Hizballah rockets kill 10, injure 4

[RichardE]

Headline News
Sunday, August 06, 2006 by Staff Writer

Israel pummeled over the weekend
Ten Israelis were killed and four others were seriously wounded in the single worst Hizballah rocket attack since fighting began about a month ago.

?This is one of the most severe incidents since the onset of the fighting in Lebanon; there are many casualties at the scene,? said Galilee Police Commander Danny Hadad.

About 30 rockets were fired by noon on Sunday, landing in Kibbutz Kfar Giladi near Kiryat Shmona. Palestinians in Nablus celebrated in the streets following the lethal attack. Despite the Israeli army?s intensive operations in southern Lebanon, Hizballah has fired almost 200 rockets a day at Israel.

The Sunday attacks follow an intense weekend of bombardment: A total of 300 Katyusha rockets and other missiles hit the north of Israel, killing six civilians and wounding several more.

Friday night had also marked the first ever missiles launched to the city of Hadera, a distance of about 85 kilometers from the Lebanese border. This is the southernmost point the Hizballah missiles have hit so far in this campaign. The missiles, dubbed ?Khaibar I? by the Hizballah hold a warhead of about 100 kilos of explosives and metal balls intended to inflict maximum damage.

In response to the long range launch towards Hadera Friday night, an Israeli Navy SEAL team raided an apartment building north of the city of Tyre on the Lebanese coast, killing Hizballah terrorists who were also responsible for launching those missiles.

The population was not the only one hard hit this weekend. In intense fighting in villages in the south of Lebanon, five IDF soldiers were killed and 30 were wounded, several critically, in clashes with the Hizballah. One of the soldiers killed, Captain Dr. Igor Rothstein, a military doctor and orthopedist at Poriah Hospital in Tiberias, is the first reservist to be killed in the war.

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Sad to see civilians dying in this fight, it is too bad Hez doesn't even have the excuse there are military targets around there.

Palestinians in Nablus celebrated in the streets following the lethal attack.

This is one of the main reasons we will never have peace with these animals.

The missiles, dubbed ?Khaibar I? by the Hizballah hold a warhead of about 100 kilos of explosives and metal balls intended to inflict maximum damage.

Also sad to see something made to purposely kill civilians.

Update: Three killed and at least 150 wounded in Haifa rocket attack
Three people were killed and at least 150 were wounded when a rocket his a house in a residential area of Haifa. The barrage of rockets struck at least six separate sites in crowded residential areas.

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More dead and wounded from obvious civilian targeting

for the famillies

 

[Jaskalas]

Strive for a lasting cease fire. Not for a false one that preludes further bloodshed by resetting and rearming the stage of both weapons and lives to be lost.

To achieve this from Israel?s side, Hebzollah?s military must surrender or die. Or those supporting Hezbollah, they only accept all of Israel dying before there is peace. So to me, my side in this war is crystal clear.

We cannot fathom the bloodshed those here who support Hezbollah wish to reap upon us.

 

[BrownTown]

Do we honestly need a new post for every single attack that is made? I mean yes, of course these latest civillian deaths are tragic, but I just think this whole topic already has 50 other threads that people can post in.

 

[Polish3d]

One of many differences is that the Israelis don't celebrate civilian deaths

 

[Trente]

Originally posted by: Frackal
One of many differences is that the Israelis don't celebrate civilian deaths

What is even more ridiculous is how Palestinians reacted after the rocket attack on Hadera last week: they celebrated on the streets while wishing for a direct hit on Israel's major power station in Hadera which also happens to supply them with electricity. Those idiots wish to have their electricity knocked out as long as Israelis also suffer from it. This just goes to show you the difference between a western society only wanting to defend itself while craving for a long lasting peace and a primitive blood thirsty one that is idolizing death, destruction and terror.

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[Skyclad1uhm1]

Hezbollah kills more soldiers than civilians. And that is something which cannot be said from the Israelis.

But then, Halutz (lieutenant-general of the Israeli military) said before that he doesn't really care about the civilians dying to Israeli attacks, right after an attack on the flat of an Hamas leader which resulted in the death of 15 civilians, among which 9 children.
He also said about pilots who refused to bomb innocent civilians that they were cowards, and that the only thing he feels when releasing a bomb on a target is the slight shock which runs through the airplane when the bomb is released.

But that doesn't look positive for Israel, so that will probably not be reported by Fox News and other 'trustworthy' newsstations.

 

[firewall]

Regretable incident. Loss of life is always regretable though IMO every Lebanese life is equal to every Israeli life. Considering that Lebanon has lost more civilians from Israel's bombing... yeah.

Edit: And stop posting every new attack in a seperate thread. Just post it in the other threads already on this issue.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Sad to see civilians dying in this fight, it is too bad Hez doesn't even have the excuse there are military targets around there.

