Holden Commodore will come to the States

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: pnad

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: pnad
I'm sure Pontiac will make it ugly and overpriced just like the GTO.

I sure do love the Holden interiors though.

So what other 400hp car is there for ~32k?

And that 100hp is worth the 10grand premium over the Mustang GT?

The GT starts at 25K making it a difference of only 7K. Not only that but the GTO's do offer incentives and there is also room to haggle. So you could possible end up snatching one for well under 30k.

As always on Anandtech, it's not about the numbers. The ride quality with it's independant rear suspension and higher quality interior adds to the price. If you had experience with both then it would be very easy to spot.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Dear GM,

Please just bring it over and leave it the fvck alone, except for what's necessary to pass North American safety & emissions.

Love,

- M4H

/stamps
/mails

Dear Ford,

GM is bringing over Holdens. Can you please bring me a Ford Falcon XR6?

Love,

- M4H

/stamps
/mails

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: pnad

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: pnad
I'm sure Pontiac will make it ugly and overpriced just like the GTO.

I sure do love the Holden interiors though.

So what other 400hp car is there for ~32k?

And that 100hp is worth the 10grand premium over the Mustang GT?

The GT starts at 25K making it a difference of only 7K. Not only that but the GTO's do offer incentives and there is also room to haggle. So you could possible end up snatching one for well under 30k.

As always on Anandtech, it's not about the numbers. The ride quality with it's independant rear suspension and higher quality interior adds to the price. If you had experience with both then it would be very easy to spot.

that's part of the problem, there should have been a lower cost option for 26k-28k or so, in keeping with the spirit of the original GTO.

 

[TheSlamma]

The SSV concept was way better... oh well

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
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GM is bringing over Holdens. Can you please bring me a Ford Falcon XR6?
</snip>

Oh hell yeah!

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Dear GM,

Please just bring it over and leave it the fvck alone, except for what's necessary to pass North American safety & emissions.

Love,

- M4H

Dear MFH,

We are so sorry. As you are well aware. We, here at GM, are unable to comply with your requests. Sure, we'll bring it over..........but...........once we're done with it, it'll look almost exactly like a cross between a 1999 Chevy Malibu and 2001 Caprice Classic. We'll, obviously, integrate some Altezza tailights as we KNOW that's what the world wants these days and we'll also be introducing an entry-level version that includes full-wheel composite, (plastic) hubcaps including a half & half version of the GM/Holden logo extending from one valve stem to the other.......(yes, we're going over the top now w/ 2 valve stems per wheel in the name of higher performance!) When we get done with it Mr. MFH, it will be the envy of the entire world and we know........because we're GM!!!!!!!!!


ROTFLMAOPMPBBQLMNOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

 

[AdamK47]

Originally posted by: redgtxdi

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Dear GM,

Please just bring it over and leave it the fvck alone, except for what's necessary to pass North American safety & emissions.

Love,

- M4H

Dear MFH,

We are so sorry. As you are well aware. We, here at GM, are unable to comply with your requests. Sure, we'll bring it over..........but...........once we're done with it, it'll look almost exactly like a cross between a 1999 Chevy Malibu and 2001 Caprice Classic. We'll, obviously, integrate some Altezza tailights as we KNOW that's what the world wants these days and we'll also be introducing an entry-level version that includes full-wheel composite, (plastic) hubcaps including a half & half version of the GM/Holden logo extending from one valve stem to the other.......(yes, we're going over the top now w/ 2 valve stems per wheel in the name of higher performance!) When we get done with it Mr. MFH, it will be the envy of the entire world and we know........because we're GM!!!!!!!!!


ROTFLMAOPMPBBQLMNOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

It certainly won't be able to match the 1995 Geo Prism in terms of quality.

 

[redgtxdi]

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS

It certainly won't be able to match the 1995 Geo Prism in terms of quality.

QFT!!!!

 

[dirtboy]

The GTO didn't sell because it looks mediocore, is not a big performer outside of a straight line and is overpriced.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: dirtboy
The GTO didn't sell because it looks mediocore, is not a big performer outside of a straight line and is overpriced.

again, name a car with as nice of an interior and as powerful, with a usable second row, for the price of the GTO.

it didnt sell because GM never advertised it, at ALL.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

In an effort to go head-to-head with BMW, GM has decided to bring a version of the Holden Commodore stateside to be badged as a Pontiac.

Sounds overly ambitious...How much liberty did the Sydney Morning Herald take in paraphrasing the actual GM quote?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

In an effort to go head-to-head with BMW, GM has decided to bring a version of the Holden Commodore stateside to be badged as a Pontiac.

