Hit and Run on Busy Street and No One Cares

BigToque

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
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Watching the video makes me so angry. The two vehicles that hit the man and take off. Then all of the vehicles and people doing nothing for the poor man.

That's disgusting that everyone is just standing around and driving by
 

BrokenVisage

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Um.. those standing around MIGHT BE calling 911. Drivers will be drivers, they have a place they gotta be and some people just would rather go about their business in that situation, maybe they call 911 while on their way past it though. You can't willy-nilly say that no one cared, what are you going to do with someone who just got hit by a car? Try to move him? That may make things worse. I agree it looks bad but I'm SURE this scene is played out almost identically in my city frequently.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Um.. those standing around MIGHT BE calling 911. Drivers will be drivers, they have a place they gotta be and some people just would rather go about their business in that situation, maybe they call 911 while on their way past it though. You can't willy-nilly say that no one cared, what are you going to do with someone who just got hit by a car? Try to move him? That may make things worse. I agree it looks bad but I'm SURE this scene is played out almost identically in my city frequently.

Read the article, no one called 911.

"The minute-long video shows several cars passing Torres as a few people stare from the sidewalk. Some approached Torres but most stayed put until a police cruiser responding to an unrelated call arrives on the scene."

 

dquan97

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If the victim isn't in any imminent danger, he shouldn't be moved because there can be a risk of causing additional damage.
 

randay

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"DUDE! you just got hit by a car!" /rummage in victims pockets for wallet.
 

blackdogdeek

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i hope that if i were a bystander i would have tried to help the victim or at the very least called 911. but, i could understand some people being worried about being sued if they attempted to help the victim.

does anyone remember potential good samaritans being sued even though they were only trying to help in similar situations? i seem to remember some news stories like that. someone is injured, someone else tries to help, the victim dies, the person who tries to help is sued by family of victim. something like that.

it also looks like one guy takes a picture with his camera phone but it's hard to tell. if so, that guy is an scumbag.
 

digiram

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When we were younger, maybe about 20 or years ago, my brother was a hit and run victim. He was on his bike, got hit by a car, and a good samaritan jotted down the hitter's licence plate number and gave it to him. My brother just got back up and rode his bike home. He didn't tell any one untill days afterward. He was afraid that my mom might get mad at him and give him some more pain...lol. Which, of course, wouldn't happen, but at times when we'd trip and fall or do something dumb to hurt ourselves there was no "awe baby are you ok" it was always "that's what your ass get" from our parents. We love them though.

Just wanted to share my thoughts.

This same type of scenario doesn't happen all the time.

Btw, I went to a coffee shop a few days ago for lunch and on my way back there was a car that stalled in right next to me. Under normal circumstances, I would've stopped to help out but had to rush to work. I contemplated on stopping and felt really bad, but had to think about the consequences that could affect me.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: blackdogdeek


does anyone remember potential good samaritans being sued even though they were only trying to help in similar situations? i seem to remember some news stories like that. someone is injured, someone else tries to help, the victim dies, the person who tries to help is sued by family of victim. something like that.
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That's the key. Most states have good samaritan laws in place, but those laws only protect people with medical or rescue training. If anyone laid a finger on that guy they'd be open to lawsuits even if they didn't do anything wrong. Sad, but that's the world we live in. If I had been standing on that corner I would have tried to get the license plate number of the car, but I would not have gone within 20 feet of the victim.

 

BigToque

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Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
i hope that if i were a bystander i would have tried to help the victim or at the very least called 911. but, i could understand some people being worried about being sued if they attempted to help the victim.

does anyone remember potential good samaritans being sued even though they were only trying to help in similar situations? i seem to remember some news stories like that. someone is injured, someone else tries to help, the victim dies, the person who tries to help is sued by family of victim. something like that.

it also looks like one guy takes a picture with his camera phone but it's hard to tell. if so, that guy is an scumbag.

Thankfully in Canada you can't be sued in such a scenario. I also think in the province of Quebec, if you know first aid, you are legally required to help the person provided it doesn't put you in harms way.
 

IceBergSLiM

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10000 bucks says the driver was operating without licence, insurance, registration or a green card.
 

R Nilla

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It's sad because probably 98% of the people in that video had cell phones on them. Maybe they were just too shocked to think straight? I would hope that I would at least dial 911 if I witnessed someone lying in the middle of the street.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: R Nilla
It's sad because probably 98% of the people in that video had cell phones on them. Maybe they were just too shocked to think straight? I would hope that I would at least dial 911 if I witnessed someone lying in the middle of the street.

I would have gone up to the man to see if he was conscious and while calling 911 stand in the way of traffic, so no other vehicle could hit him.
 

sygyzy

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What actually happened is sort of confusing. First of all, it's a very heavy traffic street with only one lane in each direction. You see the guy jaywalking, diagonally across the street. Two cars enter oncoming traffic (lane) in a very aggressive manner, like they were swerving to avoid something. At the same time, a SUV pulls off suddenly on the right side. Weird.
 

Baked

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Sure this is a case of people being self absolved assholes, but that doesn't mean people can just throw personal responsibility out the window. I like how some people think they own the damn road and walk into the middle of the traffic like they own the road. Maybe if the old guy didn't try to save a minute by walking into the middle of traffic, but instead used the cross walk w/ traffic lights or stop sign, he wouldn't get run over. Jay walker pwnd.
 

Number1

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The old man was jay walking. After the accident, the drivers are distracted by a car on the other side of the street backing up into traffic. People are standing up looking at the old man. A police car shows up less then a minute after the accident. It does looks like the people are taking pictures of the old man with their cel phones.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: Imp
Did I see a motorcycle just manouver around him?

The motorcycle actually turned around, looked at the scene and decided to leave.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: dquan97
If the victim isn't in any imminent danger, he shouldn't be moved because there can be a risk of causing additional damage.
Fine, then pedestrians could have at least gone out and surrounded him to ensure no one would run him over. The demeanor of everyone there was not of "Oh no, this is an emergency." It was more like, "Huh, look at that. Gee, I wonder what's going to be on 'Lost' tonight."

 

I Saw OJ

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They talked about this on the news today, called it bystander empathy or something like that, dont know the exact term. Its that everyone thinks that someone else is going to help, then since everyone is thinking that, no one in fact, help.
 

Bacstar

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It's definitely a sad world we live in nowadays when it may too dangerous or risky to offer a lending hand.

I had something similar happen to me when i used to commute to work by bicycle. I won't get into a long story, but i crashed, ended up lying on the street unconscious for an hour at least. When I did come to, I watched several cars drive past not doing a thing to help. I ended up walking a mile or so trying to find a pay phone to call family and get a ride to the hospital. This was back in the early 90's so celphones weren't that common yet. I ended up with a concussion, broken collarbone, and 12-stitches.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Baked
Sure this is a case of people being self absolved assholes, but that doesn't mean people can just throw personal responsibility out the window. I like how some people think they own the damn road and walk into the middle of the traffic like they own the road. Maybe if the old guy didn't try to save a minute by walking into the middle of traffic, but instead used the cross walk w/ traffic lights or stop sign, he wouldn't get run over. Jay walker pwnd.

Not that it excuses the guy's jaywalking, but the drivers of the two cars were driving on the wrong side of the road presumably because they wanted to save 5 seconds by not waiting for the car in front of them to pull over.