HIV Prevention Pill Shows Early Promise

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HIV Prevention Pill Shows Early Promise
By MARILYNN MARCHIONE
AP
(Aug. 12) -- The first test of a daily pill to prevent HIV infection gave a tantalizing hint of success, but a real answer must await a larger study due out next year.

The experiment, done in Africa, mainly showed that the drug Viread is safe when used for prevention. Fewer people given the drug caught the AIDS virus than those given dummy pills, but so few in either group became infected that valid comparisons cannot be made, scientists said.

Still, "it's incredibly encouraging," said Dr. Helene Gayle, president of the antipoverty group CARE and co-chair of the International AIDS Conference in Toronto, where the results were released on Saturday.

If future studies show effectiveness, the drug "would be an incredibly important new prevention tool that we should make available as soon as possible," she said.

A vaccine is considered the best hope for stopping the spread of AIDS, but scientists have not been able to make one that prevents infection. Condoms and counseling have not been enough - the virus spreads to 5 million more people worldwide each year.

The new approach involves Viread (known generically as tenofovir), a drug already used to treat AIDS. Animal research suggests that taking it before being exposed to HIV, through drugs or sex, could help prevent infection.

A study by Family Health International, funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, tested it on women in Africa at high risk because of multiple sex partners (many were prostitutes). None had HIV at the start of the study. They were randomly assigned to get either daily Viread or dummy pills and all were counseled and given condoms.

No safety problems emerged - an important first step, said Leigh Peterson, project manager for Family Health. After an average of six months, only two HIV cases developed among the 427 women on Viread, compared with six infections among the 432 given the fake drug.

"We really would be irresponsible to draw conclusions at this time," because those are too few cases to make judgments on, said Dr. Ward Cates of Family Health. "But it does underscore the importance of moving forward very quickly now on the other studies on the drawing board."

The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has studies under way in drug users in Thailand, heterosexual men and women in Botswana, and gay men in Atlanta and San Francisco. Plans are proceeding to add a third U.S. city, said Dr. Lynn Paxton, project leader at CDC.

The Thai results may be ready late next year and should reveal whether the strategy works. The Botswana study recently was changed to add a second drug, FTC, sold with tenofovir as Truvada by Gilead Sciences Inc. of Foster City, Calif.

However, the Africa study shows the ethical perils in such research. It originally was to include 1,200 women - 400 each in Ghana, Cameroon and Nigeria - but Nigeria and Cameroon ended participation prematurely over concerns about whether and for how long women in the study who became infected would receive treatment for AIDS.

Family Health worked to formalize contracts with local providers for testing and treatment as appropriate so the study could go forward on a limited scope, Peterson said.

And the study itself had benefits - half as many infections occurred than had been expected in the placebo group because the women cut back on the number of sex partners and condoms were used more often.

Some researchers have been worried that the opposite might happen if people believed a pill was protecting them.

"It's good that they didn't see an increase in risk" behaviors, said Dr. Susan Buchbinder of the San Francisco Department of Public Health, who is leading the CDC study in that city.

"We know that from all the trials we have done that even in the placebo group, risk is going to go down," the CDC's Paxton said.

Another study, funded by the National Institutes of Health, is expected to start later this year in Peru. It will test Truvada in 1,400 gay men in Peru. Family Health is working on plans for a new Truvada study as well.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Vegitto
They gave people AIDS to test this? :Q

Reading comprehension is a good thing.

Try reading the article.
 

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it still will always come down to politics/money and the efficient use of that money.
 

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Originally posted by: Vegitto
They gave people AIDS to test this? :Q

And the study itself had benefits - half as many infections occurred than had been expected in the placebo group because the women cut back on the number of sex partners and condoms were used more often.
 

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Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
I for one do not even believes, AIDS/HIV is real. But to each their own. Here is a bit of the reason. But essentially most people that die from it, die from kidney failure, which happens to be one of primary side effects of the drugs they take to fight AIDS.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/20...uit_hiv_is_aids_myth_falling_apart.htm

AIDS itself does not kill you, from what i understand. it wraeks havok on your immune system, so everything else becomes 1000000x deadlier than before, leaving you susceptible to even the most common virii and bacteria
 

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
I for one do not even believes, AIDS/HIV is real. But to each their own. Here is a bit of the reason. But essentially most people that die from it, die from kidney failure, which happens to be one of primary side effects of the drugs they take to fight AIDS.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/20...uit_hiv_is_aids_myth_falling_apart.htm

AIDS itself does not kill you, from what i understand. it wraeks havok on your immune system, so everything else becomes 1000000x deadlier than before, leaving you susceptible to even the most common virii and bacteria

I guess it depends on how you look at it. If I shoot you in the head I suppose you're perfectly free to say it was neither I nor the bullet that killed you; rather, that the new hole in your head was conducive to hemorrhaging (and whatever else happens when a bullet enters your brain).
 

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
The bible thumpers would never allow this pill to cume to fruition.

Wtf? Why?

Better yet, why do people always find a way to integrate politics or religion into every discussion?
 

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
The bible thumpers would never allow this pill to cume to fruition.

Wtf? Why?

Better yet, why do people always find a way to integrate politics or religion into every discussion?

I was thinking of the 'morning-after' pill. Why did it take so long to be approved, and why isn't it OTC now, hmmm?
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
The bible thumpers would never allow this pill to cume to fruition.

Wtf? Why?

Better yet, why do people always find a way to integrate politics or religion into every discussion?

I was thinking of the 'morning-after' pill. Why did it take so long to be approved, and why isn't it OTC now, hmmm?

Those are two very different drugs for two very different purposes, physiologically and morally (if you want to define it on those grounds, something which many do with regards to the morning after pill). I find it strange how you managed to correlate the two.
 

