Hiring veterans

Dari

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I remember last year, during the debates, President Obama talking about companies needing to hire veterans. I thought it was all politics but it seems like some companies really are doing it. My wife works for a big market research firm and, on Veteran's Day, the place was decked out with American flags as they announced that they would be hiring a lot of former soldiers. She (a foreigner) thinks the company is very patriotic but the cynic in me tells me that there are hefty tax-breaks involved. But, considering that 33% of all homeless people are veterans, this really made my week. Now, a lot of the people at her company are statisticians with advanced degrees so the veterans will mainly be doing analytics work but I'm really happy these soldiers are finding work after years of war.
 

Vdubchaos

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The country that ignores their vets after they return from service is not forcing companies to hire them?

mmmmhhhhmmmmmm
 

rudeguy

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I second that

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CountZero

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Sad but the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have done wonders for the level of respect veterans receive.

According to my dad when he retired from the Navy in 1995 there were places that were openly hostile to the idea of hiring veterans. And when using his Navy Federal card people would give him crap about it.

Now he gets thanked for his service when people find out and he's Navy, not exactly boots on the ground, but respect for military service seems to be much higher these days.

I would add other stuff but since this was in OT and P&N I'll leave it there.
 

lxskllr

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Sad but the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have done wonders for the level of respect veterans receive.

According to my dad when he retired from the Navy in 1995 there were places that were openly hostile to the idea of hiring veterans. And when using his Navy Federal card people would give him crap about it.

Now he gets thanked for his service when people find out and he's Navy, not exactly boots on the ground, but respect for military service seems to be much higher these days.

I would add other stuff but since this was in OT and P&N I'll leave it there.

It hasn't changed that much. Vet's resumes going into the circular file is a real problem today. I'm not sure where I stand on it. I tend to like vets and their work ethic, but many come with personal problems. If I got a vet's resume on my desk, it go towards the top of the pile, but I'd proceed cautiously.
 

pontifex

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places have been doing this for years. this is nothing new or nothing obama created.
 

smackababy

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I saw something for Wal-Mart stating if you had served and were discharged honorably, they'd hire you on the spot.

I think a large problem with veterans getting jobs is a lot of the military work doesn't translate into professional work. The management parts, sure, but getting into management right off the bat isn't likely.
 

Dari

Lifer
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places have been doing this for years. this is nothing new or nothing obama created.

I've never seen or heard about it in New York and the firm seemed to make a big deal about it. Finally, the type of work the firm does is very far away from what most veterans are accustomed to so giving them this opportunity is huge. The hot/sexy byword is "big data" right now so I'm sure it'll look great on their resume.
 

Blackjack200

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I saw something for Wal-Mart stating if you had served and were discharged honorably, they'd hire you on the spot.

I think a large problem with veterans getting jobs is a lot of the military work doesn't translate into professional work. The management parts, sure, but getting into management right off the bat isn't likely.

I can only imagine the excitement of hearing that your 4 years (or more) of service has qualified you to work at Wal-Mart.
 

Gooberlx2

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Hiring combat vets that have killed people is not good.

Kind of a blanket statement don't you think? Sure, hiring a combat vet with severe PTSD may not be good for business if the guy goes apeshit on a customer. Obviously, there do exist plenty of combat vets who are not fucked up and have successfully managed to reintegrate themselves into civilian life.
 

smackababy

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I can only imagine the excitement of hearing that your 4 years (or more) of service has qualified you to work at Wal-Mart.

When your 4 years is spent doing menial labor and driving a bus, what do you expect? The majority of jobs in the military don't really translate to real world job experience. I mean, sure, there are some jobs that translate really easy (MP > Cop, Computer programmer > software developer), but what exactly would an armorer be qualified for? The amount of armories needing people isn't exactly large.

And with this economy, most of the guys getting out have only a high school diploma. I'm sure Wal-Mart is a lot better than starving.
 

JM Aggie08

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If you have the technical and soft skills required to fill a position, by all means hire them.

Using a 'quota' system for vets would end poorly, I suspect.
 

AreaCode707

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I think a large problem with veterans getting jobs is a lot of the military work doesn't translate into professional work. The management parts, sure, but getting into management right off the bat isn't likely.

If you have veteran friends, please feel free to share this site with them to help them translate their military code into civilian professions:

http://jobs2vets.com/
 

smackababy

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If you have veteran friends, please feel free to share this site with them to help them translate their military code into civilian professions:

http://jobs2vets.com/

Everyone (at least in the Air Force) getting out has to go through TAPS (transition assistance program) or something like that. They go over a lot of that, but there is still a ton of jobs that don't have real world applications. Take the Services job in the Air Force. That is anything from handing out towels at the base gym to doing mortuary duties.