Hmm, might get a launch PS4 from ebay

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exdeath

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2 years? Watch Dogs is Q1 2014... for now!

Also what is the PS3 bringing to the table?

Tales of Symphonia Chronicles, The Witch and the Hundred Knights, Tales of Xillia 2, couple other odds and ends already out that I haven't caught up with yet like Dragon's Crown, Beyond, etc

There's more but I won't mention the cross-platform stuff.


Sure beats Call of Duty, UFC, and Need for Speed and similar shovelware on PS4 launch day.

3 weeks off for Christmas and New Years to enjoy.
 
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smackababy

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Tales of Symphonia Chronicles, The Witch and the Hundred Knights, Tales of Xillia 2, couple other odds and ends already out that I haven't caught up with yet like Dragon's Crown, Beyond, etc

There's more but I won't mention the cross-platform stuff.


Sure beats Call of Duty, UFC, and Need for Speed and similar shovelware on PS4 launch day.

3 weeks off for Christmas and New Years to enjoy.

Oh look! Another "Only games nobody has ever heard of are good and if a game isn't in a genre less than 100 people play it is dudebro and I hate it!" post by exdeath.

I swear, you sound just like a hipster talking about music.
 

Bman123

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Oh look! Another "Only games nobody has ever heard of are good and if a game isn't in a genre less than 100 people play it is dudebro and I hate it!" post by exdeath.

I swear, you sound just like a hipster talking about music.

I'm with ya on this
 

Dumac

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Oh look! Another "Only games nobody has ever heard of are good and if a game isn't in a genre less than 100 people play it is dudebro and I hate it!" post by exdeath.

I swear, you sound just like a hipster talking about music.

The Tales series is pretty big (not my cup of tea) and Dragon's Crown also had a decent following.

There is nothing wrong with liking niche titles.

I still have to play Uncharted 2+3, Last of Us, Nier, Ni No Kuni, Heavy Rain, and Journey on the PS3.

I also want to replay Demons Souls before Dark Souls 2.
 

smackababy

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I also want to replay Demons Souls before Dark Souls 2.
I actually played through Demon's Souls last week. It was surprisingly easy. Parts I had had trouble with before (Tower of Latrina) were a cake walk. But, I have put in like 200+ hours into Dark Souls. I went through all of Stonefang without a single death or returning to the Nexus. =(
 

Adrenaline

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You snooze you lose...5minutes after the price was announced Amazon listed pre-orders on their site. I got one from there immediately. Two days later Gamestop was doing them locally along with best Buy, Walmart etc. There was no shortage of places to pre-order. If you waited this long to decide you want one, well that's all on you.

I assume you work at a retailer in the upper management position to know that no PS4s will be available outside of pre-order per your post in the thread that stated such?

I worked at a Circuit City during the Christmas season for three straight years as part time. I talked with the manager over their video game department about ordering and such as I did the ordering for the department I worked in at my full time job. Yes, consoles came up.

He even said that it had been years since the console makers actually had available supply in good quantity during the Christmas holidays. I saw people lined up to get them also. When consoles came in they were gone by people who had phoned ahead, getting their shipment days on merchandise, and had been basically sitting there all morning. I saw people leave disappoints half the time when no consoles came in.

Around here, they will not be readily available outside of the minor amount that trickle in. Other areas will face the same issue, that is why they sell for $700 on eBay.

Of course a miracle could have happened, Sony could have gotten their stuff together FINALLY, after all these years. I doubt that has happened though.

I also think Xbox Ones will be sold out due to people not being able to find a PS4. I have not heard any of my friends say they want an Xbox One, but they all want a PS4.
 

Adrenaline

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The launch lineup is extremely week. Just wait 2-4 weeks and they will probably have more.

The demand is more predictable and the supply larger this time around.

They said this same thing last time. It did not happen.
 

smackababy

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I wonder for Amazon pre-orders, if it is just as easy as changing the name and address on the ship to section for the pre-order? I plan on selling the two extra I have.

