Highschool student expelled for a year for having Advil

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what a waste of time, money and effort :disgust:



A student expelled from Parkway High for a year for having Advil, an over-the-counter pain reliever, will not be allowed to return to the school.

Kelly Herpin and daughter Amanda Stiles, a sophomore, appealed the one-year expulsion to a Bossier Parish School Board committee Thursday night, spending about 10 minutes with the board's administrative committee behind closed doors.

The committee and the full board voted unanimously to uphold an administrative decision that Stiles be expelled to the alternative school.

School boards hold such hearings in a closed session, but parents have the right under state law to request that such sessions be open. Herpin didn't make that request but did speak to reporters after the hearing. She left before the board voted on her request but learned of its decision by phone.

"I'm not really sure at this point what we'll do," Herpin said. "I'm going to have to talk to my husband, and we're going to have to make some plans. I'm not sure we could afford a private school. We've been looking at moving to another area."

She would have to sue the School Board to continue fighting the expulsion.

Superintendent Ken Kruithof said after the board meeting that the school system is following a state law that requires a one-year expulsion and being consistent in the system's "zero-tolerance" policy.

But another school official said earlier Thursday that having medication on campus doesn't automatically lead to a one-year expulsion. "After an investigation and a hearing then, if necessary, punishment is administered. It could be no punishment," said Betty McCauley, Bossier schools student services director.

Disciplinary action can range from in-school suspension to placement at the system's alternative school or expulsion from the system. From Aug. 11 through Wednesday, 18 students were sent to the system's alternative school because of possessing "pills," according to a report system officials compiled. However, Kruithof said he didn't know if the category covered nonprescription, prescription and illegal drugs or only nonprescription drugs.

State guidelines define medication as "all prescription and nonprescription drugs," McCauley said Thursday afternoon. McCauley hears discipline appeals from parents dissatisfied with discipline imposed by school principals.

McCauley declined comment after the hearing, referring questions to Kruithof. So did District 11 board member Gary Dowden, who heads the administrative committee.

Kruithof didn't respond directly to questions about McCauley's statements but emphasized that state law requires a one-year expulsion.

Herpin considers Stiles an "average student" in both grades and behavior but said Stiles never got in serious enough trouble to warrant an expulsion. Kruithof said Stiles had other disciplinary incidents in the past but said he didn't know if they resulted in suspensions.

The search of Stiles' purse that turned up the medication came after a tip from a teacher about a student smoking at school. Herpin said her daughter was part of a group that was searched in response to the tip.

Kruithof said a teacher identifed Stiles as the student smoking a cigarette and that Stiles ran into a restroom, where a teacher searched only her purse.

No cigarettes or lighters were found. Stiles was not disciplined for tobacco-related violations.

Students caught smoking usually are suspended.

"I think a one-year expulsion for an over-the-counter medicine is pretty severe," Herpin said.

Stiles said she carried the medicine in her purse because she got frequent headaches.

"I just never thought about the fact that I could be searched. I think we're old enough to know how many (pills) we can take without overdosing or being in danger."
 

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"State guidelines define medication as "all prescription and nonprescription drugs", so they can't have caffeine either?
 

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People everywhere need to lighten the fvck up... seriously...

like that 8 year old sex offender and stuff ?

Relax...
 

Vic

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Jeez... I think the school board should be expelled. :frown::disgust:
 

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Another example of why "zero-tolerance" rules are fscking stupid.

Two cases I can think of here in GA recently:

*kid under 10 suspended because her Tweety-Bird keychain was over a certain length and therefore could be "used as a weapon"

*high school kid working a full-time job as a landscaping laborer in addition to his studies accidentally left a machete in the bed of his truck and wasn't allowed to graduate.


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Ausm

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I could see that happening for bringing aconcealed weapon to school but for Aprin?WTF?

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Originally posted by: nick1985
everyone is way to fvckin liberal these days..
In what respect? Because we all think this is ridiculous or because you think policies like this are appropriate?

 

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Agree that zero tolernece is zero intelligence. Who here is stupid enough to agree with this schools decision?

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not being a devil's advocate but isn't there a thin line between what medication is allowed and what is not ? What if the teen decided to share her pain killer? Suppose she gave it somebody who was turned out to be allergic to it. It might be a far fetched scenerio but can happen.
 

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fusk them this is retarted i carried around a 500 ct bottle of advil all te htime in school. it wa sin my bag. i took it when i needed to. you coudl hear that thing rattle from a mile away. the questioned me and my renst about it and my dad told them to fusk off
 

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Originally posted by: Zombie
not being a devil's advocate but isn't there a thin line between what medication is allowed and what is not ? What if the teen decided to share her pain killer? Suppose she gave it somebody who was turned out to be allergic to it. It might be a far fetched scenerio but can happen.
Well, if you want to look at it that way then the kids shouldn't anything to write with besides crayons. I mean....I could conceivably shank you with a ball-point, right? You have to draw the line somewhere....hopefully somewhere within the boundaries of common sense.

 

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I can get suspended at my school for having cough drops.

Yes, if I am to take cough drops in school I must have a doctor's note, and they must be taken through the office (this means that the lady at the desk has to actually watch me ingest it).
 

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I knew there was a reason why I'd NEVER live in Louisiana. Only thing worth talking about is Mardi Gras... wonder if the kids will be suspended if they wear beads to school b/c they could be used to strangle someone? :disgust:
 

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Originally posted by: Zombie
not being a devil's advocate but isn't there a thin line between what medication is allowed and what is not ? What if the teen decided to share her pain killer? Suppose she gave it somebody who was turned out to be allergic to it. It might be a far fetched scenerio but can happen.

Then deal with it on a case to case basis. Bringing a bullet to school and bringing a fully loaded AK47 should have two different outcomes. But since people are fvcking dumb these days, it doesn't.

KK
 

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Originally posted by: Leejai
i understand zero tolerance, but does that include zero common sense?
That's the whole point of zero tolerance - it removes the need for any common sense or good judgement.

 

Zombie

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don't get me wrong, my first reaction was WTF. But drugs are a tricky thing they can silently react to other stuff that the person might be taking. Besides you never know this kids, what if she OD'ed on school grounds ? I bet you those same parents will be out to sue the school district.
 

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Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: Leejai
i understand zero tolerance, but does that include zero common sense?
That's the whole point of zero tolerance - it removes the need for any common sense or good judgement.
Exactly. God forbid administrators have to actually make a judgement call once in a while.

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: nick1985
everyone is way to fvckin liberal these days..
'Twas the neocons under Nixon and Reagan that escalated the Drug War and started "Zero Tolerance".
Way to be a hypocrite.
Originally posted by: Leejai
i understand zero tolerance, but does that include zero common sense?
Always.
This is not new btw. It happened to someone I knew when I was in high school... in 1988.
 
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Originally posted by: Zombie
not being a devil's advocate but isn't there a thin line between what medication is allowed and what is not ? What if the teen decided to share her pain killer? Suppose she gave it somebody who was turned out to be allergic to it. It might be a far fetched scenerio but can happen.

I could also st@b your eyeballs out with a pen.. What if you're allergic to the plastic in the pen and get a nasty eye socket infection? It's a bit far fetched but it could happen.


edit.. WAIT A MOMENT HERE.. "ST@B" IS A BANNED WORD ON ATOT?