This is one of the main reasons we will never have peace with these animals.

Also sad to see something made to purposely kill civilians.

More dead and wounded from obvious civilian targeting

for the famillies

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

Hezbollah has killed more Israeli soldiers than civilians.

Israel has killed many times more civilians than soldiers.

If I was looking at it from a completely neutral standpoint (meaning looking at the hard numbers only), I would think Israel has shown less regard for innocent life than Hezbollah.

And the reason we'll never have peace is because every Israeli bomb dropped on a family or home creates a new generation of hatred towards their country. Hopefully Israel will show a little restraint before dropping bombs next time, or their luck might run out. They are definitely the strongest military power in the region, but they are a small strip of land with several million people, surrounded by an enormous sea of potential enemies and a couple hundred million Muslims who are getting tired of this aggression.

Another way to obtain peace would be the equalization of military forces; M.A.D. Both sides will be less likely to attack when the response will be equal to what they dish out.

 

[IrateLeaf]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: RichardE

Sad to see civilians dying in this fight, it is too bad Hez doesn't even have the excuse there are military targets around there.

This is one of the main reasons we will never have peace with these animals.

Also sad to see something made to purposely kill civilians.

More dead and wounded from obvious civilian targeting

for the famillies

Let's look at the facts, shall we?

Hezbollah has killed more Israeli soldiers than civilians.
Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

Israel has killed many times more civilians than soldiers.
Again civilians are a casualty of war. Israel cannot help that Hezbollah uses women and children to hide behind.So let me get this right so that i completely understand you. If israel never attacked those who are firing missles at Israeli cities that would be "OK" by you?
Thus following what you are saying eventually there would be no Israel.
Becuase if you cannot fight your enemy you cannot defeat your enemie.
Don`t give me any of this diplomacy poppycock. Both parties have to want peace for diplomacy to work. Its a sure thing Hezbollah wants the total destruction of Israel.

If I was looking at it from a completely neutral standpoint (meaning looking at the hard numbers only), I would think Israel has shown less regard for innocent life than Hezbollah.
I would say if you didn`t understand that hezbollah is fighting amongst law abiding families and hiding amongst women and children. You might be able to make that assumption.
yet israel always gives ample warning for people to get out or leave.
I don`t see Hezbollah giving warning before lobbing missles into Israeli residential areas.

And the reason we'll never have peace is because every Israeli bomb dropped on a family or home creates a new generation of hatred towards their country. Hopefully Israel will show a little restraint before dropping bombs next time, or their luck might run out. They are definitely the strongest military power in the region, but they are a small strip of land with several million people, surrounded by an enormous sea of potential enemies and a couple hundred million Muslims who are getting tired of this aggression.
No that is not the reason we will never see peace. thats just idiotic what you said.
The reason we will never see peace is becuase Hezbollah and iran and Syria as well as other nations do not want peace with Israel
They want a peace where there is NO Israel.

Another way to obtain peace would be the equalization of military forces; M.A.D. Both sides will be less likely to attack when the response will be equal to what they dish out.
Again that is foolish and wishful thinking.
Your realize Israel doesn`t have just one enemy. All the middle east have always wanted Israel to be pushed back into the sea.
To have equal distribution of force. You would still have how many nations with the same amount of force all ganged up against Israel.

You post as if you believe a peaceful solution is possible.
Since time began and there was a miffle east the arab nations have been enemies of Israel and vice a verse.
trust me when I say there is no diplomatic option that will work. effectively for very long!

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: firewall
Regretable incident. Loss of life is always regretable though IMO every Lebanese life is equal to every Israeli life. Considering that Lebanon has lost more civilians from Israel's bombing... yeah.

:thumbsup: QFT

 

[Lemon law]

Lets examine the premise of a negotiated settlement between Israel and those opposing Israel.

1. As someone who does support the right of Israel to exist----I still see both parties---if we can be so naive as to assume their are only two sides---But we must realise both sides are very much in the wrong here.---------meanwhile innocent parties on both sides are dying-----the entirety of the Palistinian peole are being held in bondage----and this conflict goes on year after year unabated.---we are now at year 58.

2. The Israelie position is and remains they must be militarily stronger---to detur agression by Arab States.---------which also has the convient or inconvient side effect of allowing Israel to deny the extent it has been in the wrong also.---which now has resulted in hatd liners in Israel to now control the political process----and now somewhat the same thing can be said of the opposition. In short the moderates---who might agree on something are not listened to.----------not good for any negotiated settlement prospects.

