High School Students throw kegger. Everybody passes breathalyzer test.

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The Zebro home in Kronenwetter showed all the signs of an underage drinking party March 1: cars blocking the road, dozens of rowdy kids and a keg.

And yet, every partyer's breath test revealed an alcohol-free gathering.

Dustin Zebro, 18, and his friends said they threw the party after D.C. Everest High School administrators suspended their friends from sports.

"We didn't know it would work well enough to make the cops show up," Zebro said of the plan to poke fun at the administrators by throwing a root beer kegger.

However amusing, the event -- which partyers posted on the video Web site YouTube -- highlights serious differences in attitudes about underage drinking.

Zebro and his friends said they think underage drinking is between students and police, not schools.

Principal Tom Johansen disagrees.

"I think we have an obligation as an educational institution," he said, explaining that schools investigate cases of underage drinking carefully. Violations at school can lead to suspension or expulsion, while those at other venues can lead to expulsions from sports.

Debra Burgess, drug free communities coordinator for the Wausau School District, said the root beer party, and its motivations, downplay the consequences of underage drinking, which include harmful decisions and stalled brain development.

Zebro's mother, Ruthie, said she didn't know the motivation behind the gathering.

She also said a group on the social networking Web site Facebook that suggests she supports underage drinking is easily misunderstood. Although they had no proof, Everest Metro police have spoken to Ruthie Zebro about anonymous complaints they received about her hosting an underage drinking party.

"I don't promote it," she said.

But a drinking age of 21, she said, isn't fair with kids going to war at 18.

Burgess said there's little room for mixed messages.

"Parental approval or disapproval is often more powerful than we realize," she said.

Heh. I'll give them points for creativity.
 

Aikouka

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I've never really understood how schools get involved in activities that happen off school grounds.
 

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The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.
 

AMDZen

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Debra Burgess, drug free communities coordinator for the Wausau School District, said the root beer party, and its motivations, downplay the consequences of underage drinking, which include harmful decisions and stalled brain development.

If this is their excuse for stepping in at high school party's, what exactly do they think about college when school actually matters - and when its universally agreed that its the time to party like a rock star.

Its a cliche, but if you're old enough to die for your country, blah blah blah. Drinking is part of HS once you're 18 especially, get over it. This is just a good thing, let them waste their tax dollars sending cops to every root-beer party in town and maybe they'll stop interferring. The student is 100% correct, if its against the law and happening on the weekend off of school grounds, its between the cops and the law breakers.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od...tion/a/drinkingage.htm
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base.

Things must have changed in the last decade, then. AFAIK, that only applied when you were stationed in another country with a lower drinking age.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

Why not 40? That would be even safer. Hell, why not only on Saturdays from 4pm to 12 pm?

The drinking age needs to be 18 because 18 is when you're an adult, end of story.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: Baloo
Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

Yea that makes a lot of sense because as we all know, no young teen boys would ever break the law and drink alcohol before they can legally. Saying that it should be 25 is by far the most ignorant thing I've read all day.

Do some research and tell me why every single other civilized nation on the planet has a lower drinking age then the states, and yet they have the same or, more often fewer incidents involving alcohol.
 

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base.

Things must have changed in the last decade, then. AFAIK, that only applied when you were stationed in another country with a lower drinking age.

Simple solution.

Dont enlist until your 21.

Never overlook the simple choice. ;)
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

Why not 40? That would be even safer. Hell, why not only on Saturdays from 4pm to 12 pm?

The drinking age needs to be 18 because 18 is when you're an adult, end of story.

Sounds good to me. I also like the idea of Auto-Conscription at 65. I wonder how many Politicians would rush into War then? Plus it gives a whole new meaning to Retirement. It's a Win-win!!
 

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
They should have used O'Douls.

Couldn't they still get in trouble for that? I thought "non-alcoholic" beer still contained a small amount of alcohol.
 

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

Why not 40? That would be even safer. Hell, why not only on Saturdays from 4pm to 12 pm?

The drinking age needs to be 18 because 18 is when you're an adult, end of story.

Sounds good to me. I also like the idea of Auto-Conscription at 65. I wonder how many Politicians would rush into War then? Plus it gives a whole new meaning to Retirement. It's a Win-win!!

There's already a book about that - Old Man's War
 

Mr Pickles

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Sorry, I couldn't get past:

The Zebro home in Kronenwetter showed all the signs of an underage drinking party March 1: cars blocking the road, dozens of rowdy kids and a keg.

Where is the underage in that? Stupid writers.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

Missing the point I think. If at 18 you are responsible enough to be trusted by the US Govt to enlist in the armed forces, drive a car, and vote for the president, you should be trusted to drink. Simple.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

Why not 40? That would be even safer. Hell, why not only on Saturdays from 4pm to 12 pm?

The drinking age needs to be 18 because 18 is when you're an adult, end of story.

Sounds good to me. I also like the idea of Auto-Conscription at 65. I wonder how many Politicians would rush into War then? Plus it gives a whole new meaning to Retirement. It's a Win-win!!

I dunno, I plan to cultivate a heroin addiction in my 60's. Maybe at 70 though.
 

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

Why not 40? That would be even safer. Hell, why not only on Saturdays from 4pm to 12 pm?

The drinking age needs to be 18 because 18 is when you're an adult, end of story.

QFT, so i can have an M4A be overseas possibly dying for my country but I can't have a beer? Ridiculous
 

bGIveNs33

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base.

Things must have changed in the last decade, then. AFAIK, that only applied when you were stationed in another country with a lower drinking age.

Definitely no drinking underage on base domestically. There are a few rare circumstances where the base commander will lower the drinking age for a special event... i.e. ball etc. And some bases right next to Mexico(Ft. Bliss... the article is wrong, you can still drink at 18) they allow to drink alcohol on base, but I don't think you can purchase it for consumption at home. I live in dorms on base and having alcohol in your room/car/patio area just got completely banned.... regardless of your age.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: MrLee
Sorry, I couldn't get past:

The Zebro home in Kronenwetter showed all the signs of an underage drinking party March 1: cars blocking the road, dozens of rowdy kids and a keg.

Where is the underage in that? Stupid writers.

:confused:
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base. Also, While I agree the school has no place policing activities off school grounds, the drinking age needs to be 21. Young teen boys are impulsive and reckless enough without the addition of alcohol. Twenty-five would be better though, those young men tend to mature about then.

I sure would have loved to join that branch of the US military. The one I joined had a drinking age of 21.

 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: bGIveNs33
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Baloo
The comment about the 21 yr drinking age and going to war at 18 is misleading. the military has no drinking age. while they can't buy off base, they can buy all they want on base.

Things must have changed in the last decade, then. AFAIK, that only applied when you were stationed in another country with a lower drinking age.

Definitely no drinking underage on base domestically. There are a few rare circumstances where the base commander will lower the drinking age for a special event... i.e. ball etc. And some bases right next to Mexico(Ft. Bliss... the article is wrong, you can still drink at 18) they allow to drink alcohol on base, but I don't think you can purchase it for consumption at home. I live in dorms on base and having alcohol in your room/car/patio area just got completely banned.... regardless of your age.

Did somebody just screw everything up for everyone else? :p
There was alcohol a-plenty when I was in the dorms, and it was fine as long as you were of age.