Hillary buying trying to buy coalminers votes

[pcgeek11]

Now Hillary is openly attempting to buy the coal miners votes after the democrats have been dumping on them for many years.

Hillary Clinton Unveils $30 Billion Plan to Help Coal Towns

Hillary Rodham Clinton, seeking to balance support for new environmental regulations with the effect those rules could have on workers, unveiled a $30 billion plan on Thursday to help coal miners adjust to their changing landscape.

Who says the democrats don't use taxpayer money to buy votes. I just hope that they are smart enough to see what this is.

The plan is part of Mrs. Clinton’s broader agenda on clean energy, and the funds would be intended to help workers affected by any closings of coal-fired power plants, a potential result of new Environmental Protection Agency regulations put in place by the Obama administration.

Mrs. Clinton has suggested that she would add to those regulations and has recently come out against projects such as the Keystone XL oil pipeline, which environmentalists strongly oppose.

Here is 30 billion now we are going to screw you some more.

 

[dawp]

link?

 

[pcgeek11]

Sorry, here is the link:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...n-unveils-30-billion-plan-to-help-coal-towns/

 

[PingviN]

So, supporting those that might get negatively effected by coming changes in policy is buying someone off?

wat

 

[sandorski]

So, supporting those that might get negatively effected by coming changes in policy is buying someone off?

wat

This is American Politics. Unlimited Donor contributions, Donor written Legislation, Tax Cuts to the Donors, and cushy jobs with Donors after leaving Politics is just fine. Making promises to the Voting Public to improve their lives is corruption.

 

[1prophet]

So, supporting those that might get negatively effected by coming changes in policy is buying someone off?

wat

Deeds not words, anyone can say anything and then while in office blame congress when her plan doesn't come through.

 

[fskimospy]

Broadly speaking, this is the definition of smart public policy. Good for her!

Coal is fucking up our planet, and we need to use a lot less of it. That will ruin the livelihood of people in coal mining areas. Smart policy moves us away from coal but also provides opportunities to those negatively affected.

 

[unokitty]

 

[K1052]

Coal should be entirely phased out over the next couple decades. It's a terrible energy source that incurs huge externalized cost in terms of health and environment. Programs that retrain, support, and make the retirements solvent of displaced coal industry workers is good governance not buying people off.

 

[Newell Steamer]

I get it, it's because you think she has a vagina that you are bashing this tactic.

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I am pretty sure she is a man. Plus, she is white. So, you should be fawning over Clinton over this.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is American Politics. Unlimited Donor contributions, Donor written Legislation, Tax Cuts to the Donors, and cushy jobs with Donors after leaving Politics is just fine. Making promises to the Voting Public to improve their lives is corruption.

You seem to get it.

Promising tax cuts isn't buying votes, is it? Repubs' problem there is that they've already milked that one dry for half the population who don't make enough money to pay federal taxes. Not to worry, though, as they'll beat the cash out of working people with higher fees, fines & sales taxes, stuff that leaves the financial elite virtually unmolested.

 

[dank69]

Republicans
A bunch of rich people
convincing poor people
to vote for the rich people
by telling the poor people
that other poor people
are the reason they aren't rich

 

[glenn1]

This is American Politics. Unlimited Donor contributions, Donor written Legislation, Tax Cuts to the Donors, and cushy jobs with Donors after leaving Politics is just fine. Making promises to the Voting Public to improve their lives is corruption.

Please explain how the 99.99% of the rest of us who aren't coal miners have their lives "improved" by this. Just one more proof that when Democrats talk about helping people, it ain't you they mean although it's your money they'll use.

 

[dank69]

Please explain how the 99.99% of the rest of us who aren't coal miners have their lives "improved" by this. Just one more proof that when Democrats talk about helping people, it ain't you they mean although it's your money they'll use.

Less coal pollution?

 

[ivwshane]

Please explain how the 99.99% of the rest of us who aren't coal miners have their lives "improved" by this. Just one more proof that when Democrats talk about helping people, it ain't you they mean although it's your money they'll use.

Cleaner air leads to less health problems, lower unemployment which leads to a stronger economy, better energy policy leads to cheaper alternative energy sources which allows for more competition and lower prices and better alternatives.