3. In such conditions terrorism is the natural politics of the powerless-------and has been for thousands of years---so nothing new here-----------but what is new is the terrorists finally obtaining a technology that allows them to stand at a convient distance away---and conviently terrorise Israel in the same way Israel has been terrorizing its Palistinian population for the past 58 years.

4. What must be noted is that this is not coming from organized Arab States---its now coming only from Lebanon---and Lebanese terrorists at that---and one must ask what Lebanese State exists to police its own?---and what little exists of a Lebanese government now exists after the recent Israelie bombing of the entire country.

5. The trend line is clear---terrorist will get longer range rockets---and start setting up without the knowledge and consent of other arab states---and start repeating the process. Then how big of a buffer zone will Israel need?

6. Its now clear the the terrorists have won---and will keep winning----until the moderates come together to make a more honest peace.--------but lots of more blood to be spilled before that happens-----the rocket has leveled the playing field.

 

[fallenangel99]

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Lets examine the premise of a negotiated settlement between Israel and those opposing Israel.

1. As someone who does support the right of Israel to exist----I still see both parties---if we can be so naive as to assume their are only two sides---But we must realise both sides are very much in the wrong here.---------meanwhile innocent parties on both sides are dying-----the entirety of the Palistinian peole are being held in bondage----and this conflict goes on year after year unabated.---we are now at year 58.

2. The Israelie position is and remains they must be militarily stronger---to detur agression by Arab States.---------which also has the convient or inconvient side effect of allowing Israel to deny the extent it has been in the wrong also.---which now has resulted in hatd liners in Israel to now control the political process----and now somewhat the same thing can be said of the opposition. In short the moderates---who might agree on something are not listened to.----------not good for any negotiated settlement prospects.

3. In such conditions terrorism is the natural politics of the powerless-------and has been for thousands of years---so nothing new here-----------but what is new is the terrorists finally obtaining a technology that allows them to stand at a convient distance away---and conviently terrorise Israel in the same way Israel has been terrorizing its Palistinian population for the past 58 years.

4. What must be noted is that this is not coming from organized Arab States---its now coming only from Lebanon---and Lebanese terrorists at that---and one must ask what Lebanese State exists to police its own?---and what little exists of a Lebanese government now exists after the recent Israelie bombing of the entire country.

5. The trend line is clear---terrorist will get longer range rockets---and start setting up without the knowledge and consent of other arab states---and start repeating the process. Then how big of a buffer zone will Israel need?

6. Its now clear the the terrorists have won---and will keep winning----until the moderates come together to make a more honest peace.--------but lots of more blood to be spilled before that happens-----the rocket has leveled the playing field.

The size of the buffer zone is inversely proportional to the attitude of the government where the troublemakes are operating from.

Note that there are not launches coming in from Syria/Jordan or Egypt.

1) Egypt will not stand for the trouble
2) Jordan has already shown that they will not tolerate trouble makers (they already through out the PLO once)
3) Syria is willing to act as a host country as long as their is nto actually attacks on Israel from their soil. They know that their military can not handle an Israel response.

Where the launches are coming from
4) The PA (Gaza) is controlled by the militants and have/do not want a country of peace.
5) Lebanon is weak from hosting the PLO and Hezbollah and the other Arab states want to keep her weak. This allows their proxies to operate without problems, yet allowing a "clean hands" attitude.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

Ouch, IrateLeaf gets Al Capwned :thumbsup:

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

The NYT might not be, but I'll wager "Lebanese security officials" are.

A little premature pwnage there, jpeyton :roll:

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

Israel's soldiers have been dying while in ground combat against Hezbollah. The rockets fired into Israel have rarely, if ever, killed a solider.

Lebanon's death toll is high because Hezbollah is using their people as human shields, a tactic validated by the media and by their sympathizers to defeat Israel.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

The only problem is this can be easily explained by the fact that Israel cares about its civilians and Lebannon does not. During the years and years between war what did both countries do?

Israel built bomb shelters for its citizens, Hizballah built tunnels for its army.

If Hizballah built bomb shelters for its citizens I am sure the civililian number would be the same.

I really love how you guys totally disregard the fact there were no military targets anywhere near these civilian homes, and that they are randomly firing rockets into Israel residential targets hoping to kill woman/children.

So in the end what you are saying is it is alright for Hizballah to launch rockets into Israel to even up the score? Or is it because you want Israel to fail as well? Maybe if the Arab nations actually treated there civilians as something other than dog meat/human shields you would see less civilian casulaties. Of course the Arab nations have to grow up before we see this.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

The only problem is this can be easily explained by the fact that Israel cares about its civilians and Lebannon does not. During the years and years between war what did both countries do?

Israel built bomb shelters for its citizens, Hizballah built tunnels for its army.

If Hizballah built bomb shelters for its citizens I am sure the civililian number would be the same.

