Higher-end receiver for 5.1 set-up

[waterjug]

I'm looking for something with wireless capabilities, (connecting to my home wifi network, not pushing a signal to speakers wirelessly) and bluetooth. (5.1 or 7.1, no preference really). Let's say for under 5,000. I do a lot of car-audio stuff, but never really set-up anything for my home, so I'm trying to get on that now.

Thanks!

 

[Kini1000]

$5,000? You can get a top of the line 11 channel AVR for around $3K and one that does what you want to do for around $400.

 

[Rifter]

for 5k?? seriously? Id either spend 1k on a receiver that does what you want, or for the 5k price run a AV controller and separate amps.

 

[Muadib]

What speakers are you using, waterjug?

 

[mdram]

5k? wow. just pick one
my $300 denon does all those things

5k you can set up a complete 5.1, with speakers and sub included

here ya go
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_642SR7011/Marantz-SR-7011.html

 

[gpse]

I got a Yamaha RX-V781 for Christmas that is working great, lots of power and has pre-outs.

 

[giantpandaman2]

At that price level I'd go pre/pro:

Anthem AVM60 Processor. It has top of the line room correction and excellent uncompressed music streaming over wifi. It also has excellent DAC's. Don't expect video upscaling or what not from it though. This processor can pass through the latest HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0a, but it's focused on audio clarity.

For amplification I'd get a Monoprice 7x200 amp. That will give you clean power for blasting music to the levels that most car audio geeks like. It weighs 93.2 lbs.

 

[waterjug]

What speakers are you using, waterjug?

I'm still working on that portion, I figured I'd start with the receiver.....almost certainly going to have two McIntosh XR100s though.

 

[waterjug]

5k? wow. just pick one
my $300 denon does all those things

5k you can set up a complete 5.1, with speakers and sub included

here ya go
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_642SR7011/Marantz-SR-7011.html

I meant those were the minimum things I was looking for, but thank you, I'm going to have a look at that recevier

 

[waterjug]

At that price level I'd go pre/pro:

Anthem AVM60 Processor. It has top of the line room correction and excellent uncompressed music streaming over wifi. It also has excellent DAC's. Don't expect video upscaling or what not from it though. This processor can pass through the latest HDCP 2.2 and HDMI 2.0a, but it's focused on audio clarity.

For amplification I'd get a Monoprice 7x200 amp. That will give you clean power for blasting music to the levels that most car audio geeks like. It weighs 93.2 lbs.

Yeah I'm looking for audio clarity here, I don't really need vid upscaling, I'll have a look, thanks!

 

[Muadib]

I agree with giantpandaman2. You should be looking at separates.

 

[alcoholbob]

Unless you are space challenged. Otherwise a top of the line receiver like the Yamaha RX-A3060 should work out for you, and save you a lot of cash.

Some of the flagships have been getting suspiciously light and I suspect (often correctly via soundandvision reviews) that the amp section on some of these flagships are a bit dubious.

 

[Meghan54]

Some ideas, both around budget or a bit more.....

First, the NAD Master series, the M17 AV preamp and the M27 7 ch. amp. Excellent reviews on excellent equipment.
http://nadelectronics.com/products/masters-series

(For the record: I'm sorta partial to NAD...I'm using an NAD T757 for my main receiver--I went 2.1 for my main sound system. I'm a Luddite, sue me. )

There there's the Parasound Halo series...like the P7, a 7.1 pre-amp, and the A 51, a five ch. amp. Good equipment.
http://www.parasound.com/p7.php
http://www.parasound.com/a51.php#

Rotel RSP-1572 processor http://www.rotel.com/product/rsp-1572
Rotel RMB-1585 5-ch. amp http://www.rotel.com/product/rmb-1585

Bryston 9BSST2 5-ch amp. http://www.bryston.com/products/power_amps/9BSST-2.html

Heard this Marantz MM8077 7-ch. amp is supposed to be darned good, too.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_642MM...83&awdv=c&awkw=+marantz++mm8077&awmt=b&awnw=g


It's a start.

 

[DaveSimmons]

>> Heard this Marantz MM8077 7-ch. amp is supposed to be darned good, too.

I'm too cheap to spend more than $500-600 on a receiver, but I just wanted to mention that Crutchfield is a good place to buy from. They are 100% authorized for mail order sales so there are never any warranty issues, and their customer service is top-notch.

You might find a component cheaper elsewhere, but if so be very careful about making sure they're really authorized to sell it in the US by mail. Sometimes a 33rd Ave PhotoHutt will say "has full warranty" but they mean a "house" warranty not with the manufacturer, and once their warranty runs out you find out it's grey market.

 

[waterjug]

Some ideas, both around budget or a bit more.....

First, the NAD Master series, the M17 AV preamp and the M27 7 ch. amp. Excellent reviews on excellent equipment.
http://nadelectronics.com/products/masters-series

(For the record: I'm sorta partial to NAD...I'm using an NAD T757 for my main receiver--I went 2.1 for my main sound system. I'm a Luddite, sue me. )

There there's the Parasound Halo series...like the P7, a 7.1 pre-amp, and the A 51, a five ch. amp. Good equipment.
http://www.parasound.com/p7.php
http://www.parasound.com/a51.php#

Rotel RSP-1572 processor http://www.rotel.com/product/rsp-1572
Rotel RMB-1585 5-ch. amp http://www.rotel.com/product/rmb-1585

Bryston 9BSST2 5-ch amp. http://www.bryston.com/products/power_amps/9BSST-2.html

Heard this Marantz MM8077 7-ch. amp is supposed to be darned good, too.
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_642MM8077/Marantz-MM8077.html?tp=180&awcp=1t1&awcr=105374185283&awdv=c&awkw=+marantz++mm8077&awmt=b&awnw=g


It's a start.

thanks! I'll have to check this out too!

