Holly *!%& this thing runs like a 286!

[Locut0s]

So I agreed to help fix a few issues with my Grandfathers laptop. Well I have it at home right now and the thing runs like a fucking snail! Granted it's no Ferrari, the thing runs on an AMD Turion 2.0 Ghz CPU with 512 MB of RAM and ..... (wait a sec I just typed that as I'm looking at the specs, 512MB of RAM!!!).. and it's running winXP with a crap load of TSR apps running in the background

Time for some spring cleaning.

He also has like 2 or 3 Hotmail accounts in addition to his ISP account. I'm going to give him a Gmail account and forward everything to that.

 

[jlee]

needz moar rams.

 

[TruePaige]

TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: JLee
needz moar rams.

No kidding. Not likely to happen though.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: TruePaige
TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

Yeah that's not really proper lingo as those apply to DOS era apps. I guess you would call them what,... system trap applications?

 

[lxskllr]

512mb is fine for an email/web surfer. Clean out the cruft and it should be good.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: TruePaige
TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

shit.. is there anything nowadays besides virii and trojans (other than antivirus proggies) that run as TSRs?

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: TruePaige
TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

shit.. is there anything nowadays besides virii and trojans (other than antivirus proggies) that run as TSRs?

In my experience? If you are computer illiterate your system tray quickly fills up with tens of apps just wasting memory and CPU cycles. Usually these are apps meant to augment the launching of the parent application. Things like Adobe PDF reader keeps 1/2 the app loaded all the time to reduce load times. Quicktime does something similar. 1/2 the photo sharing applications out there install TSRs so that they can detect when you plug in your digicam. ACER, ASUS, and other laptop manufacturers install their own slew of "helper" apps to brand the windows desktop with an ASUS bar or whatever. It goes on and on and on.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: TruePaige
TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

shit.. is there anything nowadays besides virii and trojans (other than antivirus proggies) that run as TSRs?

I hate most everything that does that, so..in my opinion the same thing.

I can't imagine a huge chunk of the population needs it on most programs.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: TruePaige
TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

shit.. is there anything nowadays besides virii and trojans (other than antivirus proggies) that run as TSRs?

In my experience? If you are computer illiterate your system tray quickly fills up with tens of apps just wasting memory and CPU cycles. Usually these are apps meant to augment the launching of the parent application. Things like Adobe PDF reader keeps 1/2 the app loaded all the time to reduce load times. Quicktime does something similar. 1/2 the photo sharing applications out there install TSRs so that they can detect when you plug in your digicam. ACER, ASUS, and other laptop manufacturers install their own slew of "helper" apps to brand the windows desktop with an ASUS bar or whatever. It goes on and on and on.

Exactly. Before you know it you have messengers, music services, camera and video camera helper apps, webcam helper apps, notification bars, weather apps, indexing apps, Adobe updates, Java updates, and that is just a few of the common ones.

Can take a perfectly capable computer and slow it to a crawl.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: TruePaige
TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

shit.. is there anything nowadays besides virii and trojans (other than antivirus proggies) that run as TSRs?

In my experience? If you are computer illiterate your system tray quickly fills up with tens of apps just wasting memory and CPU cycles. Usually these are apps meant to augment the launching of the parent application. Things like Adobe PDF reader keeps 1/2 the app loaded all the time to reduce load times. Quicktime does something similar. 1/2 the photo sharing applications out there install TSRs so that they can detect when you plug in your digicam. ACER, ASUS, and other laptop manufacturers install their own slew of "helper" apps to brand the windows desktop with an ASUS bar or whatever. It goes on and on and on.

I hate this SO MUCH. Everytime I install a new program, I always go into msconfig and check that stupid stuff isn't starting up. I can't believe that people can tolerate like 15 icons in their system tray.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: TruePaige
TSR = Terminate but Stay Resident for any non-techies who come in.

shit.. is there anything nowadays besides virii and trojans (other than antivirus proggies) that run as TSRs?

In my experience? If you are computer illiterate your system tray quickly fills up with tens of apps just wasting memory and CPU cycles. Usually these are apps meant to augment the launching of the parent application. Things like Adobe PDF reader keeps 1/2 the app loaded all the time to reduce load times. Quicktime does something similar. 1/2 the photo sharing applications out there install TSRs so that they can detect when you plug in your digicam. ACER, ASUS, and other laptop manufacturers install their own slew of "helper" apps to brand the windows desktop with an ASUS bar or whatever. It goes on and on and on.

i consider those to be like trojans just as annoying, and sometimes more of a pain to remove

 

[Locut0s]

Here this gives you an idea of what I'm dealing with. And that's just what's in the normal Run section of the registry. There are plenty of other apps set to start through other reg keys elsewhere.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
Here this gives you an idea of what I'm dealing with. And that's just what's in the normal Run section of the registry. There are plenty of other apps set to start through other reg keys elsewhere.

See 1/2 this shit has to do with propitiatory Acer stuff like their own power management features and other tools. My Grandfather keeps his laptop plugged in 100% of the time and uses it as a desktop replacement. 95% of this stuff should go.

This crap is really annoying! I mean if you are going to sell a laptop with only 512mb of RAM on it and run WinXP then for gods sake don't add extra layers of propitiatory apps that only duplicate features already in Windows!

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: Locut0s
Here this gives you an idea of what I'm dealing with. And that's just what's in the normal Run section of the registry. There are plenty of other apps set to start through other reg keys elsewhere.

See 1/2 this shit has to do with propitiatory Acer stuff like their own power management features and other tools. My Grandfather keeps his laptop plugged in 100% of the time and uses it as a desktop replacement. 95% of this stuff should go.

