Hispanic Vote for Bush

OFFascist

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Originally posted by: dahunan
"Amnest for illegals"

Missing a "y" there buddy.

Perhaps.

Also perhaps they dont like the Christian bashing, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage that many of the more liberal democrats are supporting.
 

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Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: dahunan
"Amnest for illegals"

Missing a "y" there buddy.

Perhaps.

Also perhaps they dont like the Christian bashing, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage that many of the more liberal democrats are supporting.

Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.
 

OFFascist

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.

Yep thats the way to court the Hispanic vote right there.

Enjoy being the minority someday.

I'll tell you what, we certainly wont end up like the Blacks, we will run this country someday.

And we wont run it like the chump democrats have been.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: dahunan
"Amnest for illegals"

Missing a "y" there buddy.

Perhaps.

Also perhaps they dont like the Christian bashing, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage that many of the more liberal democrats are supporting.

Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.


:thumbsdown: :cookie:

You've lost it.
 

jjzelinski

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Even minorities can be hypocrtical, nobody's perfect I suppose. I want equal rights! But I don't want them to!
 

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Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.

Yep thats the way to court the Hispanic vote right there.

Enjoy being the minority someday.

I'll tell you what, we certainly wont end up like the Blacks, we will run this country someday.

And we wont run it like the chump democrats have been.

The Democrats are the chumps, huh? I honestly doubt the Republicans value the Hispanic population for anything besides their vote.

The Republican party will always invite Hispanics to eat at the dinner table, but there will never be a spot at the head.

 

OFFascist

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
The Democrats are the chumps, huh? I honestly doubt the Republicans value the Hispanic population for anything besides their vote.

Oh so you mean the same way the Democrats dont value Blacks except for thier vote?

I've seen the way Democrats pander to blacks for thier votes but I've also seen that nothing fundamentally has changed for the Black community in the Decades that I've been alive.

The Republican party will always invite Hispanics to eat at the dinner table, but there will never be a spot at the head.

The Bush administration has had more minorities in positions of power than previous democratic administrations have. Definately more Hispanics.

Shit one of Bush's nephews is Mexican-American.

I'm not totally anti Democrat, however I would hate to see Hispanics pigeonholed as Democrats in the same way that many Blacks are. We need to go with the party that will get us best into power.

Just this past election we got two new Hispanic Senators, Salazar a Democrat in Colorado, and Martinez a Republican in Florida.
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: dahunan
"Amnest for illegals"

Missing a "y" there buddy.

Perhaps.

Also perhaps they dont like the Christian bashing, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage that many of the more liberal democrats are supporting.

Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.

Nice one Mr. Closet Racist. That should win you a lot of votes. Insult minorities.

Maybe the next Democrat candidate for president can drag a black guy onto the stage in shackles?
 

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Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The Democrats are the chumps, huh? I honestly doubt the Republicans value the Hispanic population for anything besides their vote.

Oh so you mean the same way the Democrats dont value Blacks except for thier vote?

I've seen the way Democrats pander to blacks for thier votes but I've also seen that nothing fundamentally has changed for the Black community in the Decades that I've been alive.

The Republican party will always invite Hispanics to eat at the dinner table, but there will never be a spot at the head.

The Bush administration has had more minorities in positions of power than previous democratic administrations have. Definately more Hispanics.

Shit one of Bush's nephews is Mexican-American.

And that's why they won a significant portion of the Hispanic vote. Both parties pander equally. But if you look at the agenda of each party, the Republicans do not intend to improve the quality of life for the Hispanic population, instead choosing to appeal to their religious core.

Overall, the Hispanic population would have benefitted more from Kerry's health care plan and revised tax structure, and amnesty for established illegals.

Don't feel duped, though. Most of America fell for the "moral values" BS hook, line, and sinker.
 

jtusa

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The Democrats are the chumps, huh? I honestly doubt the Republicans value the Hispanic population for anything besides their vote.

Oh so you mean the same way the Democrats dont value Blacks except for thier vote?

I've seen the way Democrats pander to blacks for thier votes but I've also seen that nothing fundamentally has changed for the Black community in the Decades that I've been alive.

The Republican party will always invite Hispanics to eat at the dinner table, but there will never be a spot at the head.

The Bush administration has had more minorities in positions of power than previous democratic administrations have. Definately more Hispanics.

Shit one of Bush's nephews is Mexican-American.

And that's why they won a significant portion of the Hispanic vote. Both parties pander equally. But if you look at the agenda of each party, the Republicans do not intend to improve the quality of life for the Hispanic population, instead choosing to appeal to their religious core.

Overall, the Hispanic population would have benefitted more from Kerry's health care plan and revised tax structure, and amnesty for established illegals.

Don't feel duped, though. Most of America fell for the "moral values" BS hook, line, and sinker.

Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that people value their morals and religious beliefs very highly, in some cases above all else? You can call them zealots, fanatics, whatever you want, but it's been that way since the beginning of time and it will never change. Some people actually put God above their comfort level. Faith is a very powerful motivator.
 

jjzelinski

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Originally posted by: jtusa4
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The Democrats are the chumps, huh? I honestly doubt the Republicans value the Hispanic population for anything besides their vote.

