Hillary Clinton condemns the arrests of protestors, calls for freedom of expression

[CycloWizard]

So, you know how the Secret Service is run? Please enlighten me.

Guess you've never been on a stage before, You can't see anything beyond the first couple of rows.

By the way, Rumsfeld does not get Secret Service protection and never did. Hillary does, because she's a former First Lady.

Presumably, someone decides how security is run. I will even go so far as to speculate that it's probably someone in the executive branch. That's also the branch the Secretary of State works for. To quote you from earlier in this thread,

Ok, let's apply logic here

 

[boomerang]

Progressive Brownshirts for $1000 Alex.

 

[soundforbjt]

From the Secret Service website:

As part of the Secret Service's mission is preventing an incident before it occurs.

 

[Throckmorton]

Then I'll be wrong about this. How about providing another source (besides something left leaning).

According to him, he was bleeding because of the handcuffs. Probably because he's so old.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-kall/former-cia-agent-ray-mcgo_b_824433.html

 

[Darwin333]

Ok, let's apply logic here, maybe you righties have heard about it.

How was (I assume) security to know this guy was peaceful in his intensions? He could've had a weapon (hard plastic knife would get through metal detectors), he maybe was planning more (no way of knowing if you're security).

Old people bruise easily (guy's in his 70's, IIRC). You also have a better chance to get bruised if you resist. I've been arrested before, did not resist, and no bruising found. Just saying...

ironic, yes, safety of a high ranking official in the light of current events...safety first.

Don't you think that security should be more concerned with people who are actually looking at the person they are securing versus someone who is simply standing with his back to her?

 

[soundforbjt]

Don't you think that security should be more concerned with people who are actually looking at the person they are securing versus someone who is simply standing with his back to her?

How were they (security) supposed to know he wasn't checking the security behind him before he made his move?

 

[Darwin333]

Could've been checking out the security behind in back before he made a move...there's a million ways to look at it, safety first in light of recent events. There was no way for security to know what this guy was doing or thinking.

Same thing applies to the people sitting and clapping, no?

I do not see how going from a seated position to a standing one and then turning your back towards the speaker qualifies you as a hostile threat. I can understand why they would tell him to leave or ask him to sit down and if he failed to comply to throw him out but to try and argue that he made himself look like a threat is absurd.

 

[boomerang]

How were they (security) supposed to know he wasn't checking the security behind him before he made his move?

Your avatar suits you perfectly.

 

[soundforbjt]

Your avatar suits you perfectly.

As do most of your posts suit you perfectly.

This coming from a guy with a quote from Rush in his sig...

 

[Darwin333]

From the Secret Service website:

No way! You mean they actually try to prevent shit from happening?? Really?

Protecting people is one of their largest jobs and that is by definition preventing shit from happening.

 

[soundforbjt]

Same thing applies to the people sitting and clapping, no?

I do not see how going from a seated position to a standing one and then turning your back towards the speaker qualifies you as a hostile threat. I can understand why they would tell him to leave or ask him to sit down and if he failed to comply to throw him out but to try and argue that he made himself look like a threat is absurd.

They maybe could've handled it differently, but we don't know all the facts, nor what instructions were given or by whom or who even did the actions. Until the full story comes out, if it does, then maybe I'll see it differently.

 

[soundforbjt]

No way! You mean they actually try to prevent shit from happening?? Really?

Protecting people is one of their largest jobs and that is by definition preventing shit from happening.

Had to quote that because some people here think they shouldn't react on the side of safety & protection first. Hard to prevent something if you do nothing or the wrong thing.

 

[boomerang]

This coming from a guy with a quote from Rush in his sig...

Truth is truth no matter who speaks it.

 

[soundforbjt]

^^^ Got any oxy for sale? I heard your hero needs some.

 

[WildHorse]

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[Matt1970]

Ok, let's apply logic here, maybe you righties have heard about it.

How was (I assume) security to know this guy was peaceful in his intensions? He could've had a weapon (hard plastic knife would get through metal detectors), he maybe was planning more (no way of knowing if you're security).

Old people bruise easily (guy's in his 70's, IIRC). You also have a better chance to get bruised if you resist. I've been arrested before, did not resist, and no bruising found. Just saying...

ironic, yes, safety of a high ranking official in the light of current events...safety first.

So the proper procedure with anyone that you don't know if they have a weapon or not is to beat the shit out of them? You should listen to yourself sometime.

 

[soundforbjt]

So the proper procedure with anyone that you don't know if they have a weapon or not is to beat the shit out of them? You should listen to yourself sometime.

They didn't beat him. They removed him, and he resisted, causing the bruising on his arms. Old people bruise easily.

Evidence of beating not found.