Hip Replacement Surgery

Babbles

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So I am lucky in that I am 30 and have to look into getting a hip replacement. It is not medically necessary to have it done immediately, but rather the surgeon basically said it was totally up to me and what quality of life I wish to have.

Luckily I can do some planning and I may opt for my company's premium insurance plan and get into AFLAC prior to doing so. Right now I am thinking about next summer.

Anyhow, anybody care to share their experience and offer advice? Any particular opinions on certain materials?

Thanks!
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I've had a knee replacement which compares in some ways to a hip replacement. I recommend being smart about pain killers so as not to get hooked. Oh and, it's much easier to learn to walk the second time because you know you can do it. :)
 

Dirigible

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I have one mountain biking buddy who had both hips replaced. Still a strong MF-er on the bike.

Another cycling friend had both knees replaced about a year ago. It's taken him a full year to get back to riding and he's not quite where he was before. His rehab was tough and there were times he never thought he'd ride again.

My MIL had a knee replaced recently too.

From what I've seen it's tough. I'd have to be in a lot of pain before doing it. Good luck to you.
 
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Youd be surprised how fast you'll be up and about if things go right. Seeing you are young, your chances of things going right are much better. My mother in law has had both hips done. Due to her age (partly) her femur split during the procedure and that required a 6 month recovery. Bed ridden for months where she was allowed to little more than go to the bathroom.
 

BoomerD

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Thank gawd, NO.

I need a knee replacement, but my doc says I don't hurt bad enough yet...:roll: (thanks Doc!) :D

I do understand his opinion that it's something that should be put off as long as possible, especially since they don't last forever. (they're getting better. IIRC, knees and hips are now expected to last 15-20 years, whereas just 10 years ago, 10 years was considered to be top end of their live expectancy.)

One thing that makes him say I don't hurt badly enough yet, is that I'm not at his office begging for pain killers. I don't like them and would rather endure pain than take the "stupid pills."
zanejohnson I ain't! :D
 

Babbles

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From what I have gathered so far, total knee replacements are much more difficult to recover from compared to hip replacements. Depending on one's situation a hip replacement can be an outpatient procedure. That being said, the surgeon I spoke with said that typically people do stay one night and can be back at work at a desk job in a week.

This stems from some childhood surgeries I had back when I was 6 and 10 so I essentially have been living with chronic arthritis for damn well close to 25 years. I can deal for a while longer, but as the surgeon mentioned it is a quality of life thing.
 

SludgeFactory

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I do understand his opinion that it's something that should be put off as long as possible, especially since they don't last forever. (they're getting better. IIRC, knees and hips are now expected to last 15-20 years, whereas just 10 years ago, 10 years was considered to be top end of their live expectancy.)
This is what I'd be concerned about if you start down the joint replacement road at 30. There are a limited number of times you can do revisions, maybe 2-3 from what I've been told.

But like you said, you have to weigh it against your current quality of life.
 

waggy

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i have had one doc tell me i should get it done. another says yeah but to put it off as long as i can. since im only 33 he really thinks it would be a mistake and damage the quality of life i have latter.

there are replacments out now that are sopposed to last 20-30 years.
 

Slew Foot

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Hip replacements are much easier to recover from then knee surgeries. Youll be a little restricted in your range of motion, and you MUST follow your post op rehab orders to the letter, but most patients feel a LOT better after the procedure.
 

SludgeFactory

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Originally posted by: Babbles
From what I have gathered so far, total knee replacements are much more difficult to recover from compared to hip replacements. Depending on one's situation a hip replacement can be an outpatient procedure.
Generally knee replacements seem to be more painful to recover from and require more rehab. At 30 though, with a hip or knee, you're going to heal like a jack rabbit compared to the usual population for these surgeries.

Not sure what you mean by outpatient for the hip, I think you would be admitted to the hospital for at least a night or two with a hip replacement.
 

Bignate603

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A guy I worked with (in his 30's) fell skiing and popped the head off his femur. It healed badly (something about the blood flow not getting to the part that broke?) and needed to be replaced. The surgeon loved him. After years of putting hips onto geriatric patients he finally got somebody where it would work much better. They use anchors to hold the replacement into your own bone. The surgeon compared anchors on my friend to putting screws into a nice wood. On the old people it was like trying to put a screw into soap, the bone just was too weak.

If you're going to get one, get it when you can still heal. It will be MUCH worse later on.
 

