Hmm, Tax Manager just called me into her office

[Xyo II]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Hmm, now my manager wants to go out to lunch with me. Something strange is going on here.....

Bonus earning time! :shocked:

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Hmm, now my manager wants to go out to lunch with me. Something strange is going on here.....

probably an offer letter

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Sounds like a great back-up plan. Work hard and inteview well and try and get inot a public accoutning firm, preferably a Big 4. The tax knowledge you will recieve in 2yrs will be more than you would ever get from that Company in 5yrs of work.

Very steep learning curve in Big 4 and your future employers will pay handsomely for that knowledge.

Of course if your scared of big projects, late nights, and working weekends to obtain that knowledge than a cushy Corp job is for you!

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk
If the benefits really are great, I'd say it evens out pretty well. Also, a low 40k salary right out of college is awesome. I mean, most college kids, end up making $7 an hour working at McWendy Kings for a few year until they find a real job. You've also worked for the company as an intern, so you know you don't mind the atmosphere. If anything, it will give you a steady job until you retire at 55, and decide to do somethign fun with your life.

What is up with all these freakin college grads who act like they have to settle for $40K. Thats freakin good money, its above the national average, and your only going to go up to probably the mid 70's by the time you retire.
Geez guys, you're like the NFL rookie draft pool... you've got a show me the money attitude, before you've even started day 1 on the job. You can't get that type of attitude until you've been there at least 5 years, and have some proven veteran experience.

Eh.... It's hard to figure out, I guess. There are a lot of people, especially on this board, who believe they should be making $60k+ right out of college. The sense of entitlement is ridiculous at times.

indeed.

 

[MaxDepth]

Did you ask her if you'll be working under her?
:evil:

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: LennyZ
Sometimes a pleasant work atmosphere is worth more than a few additional $$$.

QFT. I'd rather a few less bills in the bank and go home non-stressed and in a generally good mood everyday than hate my work atmostphere for more money.

 

[DainBramaged]

Tell her you'll take it. Keep looking.

 

[Pacemaker]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk
If the benefits really are great, I'd say it evens out pretty well. Also, a low 40k salary right out of college is awesome. I mean, most college kids, end up making $7 an hour working at McWendy Kings for a few year until they find a real job. You've also worked for the company as an intern, so you know you don't mind the atmosphere. If anything, it will give you a steady job until you retire at 55, and decide to do somethign fun with your life.

What is up with all these freakin college grads who act like they have to settle for $40K. Thats freakin good money, its above the national average, and your only going to go up to probably the mid 70's by the time you retire.
Geez guys, you're like the NFL rookie draft pool... you've got a show me the money attitude, before you've even started day 1 on the job. You can't get that type of attitude until you've been there at least 5 years, and have some proven veteran experience.

Eh.... It's hard to figure out, I guess. There are a lot of people, especially on this board, who believe they should be making $60k+ right out of college. The sense of entitlement is ridiculous at times.

indeed.

While I agree that some people have a sense of entitlement, some people just want to be paid what they are worth in the marketplace. If they go to salary.com or some other site and see that the entry level version of there job makes on average 50k a year in their area then they get offered 34k they should feel a little slided.

It comes down to a game between the company and the employee. The company wants to pay you as little as they can. The employee wants to get payed as much as they can. In the end there has to be some sort of middle ground. If companies pay employees too little they won't keep them long. If employees ask for too much money they will be unemployed.

(of course there are other things besides money you should consider when looking for a job, but money is usually the big one)

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Hmm, now my manager wants to go out to lunch with me. Something strange is going on here.....

probably an offer letter

Back.

Just Subway, casual conversation about tv shows, pugs (dogs), gossip.

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Hmm, now my manager wants to go out to lunch with me. Something strange is going on here.....

probably an offer letter

Back.

Just Subway, casual conversation about tv shows, pugs (dogs), gossip.

rofl, bait and switch!

$43k starting + great benefits + good opportunity to advance = a job seriously worth considering upon graduation.

 

[radioouman]

Sounds like a decent starting salary to me.
If you like the environment, take the job! Also, lots of vacation is worth more than $$$.

 

[CptObvious]

I'd take it, just because finding a first real job can be such a headache, and it seems like a good gig. But that's just from personal experience.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: Strk
If the benefits really are great, I'd say it evens out pretty well. Also, a low 40k salary right out of college isn't bad. I mean, it's a starting salary, so it can only go up. You've also worked for the company as an intern, so you know you don't mind the atmosphere. If anything, it will give you a steady job until you decide on something better.