Oh so you mean the same way the Democrats dont value Blacks except for thier vote?

I've seen the way Democrats pander to blacks for thier votes but I've also seen that nothing fundamentally has changed for the Black community in the Decades that I've been alive.

The Republican party will always invite Hispanics to eat at the dinner table, but there will never be a spot at the head.

The Bush administration has had more minorities in positions of power than previous democratic administrations have. Definately more Hispanics.

Shit one of Bush's nephews is Mexican-American.

And that's why they won a significant portion of the Hispanic vote. Both parties pander equally. But if you look at the agenda of each party, the Republicans do not intend to improve the quality of life for the Hispanic population, instead choosing to appeal to their religious core.

Overall, the Hispanic population would have benefitted more from Kerry's health care plan and revised tax structure, and amnesty for established illegals.

Don't feel duped, though. Most of America fell for the "moral values" BS hook, line, and sinker.

Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that people value their morals and religious beliefs very highly, in some cases above all else? You can call them zealots, fanatics, whatever you want, but it's been that way since the beginning of time and it will never change. Some people actually put God above their comfort level. Faith is a very powerful motivator.


Morals should be something you discipline yourself by, not others. Unless of course they're your children. Are they you children? GOD? IS THAT YOU?! I'M SO SORRY PLEEEEASE DON'T SEND ME TO HELL JTUSA04 GOD! PLEEEEEASE!!!!! Oh by the way that makes you a blasphemer so pack your bags you broke a commandment.
 

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Originally posted by: jtusa4
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The Democrats are the chumps, huh? I honestly doubt the Republicans value the Hispanic population for anything besides their vote.

Oh so you mean the same way the Democrats dont value Blacks except for thier vote?

I've seen the way Democrats pander to blacks for thier votes but I've also seen that nothing fundamentally has changed for the Black community in the Decades that I've been alive.

The Republican party will always invite Hispanics to eat at the dinner table, but there will never be a spot at the head.

The Bush administration has had more minorities in positions of power than previous democratic administrations have. Definately more Hispanics.

Shit one of Bush's nephews is Mexican-American.

And that's why they won a significant portion of the Hispanic vote. Both parties pander equally. But if you look at the agenda of each party, the Republicans do not intend to improve the quality of life for the Hispanic population, instead choosing to appeal to their religious core.

Overall, the Hispanic population would have benefitted more from Kerry's health care plan and revised tax structure, and amnesty for established illegals.

Don't feel duped, though. Most of America fell for the "moral values" BS hook, line, and sinker.

Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that people value their morals and religious beliefs very highly, in some cases above all else? You can call them zealots, fanatics, whatever you want, but it's been that way since the beginning of time and it will never change. Some people actually put God above their comfort level. Faith is a very powerful motivator.

I KNOW faith is important to many.

But I'm trying to understand why improving the quality of life of your fellow people takes a back seat to "moral values" when those values weren't an issue in the first place. The President made them an issue so that you would have to make that tough decision between improving your own standing in the world and your faith.

What's the gay population in the rural counties of a state like Ohio, where Bush won by landslides? Almost nill. What's the abortion rate in those same rural counties? Nill.

Where are those gays living and those abortions being performed? In the big cities. In the places Kerry won. Would a Kerry victory in the election have caused gay marraige to be legalized? Probably not. (Hell, even Bush will have a hard time trying to ban gay marriage again) Would a Kerry victory make the gays move out to rural Ohio? Probably not. But that was the fear.
 

jtusa

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: jtusa4
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
The Democrats are the chumps, huh? I honestly doubt the Republicans value the Hispanic population for anything besides their vote.

Oh so you mean the same way the Democrats dont value Blacks except for thier vote?

I've seen the way Democrats pander to blacks for thier votes but I've also seen that nothing fundamentally has changed for the Black community in the Decades that I've been alive.

The Republican party will always invite Hispanics to eat at the dinner table, but there will never be a spot at the head.

The Bush administration has had more minorities in positions of power than previous democratic administrations have. Definately more Hispanics.

Shit one of Bush's nephews is Mexican-American.

And that's why they won a significant portion of the Hispanic vote. Both parties pander equally. But if you look at the agenda of each party, the Republicans do not intend to improve the quality of life for the Hispanic population, instead choosing to appeal to their religious core.

Overall, the Hispanic population would have benefitted more from Kerry's health care plan and revised tax structure, and amnesty for established illegals.

Don't feel duped, though. Most of America fell for the "moral values" BS hook, line, and sinker.

Is it really that hard for you to comprehend that people value their morals and religious beliefs very highly, in some cases above all else? You can call them zealots, fanatics, whatever you want, but it's been that way since the beginning of time and it will never change. Some people actually put God above their comfort level. Faith is a very powerful motivator.

I KNOW faith is important to many.

But I'm trying to understand why improving the quality of life of your fellow people takes a back seat to "moral values" when those values weren't an issue in the first place. The President made them an issue so that you would have to make that tough decision between improving your own standing in the world and your faith.

