HighEnd Storage Solution?

[XZerg]

Hi Guys,

I wanted to know if there is some high-end storage solutions that can achieve 1GB/s performance via whatever means possible. The solution should support 2TB of data and should not cost more than $300,000 US.

If you could help me find that it would be nice.

 

[aug1516]

That would be crazy fast speeds. I can't wait to see if anyone posts a solution.

 

[Farmer]

Originally posted by: XZerg
Hi Guys,

Well, 2nd gen SATA is theoretically 3 Gb/s, but not really.

I wanted to know if there is some high-end storage solutions that can achieve 1GB/s performance via whatever means possible. The solution should support 2TB of data and should not cost more than $300,000 US.

If you could help me find that it would be nice.

Those are some high demands, but with $300000 to spend, I guess anything is possible, including FC.

It's actually a bit insane; that number is 5 times the amount of our annual IT budget, and we run 7 Xeon servers with some 2TB of storage, but only on Ultra 320 SCSI.

 

[GMtheBest]

You will most likely be looking at a SAN solution for those speeds.

 

[XZerg]

I think I found the solution... its basically Grid Storage. [Clusters based Storage topped with say vRAID5]

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: XZerg
Hi Guys,

I wanted to know if there is some high-end storage solutions that can achieve 1GB/s performance via whatever means possible. The solution should support 2TB of data and should not cost more than $300,000 US.

If you could help me find that it would be nice.

The only thing I could think of that could do that would be some kind of Fibre channel-connected SAN box.

Adaptec SANbloc 2Gb RAID
Costs about $15-20K

 

[Farmer]

I forgot to ask, why do you need such performance?

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: XZerg
Hi Guys,

I wanted to know if there is some high-end storage solutions that can achieve 1GB/s performance via whatever means possible. The solution should support 2TB of data and should not cost more than $300,000 US.

If you could help me find that it would be nice.

The only thing I could think of that could do that would be some kind of Fibre channel-connected SAN box.

Adaptec SANbloc 2Gb RAID
Costs about $15-20K

But you'd still have to purchase some storage drives for that enclosure. FC drives can cost maybe $1100 for 146GB?

 

[Mickey21]

Just give EMC a call, they can set you up with as much speed and as much storage as possible. You seem to have the type of money they demand... I wouldnt waste time with end users when a corporate solution seems to be what you want...

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: Farmer
I forgot to ask, why do you need such performance?

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: XZerg
Hi Guys,

I wanted to know if there is some high-end storage solutions that can achieve 1GB/s performance via whatever means possible. The solution should support 2TB of data and should not cost more than $300,000 US.

If you could help me find that it would be nice.

The only thing I could think of that could do that would be some kind of Fibre channel-connected SAN box.

Adaptec SANbloc 2Gb RAID
Costs about $15-20K

But you'd still have to purchase some storage drives for that enclosure. FC drives can cost maybe $1100 for 146GB?

The 300GB 10K FC drives are ~ $1K. The 146 GB 15K FC's are about $1200 a piece, so you're looking at another ~$12-15K for the drives, ~$30K total. Still well withing $300K budget. Hell, I'd daisy chain ten of them for $300K!

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: Farmer
I forgot to ask, why do you need such performance?

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: XZerg
Hi Guys,

I wanted to know if there is some high-end storage solutions that can achieve 1GB/s performance via whatever means possible. The solution should support 2TB of data and should not cost more than $300,000 US.

If you could help me find that it would be nice.

The only thing I could think of that could do that would be some kind of Fibre channel-connected SAN box.

Adaptec SANbloc 2Gb RAID
Costs about $15-20K

But you'd still have to purchase some storage drives for that enclosure. FC drives can cost maybe $1100 for 146GB?

The 300GB 10K FC drives are ~ $1K. The 146 GB 15K FC's are about $1200 a piece, so you're looking at another ~$12-15K for the drives, ~$30K total. Still well withing $300K budget. Hell, I'd daisy chain ten of them for $300K!

That'd be 20TB, and why daisy chain when you got RAID? RAID5 10 together to get even FASTER speeds.

 

[Crescent13]

how about this?

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: Crescent13
how about this?

Holy Sh1tballs! "Requires 2,500 watts of power." Nice! If you you sustain an 80GB transfer, does it warp you to the past?

 

[Fresh Daemon]

Just give EMC a call, they can set you up with as much speed and as much storage as possible.