Advancement is fast here. Staff I accountants can generally be promoted to a staff III within two years. From there goes Dept. Manager, Controller, CFO, etc.

trust me, you a have future by going into public accounting.

 

[intogamer]

push it to $45k?

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: intogamer
push it to $45k?

I'll will definetly try for that.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Hmm, now my manager wants to go out to lunch with me. Something strange is going on here.....

Happy ending?

 

[Injury]

If they ask for a response, tell them you'd prefer to see an offer in writing before you confirm anything, but that you are interested.

If they say you start low 40's... then say "roughly 43"... they'll try to give you 40.

The worst a company can say if you ask for more is "No"... and I have yet to see a company that goes back on an original offer after a counter offer.

Ask for $45. Even if you get it and start working there, don't stop looking for a job for a while. Some fields are in high demand for recent grads and may pay more, while other fields require a few years experience after graduation before they'll even interview you. Having a secure job when you are out of college is a big weight off of your shoulders because debt and student loans don't wait for you to find a job.

If you do get an offer for another job, there are always tradeoffs. You have to decide how much money you are willing to take a hit on to work for a company you may like more, and it's good to think about that stuff before you get numbers flashed in your face and "greed" takes over... "greed" is in quotes because I don't consider it a bad thing in this situation, really.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk
If the benefits really are great, I'd say it evens out pretty well. Also, a low 40k salary right out of college is awesome. I mean, most college kids, end up making $7 an hour working at McWendy Kings for a few year until they find a real job. You've also worked for the company as an intern, so you know you don't mind the atmosphere. If anything, it will give you a steady job until you retire at 55, and decide to do somethign fun with your life.

What is up with all these freakin college grads who act like they have to settle for $40K. Thats freakin good money, its above the national average, and your only going to go up to probably the mid 70's by the time you retire.
Geez guys, you're like the NFL rookie draft pool... you've got a show me the money attitude, before you've even started day 1 on the job. You can't get that type of attitude until you've been there at least 5 years, and have some proven veteran experience.

Eh.... It's hard to figure out, I guess. There are a lot of people, especially on this board, who believe they should be making $60k+ right out of college. The sense of entitlement is ridiculous at times.

Agree. I'm just happy to have a job that I don't hate (first week at the new job, and I'd actually say I feel at home already!). I hit the hard reality check when I first graduated that going to college doesn't give you a free ride to any job you want, it just qualifies you for more jobs that are hard to get with lots of other people going for the same job. It's about who you know not who you give your resume to most times.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk
If the benefits really are great, I'd say it evens out pretty well. Also, a low 40k salary right out of college is awesome. I mean, most college kids, end up making $7 an hour working at McWendy Kings for a few year until they find a real job. You've also worked for the company as an intern, so you know you don't mind the atmosphere. If anything, it will give you a steady job until you retire at 55, and decide to do somethign fun with your life.

What is up with all these freakin college grads who act like they have to settle for $40K. Thats freakin good money, its above the national average, and your only going to go up to probably the mid 70's by the time you retire.
Geez guys, you're like the NFL rookie draft pool... you've got a show me the money attitude, before you've even started day 1 on the job. You can't get that type of attitude until you've been there at least 5 years, and have some proven veteran experience.

Eh.... It's hard to figure out, I guess. There are a lot of people, especially on this board, who believe they should be making $60k+ right out of college. The sense of entitlement is ridiculous at times.

indeed.

While I agree that some people have a sense of entitlement, some people just want to be paid what they are worth in the marketplace. If they go to salary.com or some other site and see that the entry level version of there job makes on average 50k a year in their area then they get offered 34k they should feel a little slided.

It comes down to a game between the company and the employee. The company wants to pay you as little as they can. The employee wants to get payed as much as they can. In the end there has to be some sort of middle ground. If companies pay employees too little they won't keep them long. If employees ask for too much money they will be unemployed.

(of course there are other things besides money you should consider when looking for a job, but money is usually the big one)

The unfortunate truth of the matter is this...
In the current job market... there is always someone who can do your job just as good as you, and will do it for 1/2 of what you make.
There aren't a lot of jobs out there right now... there aren't a lot of people retiring yet...
There are a lot of people graduating, and entering the job market.
FACT: Employees outnumber available positions by a wide margin.