You aren't very good at thinking about anything that doesn't directly involve you are you?

 

[PokerGuy]

So, supporting those that might get negatively effected by coming changes in policy is buying someone off?

wat

Basic process: create stupid policy, screw with people's livelyhood. Then, when those people get upset and won't vote for you anymore, turn around and promise government handouts to those people. Rinse, repeat.

Standard politician.

 

[ivwshane]

Basic process: create stupid policy, screw with people's livelyhood. Then, when those people get upset and won't vote for you anymore, turn around and promise government handouts to those people. Rinse, repeat.

Standard politician.

Coal isn't dying because of stupid policies, it's dying because the alternatives were better and cheaper (namely natural gas).

Standard uninformed voter.

 

[brycejones]

Cleaner air leads to less health problems, lower unemployment which leads to a stronger economy, better energy policy leads to cheaper alternative energy sources which allows for more competition and lower prices and better alternatives.

You aren't very good at thinking about anything that doesn't directly involve you are you?

Who cares what the ECO Kooks want? Kids are weak today because they aren't exposed to enough sulfur dioxide and mercury. Plus we should be encouraging the orange industry in Alaska more by warming up the planet. ECO kooks are just another name for commies and we ain't got any use for commies or pinkos.

 

[K1052]

Basic process: create stupid policy, screw with people's livelyhood. Then, when those people get upset and won't vote for you anymore, turn around and promise government handouts to those people. Rinse, repeat.

Standard politician.

So handouts for corporations are ok but handouts for citizens aren't.

Interesting.

 

[K1052]

Coal isn't dying because of stupid policies, it's dying because the alternatives were better and cheaper (namely natural gas).

Standard uninformed voter.

Well it's kind of a triangulation of increased environmental regulation, gas prices, and an industry in self collapse due to bad management. Any which way it's high time we relegated it to the history books.

 

[PokerGuy]

Coal isn't dying because of stupid policies, it's dying because the alternatives were better and cheaper (namely natural gas).

Standard uninformed voter.

Oh, it's not because of policies? Interesting, then why did the EPA mandates have any effect at all? If it was simple market forces at play, the EPA mandates wouldn't have had any impact. Fail.

You can argue about whether the policies are bad or not. Some would say the overall impact is good, some would say not. Regardless, there is no logical argument that the policies don't negatively impact the coal industry. None.

 

[PokerGuy]

Any which way it's high time we relegated it to the history books.

Your argument is "we should get rid of coal, for the overall good". I disagree, but it's a logical argument. Those trying to argue that the policies are not negatively impacting goal are simply delusional.

 

[kage69]

The people of WV have the unfortunate status of being tied to an antiquated and costly form of energy as their main source of income. Staying on coal isn't an option - there are better, cleaner, and in some cases renewable sources of energy that don't create more radioactive waste than the nuclear industry. The coal companies of WV have a sordid history of their own, from the shoddy to non-existant worker safety measures, to the whole "signing bonuses" method of entrapping employees and getting them to forfeit legal and health protections. The guys who run these companies are cut throat bastards, looking to increase that profit margin over everything else.

But, I mean, probably nothing as sleazy and vile as Hillary trying to help WV let go of that anchor. Treading rough economic waters you'd think people would appreciate someone helping the with burden of altering their situation to something a little more viable. Makes me wonder what the whalers were bitching about when we decided we didn't need whale oil for lamps anymore.

Gotta hand it to the usual suspects; instead of trying to make this situation a win based around a solution, they'd rather piss and moan about someone being generous towards something they maintain with their own apathy and self-interest for the sake of politics. They should be happy this is being applied to Americans. The GOP is more interested in giving those kind of breaks to foreign companies and governments.

 

[K1052]

Your argument is "we should get rid of coal, for the overall good". I disagree, but it's a logical argument. Those trying to argue that the policies are not negatively impacting goal are simply delusional.

I could also make the argument that subjecting coal power to environmental standards that other sources of generation have to comply with is simply leveling the economic playing field by ending a government subsidy.

 

[Blackjack200]

Your argument is "we should get rid of coal, for the overall good". I disagree, but it's a logical argument.

We should definitely stick with coal.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=air+quality+in+beijing