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
I for one do not even believes, AIDS/HIV is real. But to each their own. Here is a bit of the reason. But essentially most people that die from it, die from kidney failure, which happens to be one of primary side effects of the drugs they take to fight AIDS.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/20...uit_hiv_is_aids_myth_falling_apart.htm

AIDS itself does not kill you, from what i understand. it wraeks havok on your immune system, so everything else becomes 1000000x deadlier than before, leaving you susceptible to even the most common virii and bacteria

I guess it depends on how you look at it. If I shoot you in the head I suppose you're perfectly free to say it was neither I nor the bullet that killed you; rather, that the new hole in your head was conducive to hemorrhaging (and whatever else happens when a bullet enters your brain).
lol, that's about the same analogy I always use. Someone shot in the chest dies of "uncontrolled bleeding."


 

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Amused

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
The bible thumpers would never allow this pill to cume to fruition.

Wtf? Why?

Better yet, why do people always find a way to integrate politics or religion into every discussion?

Actually, the Religious Right did try to stop the HPV/cervical cancer vaccine recently... claiming it's success would lead to increased sexual activity.

I have no doubt they would make an even bigger stink over an HIV vaccine or preventative treatment.
 

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
I for one do not even believes, AIDS/HIV is real. But to each their own. Here is a bit of the reason. But essentially most people that die from it, die from kidney failure, which happens to be one of primary side effects of the drugs they take to fight AIDS.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/20...uit_hiv_is_aids_myth_falling_apart.htm

AIDS itself does not kill you, from what i understand. it wraeks havok on your immune system, so everything else becomes 1000000x deadlier than before, leaving you susceptible to even the most common virii and bacteria

I guess it depends on how you look at it. If I shoot you in the head I suppose you're perfectly free to say it was neither I nor the bullet that killed you; rather, that the new hole in your head was conducive to hemorrhaging (and whatever else happens when a bullet enters your brain).
lol, that's about the same analogy I always use. Someone shot in the chest dies of "uncontrolled bleeding."

dying of uncontrolled bleeding means death wasn't instant.

that would be the thing: direct head/heart-short = instant death.

bleeding to death = not instant
 

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The amount of disinformation in this thread is ridiculous.....and SilthDraeth please come work in a hospital setting to see what happens when people have HIV/AIDS and then tell me it's the drugs cuz I've seen what happens when they take the drugs and when they dont, neither one is pretty.

Fenixgoon-

You are correct HIV makes you more likely to develop diseases non-HIV patients dont have. Once you've progressed to full blown AIDS then yes, diseases and syndromes start happening to you that normally could be easily treated but with the AIDS your body cant do SH!T to stop...

If you'd like more information I'd be happy to provide it to you or anyone else who PMs/asks for it.

And FYI I work in a major trauma hospital as a student nurse, so I've got a fair idea of what I'm talking about here.

EDIT: For the record HIV != AIDS
 

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
The bible thumpers would never allow this pill to cume to fruition.

Wtf? Why?

Better yet, why do people always find a way to integrate politics or religion into every discussion?

WE HAVE MEDICINE NOW THAT PREVENTS AIDS. It's used on rape victims, and nurses who get stabbed by dirty needles, etc. You have to take it for a few weeks, you'll feel sick to your stomache and want to die, but you won't get HIV. Basically if you take it within 24 hours of exposure it's 99.999% effective.
 

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TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
The bible thumpers would never allow this pill to cume to fruition.

Wtf? Why?

Better yet, why do people always find a way to integrate politics or religion into every discussion?

WE HAVE MEDICINE NOW THAT PREVENTS AIDS. It's used on rape victims, and nurses who get stabbed by dirty needles, etc. You have to take it for a few weeks, you'll feel sick to your stomache and want to die, but you won't get HIV. Basically if you take it within 24 hours of exposure it's 99.999% effective.

Please use proper terms and facts BEFORE you post.

It doesnt prevent AIDS, it prevents HIV and it just basically blocks the virus from getting where it wants. It's not anything new or exciting. Otherwise ya you'll feel sick, maybe vomit or diarrhea.

HIV != AIDS
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
The bible thumpers would never allow this pill to cume to fruition.

Wtf? Why?

Better yet, why do people always find a way to integrate politics or religion into every discussion?

Actually, the Religious Right did try to stop the HPV/cervical cancer vaccine recently... claiming it's success would lead to increased sexual activity.

I have no doubt they would make an even bigger stink over an HIV vaccine or preventative treatment.
I was about to post the same thing.

Yeah, the Religious Right is of the opinion that if a disease is transmitted primarily by sexual activity then the only acceptable disease control is abstinence. They are, of course, blissfully ignoring the prospect of other disease transmission methods or *gasp* rape. Amazing.

Frankly, I think the RR will make the same argument they've made with the HPV vaccine, just that this time around there will be a lot more push against them, hopefully enough for some regulatory body to grow a sack, step up and say, "hey f%$#wit, we need to wipe this disease out, and this vaccine will do it. Everyone is going to get this vaccine, it is not going to be optional and I don't care what moral bulls%$# you pull," then steal one of the RR's favorite sayings and end it with, "and if you don't like it you can leave the country any time you want."

That is, provided it actually works.
 

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Daily pill to prevent HIV.

... That's BRILLIANT!

You might lose all the income from everyone who contracts the disease, over the maybe 10 years that treatment can sustain them - but you gain income from everyone who is at all afraid that they might contract it from the day they decide to become sexually active (or from birth, depending) until the day they decide to stop... Which these days, could be 60-70 years! Just figure out a way to sandwich it into the same pill as both male and female birth control hormones, and PROFIT!

Of course, this WILL be FDA approved, because the FDA loves doctors, and doctors hate those uncertain moments after they accidentally stick themselves in the ER - regardless of what the anti-sex activists think.