FBR's basic point is, that hearing all the different tragedies can begin to make you numb, but why the humour?

Anyway, the most disturbing thing about this is the way it is reported on the local news(Hong Kong) but do realise it happens elsewhere. Is this incident given headline priority? No. The bad weather locally is supposedly more important. Happens every time. This incident only made it halfway through the half hour news report.

It seriously pisses me off when the news editors deem some local events more significant than people being murdered/killed elsewhere in the world, EXCEPT if there is a person of the local nationality involved. 300 people could get killed but won't make the headlines Unless there is at least ONE local involved. I guess this is a reflection of society, that people do not feel (as)emotionally involved if there is no relation to your own country-the idea that we are close if we are of the same nationality, but not close as humans-some nationalistic/racist barriers seem apparent

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

I edited because I don't fault you for thinking I responded directly to you. MY FAULT. It certainly appears that way... but I was in essence replying to ALL the expression of 'shock' in this thread. If you will notice I didn't directly quote you. Again sorry for the misunderstanding.

You belong to conspiracy theory clubs by any chance?

 

[pen^2]

no, i am not aware of those organizations...
i am usually soft spoken, but i tend to get emotional at times. tragedy is a tragedy, dont you tell me you dont give a damn about those who have been stabbed... my understanding is it is quite impersonal to you since there is 0 connection between them and you as you described. my idea of 'judgemental' was you assuming i must share the same values or experiences as yours so i must be overreacting to mention 'shocked'. sure, its only 8 kids dead, but i truly felt shocked, i wont deny.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

<< no, i am not aware of those organizations...
i am usually soft spoken, but i tend to get emotional at times. tragedy is a tragedy, dont you tell me you dont give a damn about those who have been stabbed... my understanding is it is quite impersonal to you since there is 0 connection between them and you as you described. my idea of 'judgemental' was you assuming i must share the same values or experiences as yours so i must be overreacting to mention 'shocked'. sure, its only 8 kids dead, but i truly felt shocked, i wont deny. >>



I completely understand BrotherMan. Absolutely NO NEED to ever apologise or explain your emotions to anyone. What YOU feel is what YOU feel and you have every right (and reason) to feel that way.
Perhaps a part of me id quite disappointed in myself that I have become so numb. But I am NOT a strong person emotionally. I must think this way to protect myself.

Can I ask your age? Perhaps it has something to do with that. I am not old... I am 26... but I am old enough to have been through the 'start' of all this madness (ie killing children in schools). And I guess that I just cant grieve for them individually anymore. I do hurt for the newest generation(s) as a whole. Things dont seem to be getting better.

 

[pen^2]

actually, i agree with what you posted earlier, we all live blind to so many aspects of the society... it must be the self defense mechanism of human mind, unless otherwise you would lose all your sleep sympathizing with everything that could occur on any given day...

i am still a 20 yr old youngster with a whole lot of life ahead in fact, if age got to do with it, its probably ME not you...
as for being numb to this mad, isnt it just sad now we tend to dismiss such demonic deeds as just another school violence.


cant just all get along? i feel bad for yelling

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

<< actually, i agree with what you posted earlier, we all live blind to so many aspects of the society... it must be the self defense mechanism of human mind, unless otherwise you would lose all your sleep sympathizing with everything that could occur on any given day...

i am still a 20 yr old youngster with a whole lot of life ahead in fact, if age got to do with it, its probably ME not you...
as for being numb to this mad, isnt it just sad now we tend to dismiss such demonic deeds as just another school violence.


cant just all get along? i feel bad for yelling >>



Yup. We can get along just fine hehe
awww.. how sweet... everything turned out fine... kinda makes me sick. j/k

Nah you didnt yell. You have a viewpoint. You expressed it strongly. To use an Aussie phrase 'Good on ya'.. nothing wrong with that.

Keep keeping on BrotherMan...

 

[Red Dawn]

Abusedone

<< As much as some anti-gun folks here like to exaggerate, guns do NOT make mass killings as easy as they'd like people to think. >>

I'm sure if it was one of your little bastards who had their brains dripping out their ears you'd feel different.

 

[happykitten]

 

[Amused]

<< Abusedone

<< As much as some anti-gun folks here like to exaggerate, guns do NOT make mass killings as easy as they'd like people to think. >>

I'm sure if it was one of your little bastards who had their brains dripping out their ears you'd feel different. >>


Why would the tragic death of a child of mine change my mind about the right to own firearms?

Sorry, but I cannot, no matter how hard I try, make the illogical jump from blaming the shooter, to blaming the gun.

 

[cybertainment]

there are some people in that world that have some serious problems.......

 

[Aihyah]

oh of course you can't blame the gun... it would make it easier. The better the killing machine, the more effective the killer.. duh. i'm sure if the guy had land mines and grenades the death count would be even higher. hell, add a tank and some f-16s. no wait.. lets just sell nukes to people... we can't blame the nuke if it kills thousands of people.

 

[bret]

america uses guns, japan uses knives

 

[Amused]

<< oh of course you can't blame the gun... it would make it easier. The better the killing machine, the more effective the killer.. duh. i'm sure if the guy had land mines and grenades the death count would be even higher. hell, add a tank and some f-16s. no wait.. lets just sell nukes to people... we can't blame the nuke if it kills thousands of people. >>



Umn, yeah, going to ridiculous extremes helps your case, huh?

None of those items are effective personal defense weapons, and none are standard issue to infantry men. The reason behind the second amendment is to have an armed populace with the equivlent of what standard infantry men would have. (No, grenades and land mines are NOT standard issue) To create a miltia among the whole people, to be called up in times of war.

We have a right to keep and bear arms. Don't like it? Amend the Constitution.

 

[Aihyah]

going to extreme does work because the same arguement applies perfectly. A nuke is just an object, it doesn't mean to harm anyone. Nukes don't hurt people, people hurt people. can a nuke be defensive? against a nation that is hostile to you .. yes.

as for what is issued to infantry men.. ok bring it to that level.. military grade infantry weapons are still rather powerful.. have longer clips etc. They don't hurt people either, but give a mob of people .. or even one person a choice between a semi and a knife.. not even close.

We have a right to keep and bear arms. Don't like it? Amend the Constitution.


oh right.. read only half of what it says while your at it. It says well regulated militias.. not just any yahoo.

and yes the constitution should change over time.. remember that blacks were 3/5ths a person? amend as the society advances.

 

[cmdavid]

guns are illegal in japan...the cops over there dont even carry guns... the only people w/ guns are members of the Yakuza, an organized crime group...

and guns do make a difference.. i lived in japan for 15 years and in those 15 years there were maybe about 10-12 recorded murders.... believe me... my parents took so many precautions after i lived in japan for 15 years... to moving here because of the safety differences...

all my sympathy and deepest regards to those kids, their families, and the entire country....

the situation over there is probably in worse turmoil than if a situation like that happened over here just because it is such a tragedy and a shock in japan..and the people there have never had to deal with this type of situation.... not that it wouldnt be the same over here...

i hope i didnt offend anybody at all with this.. it was not my intention...