Seconded. Few to no people here will have any experience with such a setup, I know I don't. If you can afford up to $300k, you can afford to spend a little of that for a consultant. Ask someone who designs such setups for a living.

Maybe give SUN a call. Their website boasts "Data Center Storage" up to 330TB and starting from $245,947. Sounds up your alley, and SUN know all about this kind of thing. IBM has similar kinds of solutions. I would go with one of them because if your budget is up to $300,000, you want a reputable company with lots of experience, who's well-established in the market and can give you the service and support you'll need.

 

[sparkyclarky]

How come I have the feeling that this guy is jerking us around. I'd suspect that anyone who would need this sort of storage solution would know enough to call up the big boys and ask....

edit: It seems he's legit given the post below. My apologies to the OP.

 

[XZerg]

i ain't jerking around... serious stuff...

the Tera RAMSAN, how much is that going for?
the clients want us to improve the performance and I/O is one of our biggest bottlenecks. To clients if processing data [~1TB which they don't care how big] takes over couple of hours, it is slow and inefficient. Currently we are running things that take over 19+ hours of processing. So that basically ties up a day. And that needed to be redone due to some changes, you can see how this would get on their nerves. This is a financial institute, so time is money.

Let me give you more information as to why I have posted this request:
There is a company named Netezza, who is pitching one of their products, 8050, at us. This is a pure Database Storage solution, end to end [hardware to software specifically designed]. The performance #s look good, but we want something to compare against. From the concept of the product, I can say that what they have done applied the clusters concept and minituarized it.

The Cons of the system are: properitary software and hardware; No programmable query processing support [PL/SQL, ...] ie only SQL'92 support; is only meant as a database solution which only solves portion of the problem as there are other time consuming processing needed to be done.
The Pros of the system are: Simple clusters high performance database solution.

I am trying to pitch to my manager that it would make more sense into buying a storage cluster or similar products to improve our I/O performance and this will affect all the components we run, ie not just the DB component. Basically I am vouching for 65% budget spent on a storage cluster and 35% of the budget spent on the processing power, ie memory and cpu.

so $227,500 for storage cluster; $122.5 on processing power and well this would also need to pay for software and other hardware.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: Crescent13
how about this?

Holy Sh1tballs! "Requires 2,500 watts of power." Nice! If you you sustain an 80GB transfer, does it warp you to the past?

Holy sh!t. I wonder how much heat it puts out.

 

[Oyeve]

Bet theres no corsair VS in there.

 

[ValuedCustomer]

Like other posters I'd highly recommend EMC2 - we've got a row of 10 or 12 DMX racks at work (nothin' to do w/ me, btw) that the raised-floor admins here seem to think are gifts from God. and they ain't cheap.. check it

 

[theMan]

Originally posted by: Crescent13
how about this?

OMFG. thats all i can say *jaw drops*

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: XZerg
i ain't jerking around... serious stuff...

the Tera RAMSAN, how much is that going for?
the clients want us to improve the performance and I/O is one of our biggest bottlenecks. To clients if processing data [~1TB which they don't care how big] takes over couple of hours, it is slow and inefficient. Currently we are running things that take over 19+ hours of processing. So that basically ties up a day. And that needed to be redone due to some changes, you can see how this would get on their nerves. This is a financial institute, so time is money.

Let me give you more information as to why I have posted this request:
There is a company named Netezza, who is pitching one of their products, 8050, at us. This is a pure Database Storage solution, end to end [hardware to software specifically designed]. The performance #s look good, but we want something to compare against. From the concept of the product, I can say that what they have done applied the clusters concept and minituarized it.

The Cons of the system are: properitary software and hardware; No programmable query processing support [PL/SQL, ...] ie only SQL'92 support; is only meant as a database solution which only solves portion of the problem as there are other time consuming processing needed to be done.
The Pros of the system are: Simple clusters high performance database solution.

I am trying to pitch to my manager that it would make more sense into buying a storage cluster or similar products to improve our I/O performance and this will affect all the components we run, ie not just the DB component. Basically I am vouching for 65% budget spent on a storage cluster and 35% of the budget spent on the processing power, ie memory and cpu.

so $227,500 for storage cluster; $122.5 on processing power and well this would also need to pay for software and other hardware.

In that case, definitely ring up EMC. They'll make a custom end-to-end that will encompass your entire project's needs.