TechAZ

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If you are interested in seeing what will happen, take a look at this:

www.orlive.com

You have to register to the site, it's free though. Once registered go to "Previous Webcasts" and "Browse By Specialty". You will see a few total hip replacements surgeries. They show pretty much the whole surgery for most of the webcasts.

It's a case by case basis, but don't expect to be Ironman after it's done. Good luck.

EDIT: If I remember correctly, it asks which kind of medical professional you are. You know the drill, make something up!
 

gsethi

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My grand-mother had one of her hips replaced about 15 years ago (she is no longer alive though). This was also in India. It took her ~1 week on bed, couple of weeks to learn on how to walk, and couple of months more to be able to walk independently. She used a walking stick for few years also (I think ~2-3).

but again, she was in her 80s when she got her hip replaced and probably weighed like ~120 lbs at the time. The first month was toughest for her and someone from the family (mother/aunt/uncles) were with her at all times. She passed away ~3 of years ago, so her hip lasted her ~10+ years or so..but again, this was ~15 years ago with the surgery done in India. Technology has gotten a lot better now, right ?

If its hurting you a lot and is interfering in your daily routine life, then you should go for it. If it is just an occasional pain, then live with it for as long as you can. My father had a terrible pain in one of his knees couple of years ago to the point that he couldn't even stand and had to take him to ER. After consultations, the doc said that the knee is getting bad but not that bad and it was my father's choice on what to do. My father decided to just take one yearly cortizone (sp?) injection instead of the surgery. He does get an occasional pain in his knee when he is standing for too long but that pain is in no way interfering with his daily routine, so he has decided to put the surgery away as much as possible. He is 60 (overweight) and I think he skipped his injection for this year but is doing fine.
 
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Hey Babbles.

I'm in the same boat as you, although I am 45 and would like to put off surgery another couple years. I played soccer until about 4 years ago, and work as a gardener, so there is alot of wear in the joint, and I have moderately severe osteoarthritis in both hips, bone on bone, you know the story.

Newer procedures for younger patients include metal on metal joints, large head femoral components, and hip resurfacing surgery. The hip resurfacing surgery has been done for 15 or so years in Europe, esp the UK, and involves the removal of much less bone than total hip replacement, which is good for a variety of reasons including making it easier to do revision surgery.

The life expectancy for a replacement hip is 10-15 years, the hope is the current crop of components may last 20 years. That means you are looking at revisions, which is why most surgeons will tell you to wait as long as possible...that's been my experience here in Seattle, including discussions with sports medicine doctors, and soccer friends who are experiencing the same issues.

While it is true that young people have good bone and recover quickly, the prosthetic device will wear, create debris, and cause an inflammatory response that will result in bone loss. My first orthopedic surgeon told it like this...if you get the surgery now, you might be on your 3rd hip by the time you are 65, after that there won't be enough pelvis for another surgery and you will spend the rest life in a bed/chair with no hip.

What is your Harris Hip Scores? Do you walk with a limp? Its crazy to consider this surgery at your age unless you are very bad shape.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: waggy
i have had one doc tell me i should get it done. another says yeah but to put it off as long as i can. since im only 33 he really thinks it would be a mistake and damage the quality of life i have latter.

there are replacments out now that are sopposed to last 20-30 years.

The surgeon told me the parts now are expected to last 20 - 39 years.

What they need to replace, at least with the current prosthetics out there, are the cup and the ball. They do not necessarily have to replace the shaft that The surgeon told me the parts now are expected to last 20 - 39 years.

What they need to replace, at least with the current prosthetics out there, are the cup and the ball. They do not necessarily have to replace the shaft that goes into the femur nor the out titanium fitting that gets shoved into the acetabelum. It is my understanding that those 2 main parts can only be replaces a few times, but the ball and the cup that fits into the acetabular fitting can be replaced as many times as needed.

My concern is basically what type of equipment to look at. This is a bit more serious than picking out a video card (well at least it is for me). Metal on metal seems like a massively bad idea so I am not going with that. I work with a guy who had his hip done at the age of 35 - who is also rather athletic and is still so after his replacement - and he has ceramic on ceramic. The downside is that when he does certain movements you can hear a squeak. Then there are ceramic balls fitted into a cross-linked polyethylene cup which does not squeak, but I am worried about the polyethylene wear particles and potential bio-activity with them. The ceramic particulates are biologically inert which is a good thing.
goes into the femur nor the out titanium fitting that gets shoved into the acetabelum. It is my understanding that those 2 main parts can only be replaces a few times, but the ball and the cup that fits into the acetabular fitting can be replaced as many times as needed.