This crap is really annoying! I mean if you are going to sell a laptop with only 512mb of RAM on it and run WinXP then for gods sake don't add extra layers of propitiatory apps that only duplicate features already in Windows!

It is common practice so that they can sell PC Optimization services at Best Buy for 30 bucks that involves them clicking them off in MSConfig while the PC manufacturer still gets revenue for pushing products at you.

edit: But I wouldn't expect you to understand that, you obviously just hate America.

 

[Lean L]

Mah haha, back when I had a single core processor I had no tray apps, I even disabled driver apps that weren't needed. Now, I have two physical processors both with two cores, I haven't been able to do much to this comp to make the bg processes notacible at all. I'be been running random apps when I game and notice no difference.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
Here this gives you an idea of what I'm dealing with. And that's just what's in the normal Run section of the registry. There are plenty of other apps set to start through other reg keys elsewhere.

Meh. Ive seen a lot worse.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: Locut0s
Here this gives you an idea of what I'm dealing with. And that's just what's in the normal Run section of the registry. There are plenty of other apps set to start through other reg keys elsewhere.

See 1/2 this shit has to do with propitiatory Acer stuff like their own power management features and other tools. My Grandfather keeps his laptop plugged in 100% of the time and uses it as a desktop replacement. 95% of this stuff should go.

This crap is really annoying! I mean if you are going to sell a laptop with only 512mb of RAM on it and run WinXP then for gods sake don't add extra layers of propitiatory apps that only duplicate features already in Windows!

How old is the laptop? 512 mb was plenty a couple of years ago under XP.

There is no reason not to upgrade it ram is dirt cheap. I did 512 mb -> 2048 mb for a friend for 30 bucks, but I'm sure you know that. Give your grandfather an early birthday/christmas present...

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
So I agreed to help fix a few issues with my Grandfathers laptop. Well I have it at home right now and the thing runs like a fucking snail! Granted it's no Ferrari, the thing runs on an AMD Turion 2.0 Ghz CPU with 512 MB of RAM and ..... (wait a sec I just typed that as I'm looking at the specs, 512MB of RAM!!!).. and it's running winXP with a crap load of TSR apps running in the background

Time for some spring cleaning.

He also has like 2 or 3 Hotmail accounts in addition to his ISP account. I'm going to give him a Gmail account and forward everything to that.

Good call, I bet all those Hotmails are really slowing down his PC..

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Locut0s
So I agreed to help fix a few issues with my Grandfathers laptop. Well I have it at home right now and the thing runs like a fucking snail! Granted it's no Ferrari, the thing runs on an AMD Turion 2.0 Ghz CPU with 512 MB of RAM and ..... (wait a sec I just typed that as I'm looking at the specs, 512MB of RAM!!!).. and it's running winXP with a crap load of TSR apps running in the background

Time for some spring cleaning.

He also has like 2 or 3 Hotmail accounts in addition to his ISP account. I'm going to give him a Gmail account and forward everything to that.

Good call, I bet all those Hotmails are really slowing down his PC..

Actually that's one of the original things I said I'd help him with. I only noticed the other issues when I actually got the laptop in hand.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
512mb is fine for an email/web surfer. Clean out the cruft and it should be good.

Barely, OS + a few web pages can pretty much top 512MB ram. So basically someone who does bills and sends a few e-mails (like grandparents!).

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Locut0s
So I agreed to help fix a few issues with my Grandfathers laptop. Well I have it at home right now and the thing runs like a fucking snail! Granted it's no Ferrari, the thing runs on an AMD Turion 2.0 Ghz CPU with 512 MB of RAM and ..... (wait a sec I just typed that as I'm looking at the specs, 512MB of RAM!!!).. and it's running winXP with a crap load of TSR apps running in the background

Time for some spring cleaning.

He also has like 2 or 3 Hotmail accounts in addition to his ISP account. I'm going to give him a Gmail account and forward everything to that.

Good call, I bet all those Hotmails are really slowing down his PC..

Actually that's one of the original things I said I'd help him with. I only noticed the other issues when I actually got the laptop in hand.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: lxskllr
512mb is fine for an email/web surfer. Clean out the cruft and it should be good.

Barely, OS + a few web pages can pretty much top 512MB ram. So basically someone who does bills and sends a few e-mails (like grandparents!).

Uh, no. My PC had 512 for the longest time, and I somehow managed to play HL2, Doom3, etc. In fact, only when WoW was becoming annoyingly slow in large cities did I bump up my RAM.

People seem to have short memories.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: lxskllr
512mb is fine for an email/web surfer. Clean out the cruft and it should be good.

Barely, OS + a few web pages can pretty much top 512MB ram. So basically someone who does bills and sends a few e-mails (like grandparents!).

Uh, no. My PC had 512 for the longest time, and I somehow managed to play HL2, Doom3, etc. In fact, only when WoW was becoming annoyingly slow in large cities did I bump up my RAM.

People seem to have short memories.

This. People's Perception of technology has become really short sighted. I ran XP just fine on 512 until I bumped it up to 2 3 months ago. I never had a problem opening firefox and managing a dozen tabs.

 

[shortylickens]

Whenever I'm bullied into fixing a friends computer, first thing I check is the lower right corner of the desktop. That tells me what kind of user they are. After that I check the Task Manager. Then the Add/Remove Programs list. I'm amazed at people who think they can download a thousand things and their system will work just fine. Of course, I'm one of those guys who remembers what it was like to manage EMS and XMS memory so Windows feels like a minor challenge to me.


Does the Apple OS limit how much shit you can have going at once?