Holy Crap! Did you know there are "Delid Tools" out there?

[ReignQuake]

The Delid Die Mate and the Delid Die Mate Extreme are two different models and the Extreme version is not available yet. I have not seen any announcement from CaseKing or Der8auer about pricing.

Really? that makes sense thanks for the correction. I was thinking about investing so I could help people just for postage but there aren't going to be enough people to justify it. Then the liability if the delidding process goes wrong...

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

Really? that makes sense thanks for the correction. I was thinking about investing so I could help people just for postage but there aren't going to be enough people to justify it. Then the liability if the delidding process goes wrong...

I'm super tempted to get one when it comes out, but it will likely render the tuning plan I bought for my 5960x useless, meaning I wasted $35. (There are mixed reports of intel replacing delidded processors, technically its voided by the warranty but I guess it depends on who processes your chip.)

A delid die mate extreme sharing program would be a cool idea, but why not charge a flat rate of like $15, which would cover shipping and eventually pay for the cost of the device? Obviously you would need some sort of disclaimer to make sure if someone borks it, they don't try to hold you accountable.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Don't believe what Guru3D parroted from OCDrift. There is no such thing as a metal epoxy,

Mmm well okay. I was thinking the stuff seen poking around the edge of the split die (ouch) looked a little odd for indium solder, though. It really did look like some kind of metalized epoxy or . . . yeah anyway. Not gonna say you're wrong, it just looked odd to me, that's all.

That vid linked above by XabanakFanatik shows a die with what is clearly solder, so yeah. No "metalized epoxy" there.

I'm familiar with the black epoxy used to glue down the IHS. I've sliced through some of that on my 7700k. Interesting stuff.

Apparently it's better to use shearing force to remove the solder from the cpu, rather than shimming and prying it open . Many wire cutting tools, (scissors) use shearing stress after all.

Yeah I wouldn't want to do that to a 5960x either.

 

[JimmiG]

This is why you buy a CPU with a soldered IHS

Who says you can't have choices in a world of no competition.

You can buy yesteryear's technology for twice the price, with soldered IHS
-OR-
You can buy current technology with fewer cores and cheap thermal paste

Hopefully my next CPU won't require de-lidding, and won't have Intel printed on it.

 

[Smoblikat]

I used a free razor I borrowed from work. Scratched some of the green stuff off the PCB and left exposed copper. The chip still runs like a champ, though I think my IHS is slightly offset and not on straight, temps are usually pretty low but every once and a while one or two cores jump up like 30C for a few seconds then calm back down.

 

[der8auer]

hey guys. I just randomly came across this thread and would like to clarify some things about my delid tools.

Normal delid tool is currently manufactured by EK Water Blocks and sold by caseking.de.

The Delid Die Mate Extreme was a side project just to see if it's possible and it turned out to be working. I tried 2 x 5960X and 6 x 6950X so far. All CPUs are still alive. However there is still quite some risk left to knock off caps around the die. On my first 5960X I removed almost all caps The caps are just additional input caps for the FIVR tho so it's not really a problem if you remove them. Similar to caps around the 4770K/4790K.
I probably won't sell it to public because I don't want people to damage their chip. Even if there is a small risk left, I'm not willing to riks my reputation for it.

I have 18 tools and if you want one I can arrange it but as I said: Everything on your own risk.

 

[Hail The Brain Slug]

hey guys. I just randomly came across this thread and would like to clarify some things about my delid tools.

Normal delid tool is currently manufactured by EK Water Blocks and sold by caseking.de.

The Delid Die Mate Extreme was a side project just to see if it's possible and it turned out to be working. I tried 2 x 5960X and 6 x 6950X so far. All CPUs are still alive. However there is still quite some risk left to knock off caps around the die. On my first 5960X I removed almost all caps The caps are just additional input caps for the FIVR tho so it's not really a problem if you remove them. Similar to caps around the 4770K/4790K.
I probably won't sell it to public because I don't want people to damage their chip. Even if there is a small risk left, I'm not willing to riks my reputation for it.

I have 18 tools and if you want one I can arrange it but as I said: Everything on your own risk.

Thank you for chiming in!

I'm very curious, did you see similar gains to your delidding video on all the E series CPUs that you've done, or has it been variable depending on the chip?

I'm interested to know if the soldering process is typically very consistent or if it has inconsistencies like the thermal paste heatspreaders Intel puts on the mainstream parts.

 

[der8auer]

The temperature gain is very similar. I think the main influence is the tolerance in IHS height and also how good you can remove the glue. Eventually you should grind the IHS to make sure it has a perfect contact the the die. But 7-10°C is possible on all E-chips.

I also tried direct mount on 5950X and 6950X but it seems impossible to apply enough mounting pressure. There are always some memory channels missing which indicates bad contact to the socket pins.

The soldering process seems pretty consistent.