My concern is basically what type of equipment to look at. This is a bit more serious than picking out a video card (well at least it is for me). Metal on metal seems like a massively bad idea so I am not going with that. I work with a guy who had his hip done at the age of 35 - who is also rather athletic and is still so after his replacement - and he has ceramic on ceramic. The downside is that when he does certain movements you can hear a squeak. Then there are ceramic balls fitted into a cross-linked polyethylene cup which does not squeak, but I am worried about the polyethylene wear particles and potential bio-activity with them. The ceramic particulates are biologically inert which is a good thing.

Originally posted by: gardener
Hey Babbles.

I'm in the same boat as you, although I am 45 and would like to put off surgery another couple years. I played soccer until about 4 years ago, and work as a gardener, so there is alot of wear in the joint, and I have moderately severe osteoarthritis in both hips, bone on bone, you know the story.

Newer procedures for younger patients include metal on metal joints, large head femoral components, and hip resurfacing surgery. The hip resurfacing surgery has been done for 15 or so years in Europe, esp the UK, and involves the removal of much less bone than total hip replacement, which is good for a variety of reasons including making it easier to do revision surgery.

The life expectancy for a replacement hip is 10-15 years, the hope is the current crop of components may last 20 years. That means you are looking at revisions, which is why most surgeons will tell you to wait as long as possible...that's been my experience here in Seattle, including discussions with sports medicine doctors, and soccer friends who are experiencing the same issues.

While it is true that young people have good bone and recover quickly, the prosthetic device will wear, create debris, and cause an inflammatory response that will result in bone loss. My first orthopedic surgeon told it like this...if you get the surgery now, you might be on your 3rd hip by the time you are 65, after that there won't be enough pelvis for another surgery and you will spend the rest life in a bed/chair with no hip.

What is your Harris Hip Scores? Do you walk with a limp? Its crazy to consider this surgery at your age unless you are very bad shape.

To me the hip resurfacing looks like a half-assed thing. Metal on metal is just bad and I am not going to put up with that.

As I noted above, the way I understand it if parts need to be replaced it is only the ball and cup and not the titanium metal fittings - which would be some serious stuff.

I did not take a Harris Hip Score and know nothing of it. When I was a kid I had something called a Slipped Capital Femoral Epiphysis which basically means the ball of my femur slipped from where it should be. It was pinned back in the day, but 20 years later it is still not normal and I have basically zero cartilage in my right hip and not much in my left.

The surgeon did emphasis it is all up to me and is a quality of life questions, but he did play devil advocate and mentioned what would be a reasonable age to get it done. If I were to wait until I was 45 then I essentially pissed away 15 years of my prime life living with pain and limited flexibility. Which, I think, is a very fair and reasonable point.
 

Gooberlx2

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My dad had to have a hip replacement. The ball of his bone was essentially eroded away and loose in the socket. The daily quality of his life drastically improved after surgery.
 

BoomerD

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Don't worry about the metal-on-metal thing with the titanium hip parts. They install a small grease fitting (zerk) in your hip, and you give it a couple of shots of molybdenum grease every 3000 miles...:D
 

MrBond

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Originally posted by: Babbles

Then there are ceramic balls fitted into a cross-linked polyethylene cup which does not squeak, but I am worried about the polyethylene wear particles and potential bio-activity with them. The ceramic particulates are biologically inert which is a good thing.

I used to intern for a company that makes hip replacements (DePuy) in the material development area, if you go with a UHMWPE part there's a chance you could end up with material I helped develop.

From what I understand about the wear particles, they cause ostiolysis - which if I'm remembering correctly is an inflammation kind of like arthritis. One of the main things we were always working towards were materials that resisted wearing and I'd guess the newer materials are pretty good. Like you said, newer hip replacement parts last a lot longer so the materials have to be very good.

I wasn't involved in the ceramics research so I can't speak much about that. We had some very smart people working in the UHMWPE group so I'm sure they've made some good advancements since I left.
 

GagHalfrunt

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My father has had both his hips done and is very happy with the results. Quality of life greatly improves by being able to walk pain free. Healing time is remarkably fast, he's been up out of bed walking with assistance the very next day and able to get around with a cane in a couple of weeks.