I really love how you guys totally disregard the fact there were no military targets anywhere near these civilian homes, and that they are randomly firing rockets into Israel residential targets hoping to kill woman/children.

So in the end what you are saying is it is alright for Hizballah to launch rockets into Israel to even up the score? Or is it because you want Israel to fail as well? Maybe if the Arab nations actually treated there civilians as something other than dog meat/human shields you would see less civilian casulaties. Of course the Arab nations have to grow up before we see this.

Until we defeat the tactics of using your own people as body bags to win international acclaim, I do not think we will see an end to Lebanon's death toll. As far as public relations are concerned, terrorism has become how you win that aspect of war.

This is rather ridiculous in my view, seeing as how they wage war from their people?s homes and are thus directly responsible for their own death toll.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

The NYT might not be, but I'll wager "Lebanese security officials" are.

A little premature pwnage there, jpeyton :roll:

Okay smart guy, why not use the AP/Reuters own body counts, which are closer to 600 deaths?

The pwnage wasn't premature at all, because regardless of whether you choose the lowest possible estimate out there, or a more realistic one (taking into account bodies not recovered because military operations are still ongoing), the conclusion stays exactly the same.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

Israel's soldiers have been dying while in ground combat against Hezbollah. The rockets fired into Israel have rarely, if ever, killed a solider.

Lebanon's death toll is high because Hezbollah is using their people as human shields, a tactic validated by the media and by their sympathizers to defeat Israel.

Unfortunately, your so-called sources that continually spout the use of human shields are either 1) Op-Ed pieces 2) Israeli military officials covering their own carnage with a convenient excuse 3) JihadWatch.org, IsraelFTW.com, or some other equally credible source.

The same old rhetoric does not excuse the results.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: fallenangel99
"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

Heh, the NYT must have corrected their Anti-Zionist comments., I don't see any mention of what you quoted on their site or anywhere on the net. I don't see anything like what Skyclad1uhm1 claimed was in his BBC link either.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: fallenangel99
"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

Heh, the NYT must have corrected their Anti-Zionist comments., I don't see any mention of what you quoted on their site or anywhere on the net. I don't see anything like what Skyclad1uhm1 claimed was in his BBC link either.

This is a new one...can't disprove it so you claim it doesn't exist. :roll:

What he quoted is on the second page of the article, third and fourth paragraphs from the end of the story.

NEXT!

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

The NYT might not be, but I'll wager "Lebanese security officials" are.

A little premature pwnage there, jpeyton :roll:

Okay smart guy, why not use the AP/Reuters own body counts, which are closer to 600 deaths?

The pwnage wasn't premature at all, because regardless of whether you choose the lowest possible estimate out there, or a more realistic one (taking into account bodies not recovered because military operations are still ongoing), the conclusion stays exactly the same.

So you are saying that Hizbollah accurately represents the number of fighters killed? :roll:

Doesn't matter IMO anyhow, as I reject the whole "dispraportionate" argument anyhow. Israel is acting with remarkable restraint. Realists see this, pacifists don't and never will.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: fallenangel99

Your argument hold no water. Show me a website that says through this whole war hezbollah has killed more soldiers that civilains.
Also it must be noted and you cannot dispute this. Every time Hexbollah lobs a rocket at an Israeli city there intend is to kill civilians!! Whenever israel attacks Hezbollah there intent is to kill the people who are firing the missles. Not civilians.

"Including the casualties announced today, 59 Israeli soldiers and at least 36 civilians have been killed. Before Sunday, the deadliest day for Israel was last Thursday, when 12 people were killed.

In Lebanon, about 700 people have been killed, a vast majority of them civilians, according to Lebanese security officials."

Link

There. Please don't counter and say that NY Times is Anti-Semetic.

The NYT might not be, but I'll wager "Lebanese security officials" are.

A little premature pwnage there, jpeyton :roll:

Okay smart guy, why not use the AP/Reuters own body counts, which are closer to 600 deaths?

The pwnage wasn't premature at all, because regardless of whether you choose the lowest possible estimate out there, or a more realistic one (taking into account bodies not recovered because military operations are still ongoing), the conclusion stays exactly the same.

So you are saying that Hizbollah accurately represents the number of fighters killed? :roll:

Doesn't matter IMO anyhow, as I reject the whole "dispraportionate" argument anyhow. Israel is acting with remarkable restraint. Realists see this, pacifists don't and never will.

That is more or less what it comes down too. If you sit back and look at this without an agenda you would see that Israel could have replicated the Roman's way of dealing with it. Just wipe everyone out.

 

[Aimster]

If Isreal took out 700 civilians in one airstrike the world would demand an end to the fighting. However, 20 here 5 there ... the world is not pushing as hard.