Im doing a paper in english about whether or not the US was justified in dropping either(essepcially the second)A-bomb during WW2. Know of any good WW2 resoures?
thanks,
-doug
thanks,
-doug
history links? info on A-bombs dropped to End WW2
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If we didn't use the A-bombs the Japanese the war would have been much more bloody. So many more of them and our men would have been pointlessly slaughtered.
The A-bombs made for a much quicker finish. The Japanese surrendered, Hitler killed himself. Done & done. Considering that, I think that dropping them was justified.
The A-Bomb allowed America to win the war saving hundreds of thousands of US while sacrificing thousands of Japanese citizens in years to come. It also prevented Russia from taking over Japan and claiming it for themselves. That?s why we have Sony. My grandfather finished WWII in Japan. 
(I'm Russian)
(I'm Russian)Well, there's the other side of it which has people saying that Japan was ready to surrender before the two were dropped. In that case...
First you don't know if the war would have dragged on since you dropped the bombs and the war ended, everything else is speculation (even though it can be more or less probable).
Secondly you are not supposed to use indiscriminate weapons in war that hurt civilians the same as soldiers. The reasoning that you can sacrifice some people to save a lot more people is quite disgusting if you think about it. First of all you didn't ask the people sacrificed about their wishes. On a smaller scale you could say that we should take this man, kill him and donate his organs to people in need. The total good of saving maybe four or five people from a certain death will outweigh the single person killed.
Secondly you are not supposed to use indiscriminate weapons in war that hurt civilians the same as soldiers. The reasoning that you can sacrifice some people to save a lot more people is quite disgusting if you think about it. First of all you didn't ask the people sacrificed about their wishes. On a smaller scale you could say that we should take this man, kill him and donate his organs to people in need. The total good of saving maybe four or five people from a certain death will outweigh the single person killed.
What you know about this event is what you are told... your government is never going to tell you what went on before and after th tradgedy that your counrty inflicted on not only Japan but to the whole planet....
Your government must also have a 'short memory too!'
They seem ready to send your guys off to be slaughtered again and again... when will it end... I can tell you, and that is when the world is truly free.... free of capitolist and free of the pigs of war...
Your government is targeting Afgan poppy fields so they have no cash source to buy weapons... who has been selling them weapons... I can tell you right now it was Big bad Bill Clinton and all those before him... it was the UK and the French.... and now who is trying to clean up the mess..... the same governments... but who are they USING to clean it up.... YOUR BOYS!
Open your eye's America... you could be a great nation... but the world is looking at you all as a nemesis!
Policy change not war is the only answer to this problem...... Think before responding!!!!!!!
Your government must also have a 'short memory too!'
They seem ready to send your guys off to be slaughtered again and again... when will it end... I can tell you, and that is when the world is truly free.... free of capitolist and free of the pigs of war...
Your government is targeting Afgan poppy fields so they have no cash source to buy weapons... who has been selling them weapons... I can tell you right now it was Big bad Bill Clinton and all those before him... it was the UK and the French.... and now who is trying to clean up the mess..... the same governments... but who are they USING to clean it up.... YOUR BOYS!
Open your eye's America... you could be a great nation... but the world is looking at you all as a nemesis!
Policy change not war is the only answer to this problem...... Think before responding!!!!!!!
"Well, there's the other side of it which has people saying that Japan was ready to surrender before the two were dropped. In that case..."
There are always people that will revise history to suit their agenda. If Japan had wanted to surrender it could have done so at any time. It had not done so before the first bomb, it did not do so after the first bomb was dropped. It took the second to force the issue.
atomicmuseum.com
Military Considerations
June, 1945
During the bloody struggle to take the Philippines and Okinawa, President Truman and his military were concentrating on an invasion of Japan. The U.S. Navy was cruising off the Japanese coast and submarines were patrolling the Sea of Japan. Those in power in Tokyo were making plans for a house-to-house resistance to any invasion. Japan had over 5 million men under arms, of which 2 million were stationed on the home islands. Based upon the dogged resistance at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, the allies determined that as many as 500,000 to one million allied soldiers would die if the invasion, scheduled for November 1, 1945 took place.
There are always people that will revise history to suit their agenda. If Japan had wanted to surrender it could have done so at any time. It had not done so before the first bomb, it did not do so after the first bomb was dropped. It took the second to force the issue.
atomicmuseum.com
Military Considerations
June, 1945
During the bloody struggle to take the Philippines and Okinawa, President Truman and his military were concentrating on an invasion of Japan. The U.S. Navy was cruising off the Japanese coast and submarines were patrolling the Sea of Japan. Those in power in Tokyo were making plans for a house-to-house resistance to any invasion. Japan had over 5 million men under arms, of which 2 million were stationed on the home islands. Based upon the dogged resistance at Iwo Jima and Okinawa, the allies determined that as many as 500,000 to one million allied soldiers would die if the invasion, scheduled for November 1, 1945 took place.