Sounds overly ambitious...Did the Sydney Morning Herald get that from a GM quote?

i highly doubt it.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: dirtboy
The GTO didn't sell because it looks mediocore, is not a big performer outside of a straight line and is overpriced.

again, name a car with as nice of an interior and as powerful, with a usable second row, for the price of the GTO.

it didnt sell because GM never advertised it, at ALL.

i guess you haven't watched college football in the last 3 years.


i honestly believe that had they named it G8 it would have sold well.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

In an effort to go head-to-head with BMW, GM has decided to bring a version of the Holden Commodore stateside to be badged as a Pontiac.

Sounds overly ambitious...Did the Sydney Morning Herald get that from a GM quote?

i highly doubt it.

Exactly. Has any Pontiac ever been significantly cross-shopped w/a BMW?

Isn't that what Cadillac is for?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

In an effort to go head-to-head with BMW, GM has decided to bring a version of the Holden Commodore stateside to be badged as a Pontiac.

Sounds overly ambitious...Did the Sydney Morning Herald get that from a GM quote?

i highly doubt it.

Exactly. Has any Pontiac ever been significantly cross-shopped w/a BMW?

Isn't that what Cadillac is for?

yes, its for that, and the V is to compete with the M, albeit they arent there yet.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

In an effort to go head-to-head with BMW, GM has decided to bring a version of the Holden Commodore stateside to be badged as a Pontiac.

Sounds overly ambitious...Did the Sydney Morning Herald get that from a GM quote?

i highly doubt it.

Exactly. Has any Pontiac ever been significantly cross-shopped w/a BMW?

Isn't that what Cadillac is for?

yes, its for that, and the V is to compete with the M, albeit they arent there yet.

Exactly...Pontiac competes with...uh...?

Does any other umbrella have a dedicated sport brand?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

In an effort to go head-to-head with BMW, GM has decided to bring a version of the Holden Commodore stateside to be badged as a Pontiac.

Sounds overly ambitious...Did the Sydney Morning Herald get that from a GM quote?

i highly doubt it.

Exactly. Has any Pontiac ever been significantly cross-shopped w/a BMW?

Isn't that what Cadillac is for?

yes, its for that, and the V is to compete with the M, albeit they arent there yet.

Exactly...Pontiac competes with...uh...?

Does any other umbrella have a dedicated sport brand?

VWAG has Lamborghini, and Bugatti...

Fiat has Ferrari

Porsche has, Porsche.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

In an effort to go head-to-head with BMW, GM has decided to bring a version of the Holden Commodore stateside to be badged as a Pontiac.

Sounds overly ambitious...Did the Sydney Morning Herald get that from a GM quote?

i highly doubt it.

Exactly. Has any Pontiac ever been significantly cross-shopped w/a BMW?

Isn't that what Cadillac is for?

yes, its for that, and the V is to compete with the M, albeit they arent there yet.

Exactly...Pontiac competes with...uh...?

Does any other umbrella have a dedicated sport brand?

VWAG has Lamborghini, and Bugatti...

Fiat has Ferrari

Porsche has, Porsche.

Errr...budget sport

not supercars

 

[DarkKnight69]

Porsche is not a supercar, you can buy a Cayenne for less then 60k.

 

[waggy]

sigh and here i was thinking of the computer..

nice car though!

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: cobalt
To go Head-to-Head with BMW? They must be insane. If they really wanted to go after BMW why would they badge it as a Pontiac...

I think Pontiac is the closest GM has to BMW, as strange as that sounds... Cadillac and Buick both have the grandpa stigma. BMW is sports-luxury, and Pontiac is GM's line of sporty cars.

Maybe they're trying to bump Pontiac up a notch on the luxury scale, because despite being a sports car brand it really offers nothing more than Chevy, and Chevy even goes a step further with the Corvette.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
Porsche is not a supercar, you can buy a Cayenne for less then 60k.

And a Boxster for much less. Primary point is that they're not a budget brand...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: cobalt
To go Head-to-Head with BMW? They must be insane. If they really wanted to go after BMW why would they badge it as a Pontiac...

I think Pontiac is the closest GM has to BMW, as strange as that sounds... Cadillac and Buick both have the grandpa stigma. BMW is sports-luxury, and Pontiac is GM's line of sporty cars.

Maybe they're trying to bump Pontiac up a notch on the luxury scale, because despite being a sports car brand it really offers nothing more than Chevy, and Chevy even goes a step further with the Corvette.

I think Cadillac has done a decent job of reinventing itself. Outside of those who are only buying the badge, I think many BMW-shoppers actually do (or should) give a second look at whatever the competing Cadillac is.

 

[dug777]

Next you'll be getting the Xr6 turbo i hope