Yep, you can change the ship address before the order goes through. However, if the card on file becomes expired or is removed, it is a PITA to change it. I had this happen for SC2:HotS Collector's Edition. I called customer support about it and they were like "well, we can cancel the order, but you'd have to buy it from somewhere else." Um, you can't buy it from somewhere else, hence the reason I preordered it 6 months ago! Finally got it sorted out though.
 

Adrenaline

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Yep, you can change the ship address before the order goes through. However, if the card on file becomes expired or is removed, it is a PITA to change it. I had this happen for SC2:HotS Collector's Edition. I called customer support about it and they were like "well, we can cancel the order, but you'd have to buy it from somewhere else." Um, you can't buy it from somewhere else, hence the reason I preordered it 6 months ago! Finally got it sorted out though.

Thanks.
 

destrekor

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They said this same thing last time. It did not happen.

The big difference between previous gens and this generation is there, aside from basic unique components, the major components within the consoles are not extremely complicated custom fabbed parts. It's generic x86 architecture. The overall package is unique to the consoles, but the R&D, fabs, production, it's all under control.

In other words, no crazy custom PowerPC architecture, no new media launching/getting the big chance to make a market penetration (DVD, Blu-ray). Hell, even most of the components haven't had major supply disruptions for awhile. DRAM should be good, though not at the cheapest point historically; HDDs are fine; fab tech processes at the node(s) they are using should be very mature; and again, customized but otherwise off-the-shelf technology will be a major player.

Do they have straight retail GPU architecture? Not entirely, but I'm sure they didn't actually make significant architectural changes to the GPU tech in each of the new consoles.


Granted - we are still talking a full computer, of sorts, with moving parts, moving probably between 250,000-750,000 units. There WILL be limited availability - but Sony is taking a careful measured launch (haven't looked into Microsoft), delaying a major customer (Japan) until well into the new year, with Europe a few weeks after North America. I think they'll have the ability to trickle in stock while stockpiling new production for launches in other regions.
 

gus6464

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Since Watch Dogs got delayed there are no games I want to play when PS4 launches so I just cancelled my Launch Day Preorder. Wonder if that was a mistake now...
 

sze5003

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Since Watch Dogs got delayed there are no games I want to play when PS4 launches so I just cancelled my Launch Day Preorder. Wonder if that was a mistake now...

You could have sold it and made profit if not at least got your money back. Without watchdogs, I'm not that excited for it anymore. Might pick mine up, sit on it for a few days and see if I can get a bit over retail for it. I can play bf4 and ghosts on my pc if I really wanted to.
 

Dumac

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Since Watch Dogs got delayed there are no games I want to play when PS4 launches so I just cancelled my Launch Day Preorder. Wonder if that was a mistake now...

I did the same.

Don't worry about it. Hopefully someone who actually wants the console will get it, without having to go through some leechy middleman who adds nothing to society.

You would have to spend at least a couple hours to make a pretty measly profit and (hopefully) feel dirty afterwards.
 

gus6464

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Yeah I will just wait until next year when Watch Dog hits and just walk in to a store and buy one. I am enjoying BF4 on my PC so not missing anything right now. What I really want is the PS Vita with the FFX/FFX-2 bundle.
 

sze5003

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I don't even want either new console, but people like you should be punched in the throat.

If people are dumb enough to buy them then what's the problem. An item is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
 
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I don't even want either new console, but people like you should be punched in the throat.

Why? It's not a limited edition rollout, there will be more made and put on shelves. If you are presented with an easy and legal way to make $300 from somebody willing and happy to give you that money, then what's the big deal? Some poor joe has to wait an extra 3 weeks to get his console? Cry me a river.
 

HeXen

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Money doesn't mean the same for everyone, doesn't make them dumb unless they are not paying a bill or a high interest loan. People do have fun money ya know. I got over $800 in fun money right now.
 

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Why? It's not a limited edition rollout, there will be more made and put on shelves. If you are presented with an easy and legal way to make $300 from somebody willing and happy to give you that money, then what's the big deal? Some poor joe has to wait an extra 3 weeks to get his console? Cry me a river.

Yeah, this. I do have a problem with the people who do this with limited items though. There are several limited Blu-ray runs that I missed out on and now they are $100-$200 each on eBay which rubs me raw and there is prospects for more of them being released in the future. :\

KT
 
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