What's the gay population in the rural counties of a state like Ohio, where Bush won by landslides? Almost nill. What's the abortion rate in those same rural counties? Nill.

Where are those gays living and those abortions being performed? In the big cities. In the places Kerry won. Would a Kerry victory in the election have caused gay marraige to be legalized? Probably not. (Hell, even Bush will have a hard time trying to ban gay marriage again) Would a Kerry victory make the gays move out to rural Ohio? Probably not. But that was the fear.

Don't try and understand it, because if you don't think like that then you probably never will understand it. You just have to learn to accept it and work with them. (BTW, I'm not trolling here, honestly telling you what I think).
 

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I would like to see a breakdown of the Hispanic vote by state. Anyone know where to get that information. I believe that spanish speaking Jeb in Florida and his easy stance on illegal immigration while Texas governor gave him a big majority of the vote in those two states, but how about California, New York and Illinois?
 

Rainsford

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Hispanics are generally more strongly religious than the average American, and as the exit polls clearly showed, "Morality/Religion" was a big reason Bush got so many supporters. If you think that's a long term direction for the Republicans, I wouldn't bet on it. We shall see...but I'm willing to bet the country shifts gears away from that sort of thing in the next 15 years or so.
 

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Hispanics are generally more strongly religious than the average American, and as the exit polls clearly showed, "Morality/Religion" was a big reason Bush got so many supporters. If you think that's a long term direction for the Republicans, I wouldn't bet on it. We shall see...but I'm willing to bet the country shifts gears away from that sort of thing in the next 15 years or so.

As far as I can tell its a combination of 9/11 and the "impending apocolypse" that was supposed to occur in the year 2000 of the gregorian calendar (that didnt exist in the era of Jesus or Moeses or anyof those biblical f4ckers) that has bolstered the resurgent puritanical movemnt. People are afraid and they're making amends for their sinful nature by oppressing their countrymen. Completely understandable when faced with the prospect of being 1 of 4 billion not chosen to live eternally in heaven for ever and ever amen.
 

dahunan

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I find it hilarous that the US was built to get away from Religious Oppression but look at Mullah Bush
 

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Originally posted by: OFFascist
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20.../US/P/00/epolls.0.html

Well according to the CNN poll it seems that about 44% of the Hispanic vote went to Bush.

Its good news for the Republican Party.

They better remember that in the future and not try anything stupid, or else.


Thanks for the link. Also, nice to see a 11% Black vote as well. But you're right. We've got to remember what has attracted them to vote Bush.
 

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The Hispanics I know who voted for Bush are the ones who are 'new' to the country, are poor, and have succumbed to the opiate of religion. The evangelicals go after them hard and win them pretty easily. I don't try to argue with them because they don't even have a that good of a grip on English yet (my assistant at work, for example). They were basically directed to vote for Bush by their churches... and their churches mean everything to them down here.

The Hispanics I know who have been here a long time, going to college, climbing the socio-economic ladder, becoming pinky liberals (lol!) etc, mostly voted for Kerry.

<Hispanic
 

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Originally posted by: Isla
The Hispanics I know who voted for Bush are the ones who are 'new' to the country, are poor, and have succumbed to the opiate of religion.

The Hispanics I know who have been here a long time, going to college, climbing the socio-economic ladder, becoming pinky liberals (lol!) etc, mostly voted for Kerry.

Myself and several of my hispanic friends have been here "a long time", have our degrees, and are climbing the socio-economic ladder ... voted for Bush.

:beer::D
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.

Yep thats the way to court the Hispanic vote right there.

Enjoy being the minority someday.

I'll tell you what, we certainly wont end up like the Blacks, we will run this country someday.

And we wont run it like the chump democrats have been.

LOL, you bastard, you owe me the time it took to clean the coffee off my keyboard.

I lived in Colorado &amp; now live in Texas, the work ethic of hispanics is fvcking awesome, as well as the value placed on family &amp; church.



:thumbsup:
 

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.

Yep thats the way to court the Hispanic vote right there.

Enjoy being the minority someday.

I'll tell you what, we certainly wont end up like the Blacks, we will run this country someday.

And we wont run it like the chump democrats have been.

LOL, you bastard, you owe me the time it took to clean the coffee off my keyboard.

I lived in Colorado &amp; now live in Texas, the work ethic of hispanics is fvcking awesome, as well as the value placed on family &amp; church.



:thumbsup:




:thumbsup: X2 !
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: OFFascist
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Or maybe Bush's tax cut for the wealthiest Americans created more job opportunities for landscape technicians.

Yep thats the way to court the Hispanic vote right there.

Enjoy being the minority someday.

I'll tell you what, we certainly wont end up like the Blacks, we will run this country someday.

And we wont run it like the chump democrats have been.

LOL, you bastard, you owe me the time it took to clean the coffee off my keyboard.

I lived in Colorado &amp; now live in Texas, the work ethic of hispanics is fvcking awesome, as well as the value placed on family &amp; church.
Agreed. While hispanics tend to hold together in their circles, there is a very good work ethic that they demonstrate. Plus, a stronghold for them is that they don't require malt liquor to deal with the pressures of everday life.

;)