 

[mdram]

i would suggest a trip to avsforums

they can definitely help spend your money

 

[sdifox]

What are the dimensions of the space? With that kind of budget you should be looking at separates with atmos.

Research emotiva and outlaw. Yamaha Aventage looks interesting as well.

Example not endorsement

http://outlawaudio.com/products/av7703.html

I do have Outlaw's first amp 770 and a Marantz AV 9000.

Ancient hardware, but just dont have time to even put my ht back together.

They have been in boxes since nov 2011

 

[sdifox]

>> Heard this Marantz MM8077 7-ch. amp is supposed to be darned good, too.

I'm too cheap to spend more than $500-600 on a receiver, but I just wanted to mention that Crutchfield is a good place to buy from. They are 100% authorized for mail order sales so there are never any warranty issues, and their customer service is top-notch.

You might find a component cheaper elsewhere, but if so be very careful about making sure they're really authorized to sell it in the US by mail. Sometimes a 33rd Ave PhotoHutt will say "has full warranty" but they mean a "house" warranty not with the manufacturer, and once their warranty runs out you find out it's grey market.

Depends on what you are buying. I haven't checked lately but I find Crutchfield lacking. Also, squaretrade exists

 

[krumme]

Imo the quality of the room correction is of most importance. Priority to that. Do no what rocks this time but the avs forum guys will.
Get some damn good speakers gladly with some difuse or dipole pattern especially for the rear. Do you have soeakers already?
I wouldnt pay to much attention to dacs or amps. As long as the amp van drive the speaker it is perfectly fine.
A class d amp for the sub is okey if you use a sub.
I would also go a long stretch to get color neutral screen.

 

[rchunter]

I'd be looking at Parasound separates they make some pretty nice stuff that doesn't cost a fortune. Or just a receiver like Yamaha RX-A3060 and then use the pre-outs to run separate amps on your 3 front channels.

 

[slashbinslashbash]

IMO once you get above around the $5k range for a system, spending money on expertise matters as much or more than spending money on equipment. A $10k pair of speakers in a bad room can sound worse than a $1000 pair of speakers in a well-designed and treated room. Better to spend the $9k on a contractor/consultant who knows what they're doing and can remodel the room to make it sound better. If I had $15k to spend on a system (audio only) it'd probably be like this:

$9000 - room treatment, planning, remodeling, sound isolation, power upgrades, etc.
$2000 - subs
$3000 - other speakers
$1000 - receiver

The electronics are the least critical part of the system, the most easily replaced, and the most likely to need to be replaced within 5 years (as new codecs or technologies come along).

 

[sdifox]

5k? wow. just pick one
my $300 denon does all those things

5k you can set up a complete 5.1, with speakers and sub included

here ya go
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_642SR7011/Marantz-SR-7011.html

I spent C$6,900 on speakers alone back in 1999 :awe:

 

[mdram]

I spent C$6,900 on speakers alone back in 1999 :awe:

i couldnt justify that
i cant hear the difference between something that is 1-2k a set and that price

 

[BarkingGhostar]

I'm still working on that portion, I figured I'd start with the receiver.....almost certainly going to have two McIntosh XR100s though.

And yet you come to Anandtech for your high-end audio questions and answers. Troll

 

[Pacfanweb]

Find you a good, used 5 channel amp. I use an Anthem, have had it for years. Has more power than any living room would ever need.

Then buy the least expensive receiver that has pre-outs that you can find from Yamaha or Pioneer.

With a few exceptions, what you're paying for when you start spending thousands on a receiver is power....and if you already have a separate amp, (which no receiver's amp section will ever match) you don't need it...it's a waste.

Spending a bit over $2k on a B&K preamp back in 2004 broke me of the "expensive is better" thought process.
What really did it was a few years later, when HDMI was what you needed, and my $2k pre-pro didn't have it.
You have to just accept that whatever you buy will be obsolete in 5 years or less. So back in 04, I bought that used amp and have been plugging different processors into it ever since.
After the B&K came a used Pioneer VSX-1120K that I picked up for $175 off Craiglist. Worked great until last summer when lightning hit the house.
Then an Onkyo TX-NR708....it sucked. Sound was a huge drop off from the Pioneer, but again, used for less than $200 off Craigslist.

Now have a Yamaha Aventage RX-A1040, another Craigslist deal ($300) and it's fantastic.

Point is, if you are going to dedicate $5k to this, just get an awesome amplifier, and go less expensive on the receiver....get the least expensive one that has preamp outs on it and the other features you want. Buying a more expensive one isn't going to sound better, it's just going to have more power...for the most part.
And you'll never get your money's worth (IMO) from a $2k+ receiver that will be obsolete and you'll want to replace 5 years from now.

New features come out in a few years? Buy a new receiver, the least expensive one with those desired features, and plug it into your existing amp.