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<< i have to write a 7 page paper, so i need links and citeable info. >>
Check out
A New History of World War II - edited by Stephen Ambrose (it was originally written by some other guy)
it should give you good info and a bibliography to work from...
just to tell you, the statistics are that if we did not drop the bombs Operation Olympic would have commenced. The invasion of Japan would have been costly, estimated casualties are 1 million allied soldiers, a large number of japanese soldiers, and an even larger number of japanese civilians. From this standpoint we were justified. Also, one must remember we had no idea of the effects of radiaton back then, thus our decision did not include giving thousands of japanese cancer and whatnot.
Those who make war against the United States have chosen their own destruction,You will be asked for your patience, for the conflict will not be short. You will be asked for resolve, for the conflict will not be easy. You will be asked for your strength because the course to victory may be long,
President Bush
What a load of crap... and if you think that Bush wrote it.. your just a stupid as your leaders....
Those who make war anainst the U.S.A.... what about Vietnam.. or can't you think that far back? What about Korea? I could go on..... but you wouldn't read about it....SHORT MEMORY
President Bush
What a load of crap... and if you think that Bush wrote it.. your just a stupid as your leaders....
Those who make war anainst the U.S.A.... what about Vietnam.. or can't you think that far back? What about Korea? I could go on..... but you wouldn't read about it....SHORT MEMORY
Okay...you...weirdo...
LOL....I'm weird? You obviously haven't stepped back from it all and had a good look at where things have gone wrong! I didn't want to get personal...but the good old US needds to be shaken up. No one desurves to die... and if your govenment is so wrapped up in protecting the peolpe... why does it send them to war?
LOL....I'm weird? You obviously haven't stepped back from it all and had a good look at where things have gone wrong! I didn't want to get personal...but the good old US needds to be shaken up. No one desurves to die... and if your govenment is so wrapped up in protecting the peolpe... why does it send them to war?
Final Months of World War II
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In the spring of 1945, civilians were given instructions on how to kill American soldiers if they invaded. Stab them in the stomach with bamboo spears, people were told. Use kitchen knives, or whatever weapons are at hand. Women tied up their kimono sleeves with thin sashes and practiced skewering straw dummies with bamboo spears. "Savage Americans!" they were told to shout as they did so.
On every block, households were told to step up activities through their "tonarigumi," or neighborhood associations, practicing civil defense and keeping watch for any disloyal activities. Everyone had to wear military-style name tags sewn to the chest of their blouse or kimono. In June, the government ordered the mobilization of all Japanese men under age 60 as "volunteers." Their weapons: spears, bows and arrows, iron pipes. Cabinet ministers who reviewed the "troops" were reportedly shocked by their primitive equipment.
Japan's leaders might have hoped a display of fierce fanaticism on the part of civilians would prevent the American military from embarking on a land invasion. Historians are still arguing over the degree to which the decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was influenced by US fears of huge casualties in hand-to-hand fighting to take the Japanese mainland.
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In the spring of 1945, civilians were given instructions on how to kill American soldiers if they invaded. Stab them in the stomach with bamboo spears, people were told. Use kitchen knives, or whatever weapons are at hand. Women tied up their kimono sleeves with thin sashes and practiced skewering straw dummies with bamboo spears. "Savage Americans!" they were told to shout as they did so.
On every block, households were told to step up activities through their "tonarigumi," or neighborhood associations, practicing civil defense and keeping watch for any disloyal activities. Everyone had to wear military-style name tags sewn to the chest of their blouse or kimono. In June, the government ordered the mobilization of all Japanese men under age 60 as "volunteers." Their weapons: spears, bows and arrows, iron pipes. Cabinet ministers who reviewed the "troops" were reportedly shocked by their primitive equipment.
Japan's leaders might have hoped a display of fierce fanaticism on the part of civilians would prevent the American military from embarking on a land invasion. Historians are still arguing over the degree to which the decision to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was influenced by US fears of huge casualties in hand-to-hand fighting to take the Japanese mainland.
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<< Those who make war anainst the U.S.A.... what about Vietnam.. or can't you think that far back? What about Korea? I could go on..... but you wouldn't read about it....SHORT MEMORY
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What, exactly, is your point?
Try to put together a coherent sentence containing some semblance of facts and I will attempt to discuss this with you in a reasonably intelligent manner.
And, yes, I can think back far enough to Korea and Viet Nam. I served during Nam, where were you?
<< Those who make war anainst the U.S.A.... what about Vietnam.. or can't you think that far back? What about Korea? I could go on..... but you wouldn't read about it....SHORT MEMORY >>
We have a short memory? What language do you think you would be speaking down there in the outback if we hadn't kicked Japan's ass? Tell me you're not so ignorant to think you could have handled them by yourselves. I love it when people from other countries, who owe there very existence to us, come on here and complain about how we do things. Just say thank you and we'll call it even.
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