As long as there is some unemployed mexicans (crude example, but you got the point)available... you have no worth in the marketplace. Someone who has no money, no food, no means of support, will gladly come in and do your job for half of what you do it for, and most of the time they'll do it just as good as you.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk
If the benefits really are great, I'd say it evens out pretty well. Also, a low 40k salary right out of college is awesome. I mean, most college kids, end up making $7 an hour working at McWendy Kings for a few year until they find a real job. You've also worked for the company as an intern, so you know you don't mind the atmosphere. If anything, it will give you a steady job until you retire at 55, and decide to do somethign fun with your life.

What is up with all these freakin college grads who act like they have to settle for $40K. Thats freakin good money, its above the national average, and your only going to go up to probably the mid 70's by the time you retire.
Geez guys, you're like the NFL rookie draft pool... you've got a show me the money attitude, before you've even started day 1 on the job. You can't get that type of attitude until you've been there at least 5 years, and have some proven veteran experience.

Eh.... It's hard to figure out, I guess. There are a lot of people, especially on this board, who believe they should be making $60k+ right out of college. The sense of entitlement is ridiculous at times.

indeed.

While I agree that some people have a sense of entitlement, some people just want to be paid what they are worth in the marketplace. If they go to salary.com or some other site and see that the entry level version of there job makes on average 50k a year in their area then they get offered 34k they should feel a little slided.

It comes down to a game between the company and the employee. The company wants to pay you as little as they can. The employee wants to get payed as much as they can. In the end there has to be some sort of middle ground. If companies pay employees too little they won't keep them long. If employees ask for too much money they will be unemployed.

(of course there are other things besides money you should consider when looking for a job, but money is usually the big one)

The unfortunate truth of the matter is this...
In the current job market... there is always someone who can do your job just as good as you, and will do it for 1/2 of what you make.
There aren't a lot of jobs out there right now... there aren't a lot of people retiring yet...
There are a lot of people graduating, and entering the job market.
FACT: Employees outnumber available positions by a wide margin.

As long as there is some unemployed mexicans (crude example, but you got the point)available... you have no worth in the marketplace. Someone who has no money, no food, no means of support, will gladly come in and do your job for half of what you do it for, and most of the time they'll do it just as good as you.

you're obviously in the tech field, not accounting.

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Strk
If the benefits really are great, I'd say it evens out pretty well. Also, a low 40k salary right out of college is awesome. I mean, most college kids, end up making $7 an hour working at McWendy Kings for a few year until they find a real job. You've also worked for the company as an intern, so you know you don't mind the atmosphere. If anything, it will give you a steady job until you retire at 55, and decide to do somethign fun with your life.

What is up with all these freakin college grads who act like they have to settle for $40K. Thats freakin good money, its above the national average, and your only going to go up to probably the mid 70's by the time you retire.
Geez guys, you're like the NFL rookie draft pool... you've got a show me the money attitude, before you've even started day 1 on the job. You can't get that type of attitude until you've been there at least 5 years, and have some proven veteran experience.

Eh.... It's hard to figure out, I guess. There are a lot of people, especially on this board, who believe they should be making $60k+ right out of college. The sense of entitlement is ridiculous at times.

indeed.

While I agree that some people have a sense of entitlement, some people just want to be paid what they are worth in the marketplace. If they go to salary.com or some other site and see that the entry level version of there job makes on average 50k a year in their area then they get offered 34k they should feel a little slided.

It comes down to a game between the company and the employee. The company wants to pay you as little as they can. The employee wants to get payed as much as they can. In the end there has to be some sort of middle ground. If companies pay employees too little they won't keep them long. If employees ask for too much money they will be unemployed.

(of course there are other things besides money you should consider when looking for a job, but money is usually the big one)

The unfortunate truth of the matter is this...
In the current job market... there is always someone who can do your job just as good as you, and will do it for 1/2 of what you make.
There aren't a lot of jobs out there right now... there aren't a lot of people retiring yet...
There are a lot of people graduating, and entering the job market.
FACT: Employees outnumber available positions by a wide margin.

As long as there is some unemployed mexicans (crude example, but you got the point)available... you have no worth in the marketplace. Someone who has no money, no food, no means of support, will gladly come in and do your job for half of what you do it for, and most of the time they'll do it just as good as you.

you're obviously in the tech field, not accounting.

funny, how come the Big 4 are sending work to india for prep???

 

[Gulzakar]

Honestly?

Take it.

It's stable, they know you, you know them.

The most important part of a job after college is to use it for experience. you have plenty of time to make money.

 

[cavingjan]

Ask how much the benefits package is worth and how many hours you would be expected to work.

I recently had two people leave for better paying jobs and they are both unemployed as the increase in work hours did not match the increase in pay and reduction in vacation time.

Things to consider.