Ho hum, November was the warmest on record

shira

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Another month, another all-time record-warm month. According to NASA, global average surface temperatures in November 2015 exceeded the average for Novembers from 1951 throught 1980 by 1.05 degrees. That's - by far - the warmest November ever. And it's the second-largest anomaly (October 2015, at 1.06 above the October average is the largest) on record.

For last 7 months of 2015 have each set all-time records.
 

Moonbeam

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I don't think that climate deniers have the courage to face the fact they are idiots. The Earth can look like the Sahara desert and they will deny and deny. They have too much ego committed to this stupidity to admit they are wrong. The worse it gets the more convinced they will be it doesn't exist. We are dealing with a brain defect.
 
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When there is snow in May they mock "So much for global warming!". When it's warm as hell in December across much of the country setting new records (may or may not be related to GW--probably not, really), they don't say a damn thing.
 

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I am not a denier at all, but.. El Nino has been kind of a big deal around my area even still this year. I'm not at all surprised that November was warmest on record, and I expect December to be as well. I guess El Nino happens every few years or so, meaning this current November is still comparable to other El Nino years. I don't know much about El Nino though - does it vary in relative "strength" or "warmth" or whatever the right word is from year to year? I guess if this year was particularly bad BECAUSE of global warming, that's bad.

Don't forget - deniers are terrorists! (not sarcasm)
 
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Once again the satellite data says no. But that new sea bucket adjustment to the surface data is truly amazing....I expect a lot more record highs the next several months.

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bshole

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Here in Wisconsin, we are setting records for warmth this winter. I have definitely noticed it. We are saving a shit ton in energy bills (somewhere between 30-40%). Hope it lasts....
 

Jaskalas

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momeNt

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Hurry, quick! Let's stop enjoying human innovation and technology. and TAX THE SHIT out of cheap emissions that provide wealth and utility to the middle and lower class.

I thought we wiped out the technology and emission hating native americans from this land a while ago? Now we want to ride horseback and live in tents and igloos?

Thought this was America?
 

cbrunny

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Hurry, quick! Let's stop enjoying human innovation and technology. and TAX THE SHIT out of cheap emissions that provide wealth and utility to the middle and lower class.

I thought we wiped out the technology and emission hating native americans from this land a while ago? Now we want to ride horseback and live in tents and igloos?

Thought this was America?

joke post.
 

shira

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Sea buckets weren't the largest change out there.
NOAA Relies On ‘Compromised’ Thermometers That Inflate US Warming Trend

Corruption is one of the leading differences between Surface Station and all the other records supporting the pause.
The Japanese Meteorological Agency is out there faking data too, apparently:
The monthly anomaly of the global average surface temperature was the warmest since 1891 [by which they mean the warmest since temperature measurements began].
 

momeNt

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I guess the only question is who stands to benefit from the succeeding with climate hysteria? I don't think the answer is as simple as shira's thread creation count.
 

shira

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Sea buckets weren't the largest change out there.
NOAA Relies On ‘Compromised’ Thermometers That Inflate US Warming Trend

Corruption is one of the leading differences between Surface Station and all the other records supporting the pause.
Oh, an Anthony Watts production.

Oh, and by the way, did you happen to notice that Watts' "landmark paper" [ha ha ha] addresses what he claims are bad sitings in the Continental U.S.? Even if his claims were correct, the OP is reporting average GLOBAL surface temperatures, to which the contribution of CONUS temperatures are only a small fraction.
 

Jaskalas

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Oh, an Anthony Watts production.

Oh, and by the way, did you happen to notice that Watts' "landmark paper" [ha ha ha] addresses what he claims are bad sitings in the Continental U.S.? Even if his claims were correct, the OP is reporting average GLOBAL surface temperatures, to which the contribution of CONUS temperatures are only a small fraction.

Right, because only US stations could be badly cited due to industrialization and land use changes. Your a f'ing genius!
 

cbrunny

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What regulations and emissions agreements that will come out of any deal to address man made global warming will not hurt the middle and lower class?

Hmm.. slightly less money, or widespread death, disease, famine, loss of land & homes.. hmm....

You make a good point. I choose money.
 

cbrunny

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Hyperbole is fun! :thumbsup:

What hyperbole? :whiste:


All I was saying is that I'd rather have some extra dough in my pocket than be part of a shift that ensures the long term health and sustainability of our planet. :awe:
 

momeNt

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Hmm.. slightly less money, or widespread death, disease, famine, loss of land & homes.. hmm....

You make a good point. I choose money.

Chances are the path is already set. So the best course is to make the best of what you have and enjoy it as long as possible.

Thinking it can change may lead to a lack of preparedness for when things actually do get worse.

False sense of hope was never something I think humanity can be accused of though right?
 

Paratus

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Once again the satellite data says no. But that new sea bucket adjustment to the surface data is truly amazing....I expect a lot more record highs the next several months.

UAH_LT_1979_thru_November_2015_v6.png

Sea buckets weren't the largest change out there.
NOAA Relies On ‘Compromised’ Thermometers That Inflate US Warming Trend

Corruption is one of the leading differences between Surface Station and all the other records supporting the pause.

The huge divergence between the surface data and satellite data appears to be accelerating. Hmmmm.

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Oh but the stratosphere is cooling according to satellite observation.

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So why does your satellite measurements show the atmosphere warming?

And the oceans are heating, hottest ever recorded.

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So why doesn't your atmospheric data show this has the hottest year?

I guess it's because the science isn't settled. Like the science that says energy is conserved and the oceans are part of the earth and out weigh the atmosphere by 3 orders of magnitude.

So since this science isn't settled but as you said, "Once again the satellite data says no" please support this statement with at least a hypothesis as to why the satellite data says no.

Thanks