hmm.. X in FreeBSD = no worky?

[Colt45]

I installed FreeBSD and X and KDE, etc. but when i boot and type Xwrapper, X comes up, but it just sits there. is something wrong or am i just suck at BSD?
posting on Lynx BTW

well thanks for any feedback.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

you have to tell it what to run when it starts.

i think it's kde-session, not too sure though.

echo "exec kde-session" > ~/.xinitrc

 

[Colt45]

ah, figured it out.

i did "xdm" when i was logged in as root.


now ive got to mess around with BSD for a while

 

[Bremen]

If xdm is running that should take up a VC I believe, so just start X on a different VC

startx -- :1

I'm mostly sure that should work. Although it would be best to either use xdm, or turn it off :0)

 

[TheOmegaCode]

<< ah, figured it out.

i did "xdm" when i was logged in as root.


now ive got to mess around with BSD for a while >>


No offense, but why the hell are you logging in as root?

 

[n0cmonkey]

<<

<< ah, figured it out.

i did "xdm" when i was logged in as root.


now ive got to mess around with BSD for a while >>


No offense, but why the hell are you logging in as root? >>



Why do people use the Administrator account on their Windows machines?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<<

<< ah, figured it out.

i did "xdm" when i was logged in as root.


now ive got to mess around with BSD for a while >>


No offense, but why the hell are you logging in as root? >>


i guess you never log in as root eh?

 

[Colt45]

<<

<< ah, figured it out.

i did "xdm" when i was logged in as root.


now ive got to mess around with BSD for a while >>


No offense, but why the hell are you logging in as root? >>



when i was logged in as my normal account, it denied me access to run xdm.

BTW, I always run windows as administrator

 

[n0cmonkey]

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<<

<< ah, figured it out.

i did "xdm" when i was logged in as root.


now ive got to mess around with BSD for a while >>


No offense, but why the hell are you logging in as root? >>



when i was logged in as my normal account, it denied me access to run xdm.

BTW, I always run windows as administrator >>



That makes sense. Either fix your permissions, figure out what you are doing wrong, or be prepared for trouble.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<< run windows >>




<< be prepared for trouble. >>


hahahah, erm, uh sorry couldnt help it

 

[Colt45]

well once i logged in as root and ran xdm, X asked me to login, and i used my normal login.

I dont suppose there is anyway to use RPM's with BSD is there?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<< I dont suppose there is anyway to use RPM's with BSD is there? >>


i dont think so they have ports though, should be alot better than rpm's (assuming you know how to use them )

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< well once i logged in as root and ran xdm, X asked me to login, and i used my normal login.

I dont suppose there is anyway to use RPM's with BSD is there? >>



Yes, there is.

 

[TheOmegaCode]

Logging in as Administrator and logging in as Root are polar opposites. Comparing the two is like comparing apples to chevy's. I, personally, never log in as root, I just SU to root. There are some known security holes with FBSD and root

As for RPM's...
#cd /usr/ports/archivers/rpm/
#make && make all install

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< Logging in as Administrator and logging in as Root are polar opposites. >>



I disagree.

 

[TheOmegaCode]

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<< Logging in as Administrator and logging in as Root are polar opposites. >>



I disagree. >>


Ellaborate... So then would you consider Powerusers the same as Wheel?

 

[n0cmonkey]

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<<

<< Logging in as Administrator and logging in as Root are polar opposites. >>



I disagree. >>


Ellaborate... So then would you consider Powerusers the same as Wheel? >>



I dont have enough experience to comment on powerusers.

The root user can do what he wants. The Admin user can do what he wants. Both have total control over the OS. Both can delete or modify any file they want to. Thats a bad power to have when you screw up.

 

[TheOmegaCode]

<< I dont have enough experience to comment on powerusers.

The root user can do what he wants. The Admin user can do what he wants. Both have total control over the OS. Both can delete or modify any file they want to. Thats a bad power to have when you screw up. >>


Hrmmm... I guess I just don't see it that way because in windows, the Administrator doesn't have total power. You cannot delete any file, or any folder. There are ALOT of places within the operating system that are kept secret from you. Whereas with root, you can essentially do anything you want, and if you run into a permission error, a simply chmod 777 will do the trick...

 

[n0cmonkey]

<<

<< I dont have enough experience to comment on powerusers.

The root user can do what he wants. The Admin user can do what he wants. Both have total control over the OS. Both can delete or modify any file they want to. Thats a bad power to have when you screw up. >>


Hrmmm... I guess I just don't see it that way because in windows, the Administrator doesn't have total power. You cannot delete any file, or any folder. There are ALOT of places within the operating system that are kept secret from you. Whereas with root, you can essentially do anything you want, and if you run into a permission error, a simply chmod 777 will do the trick... >>



deltree *.* That wont work?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<<

<<

<< I dont have enough experience to comment on powerusers.

The root user can do what he wants. The Admin user can do what he wants. Both have total control over the OS. Both can delete or modify any file they want to. Thats a bad power to have when you screw up. >>


Hrmmm... I guess I just don't see it that way because in windows, the Administrator doesn't have total power. You cannot delete any file, or any folder. There are ALOT of places within the operating system that are kept secret from you. Whereas with root, you can essentially do anything you want, and if you run into a permission error, a simply chmod 777 will do the trick... >>



deltree *.* That wont work? >>


heh, that'll work, but it wont delete every file, as rm -rf /* would do. also, admin in windows cant kill any process he wants, cant view/delete certain files, and other crap i cant think of.

also keep in mind, that if a regular user in windows did deltree c:\*.*, it would most likely cause a whole bunch of problems that would require a reinstall anyways...never done it, but i would bet money on it..

 

[TheOmegaCode]

<< deltree *.* That wont work? >>


I'm half temped to try it... But I know of an instance where at work, my boss made an Image of a backup partition, and windows kept telling him that this file was in use. No matter how many times he rebooted, he couldn't do anyhting to it. I went in and booted into safe mode, and we could finally copy it, then delete the original... Wierd crap like that is what I'm talking about. Only this isn't just a single instance, that was just an example...

 

[nihil]

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<<

<<

<< I dont have enough experience to comment on powerusers.

The root user can do what he wants. The Admin user can do what he wants. Both have total control over the OS. Both can delete or modify any file they want to. Thats a bad power to have when you screw up. >>


Hrmmm... I guess I just don't see it that way because in windows, the Administrator doesn't have total power. You cannot delete any file, or any folder. There are ALOT of places within the operating system that are kept secret from you. Whereas with root, you can essentially do anything you want, and if you run into a permission error, a simply chmod 777 will do the trick... >>



deltree *.* That wont work? >>


heh, that'll work, but it wont delete every file, as rm -rf /* would do. also, admin in windows cant kill any process he wants, cant view/delete certain files, and other crap i cant think of.

also keep in mind, that if a regular user in windows did deltree c:\*.*, it would most likely cause a whole bunch of problems that would require a reinstall anyways...never done it, but i would bet money on it.. >>



want me to test it out real quick? i got plenty of useless windows machines lying around to play doctor with.

 

[freebsddude]

<< well once i logged in as root and ran xdm, X asked me to login, and i used my normal login.

I dont suppose there is anyway to use RPM's with BSD is there? >>



Which specific RPMs are you referring to ? Please provide details so that others can help and
benefit as well.

What version of FreeBSD, X, KDE are you running ?

Some Linux RPMs may work under Linux emulation on FreeBSD, have you installed Linux compatibility ports and is Linux emulation turned on ? There may be corresponding FreeBSD ports (FreeBSD has over 6000+ ported applications, or ports), you may be better off installing the native FreeBSD ports, if they exist.

Best Wishes