High school spanish classes- worth taking 4th year?

eflat

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I have to decide by tomorrow whether or not to continue onto Spanish 4. Is it a waste of time? Have any of you guys actually used any of the Spanish you learned, or did you just forget it? I'm afraid I am wasting my time and will quickly forget all that I learned. Any thought?
 

Ryan

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I've gone up to Spanish 5, and I am taking AP spanish next semester. I think it's worth it. It just depends. I know a lot of people forget most of it, if they don't use it on a daily basis. So, if you aren't using it very much, I guarantee you'll forget it. In my case, half of my family is spanish, and I have a lot of spanish friends, so I use it often.
 

Rakkis

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it depends if you're planning to go to college
and then to the specific requirements of the school you attend
and then in how well you knwo the language

at UCI we take placement tests to see what quarters we can skip. do well enough and you dont have to take any classes at all.
but some schools just give you 1 quarter of credit per year.

luckily you can avoid all the hassle by taking an SAT II exam in most cases
 

RichieZ

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No unless you take AP Spanish 5 so you can take teh AP test and skip it in college
 

RossMAN

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My sister graduated from high school in 1999. She took 3 years of Spanish and hasn't used any of it in college or at work. It does look pretty on a college application, transcript or resume though.

If you are really interested in the language and culture then I suggest taking the 4th year. But ONLY if you plan on using the language in your personal life or at work. Bilingual people always have the upper hand and are in need. My bank will pay me to learn a second language and I'll probably get a (tiny) increase in pay as well.

So if you are genuinely interested in the language, intend on actually USING IT and want to make some $ then go for it. Otherwise dump it and take sex ed ;)
 

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Maybe, if you go to college and a language is required, you may be exempt with four years of Spanish in high school. At least, that's how it in my college. I took three years of Spanish in high school. After two years in college, I took a placement test for Spanish and I got placed into the second level out of four (equivalent to having done only one year of Spanish in HS), so I have forgotten a lot of Spanish. So yes, it could be worth it.
 

b0mbrman

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If you use it on a daily basis, then that's much better practice than taking a high school class on it
 

RossMAN

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If you use it on a daily basis, then that's much better practice than taking a high school class on it

So you're saying find a hot Spanish girlfriend then marry her? Good idea!
 

eflat

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Well, I'm still not sure where I am going to college, so it's likely that I might have to take more in college. So maybe I should continue, just so I don't forget everything.. I really don't want to make more work for myself in the future by skipping a year of Spanish in high school.
 

igowerf

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I took 3 years of spanish and it was enough to get me into UCLA (decided to go to UC San Diego instead though).
 

Rakkis

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igowerf:

my point is not to GET into a university
what i meant to say was that once you're in you might need to fulfill a second language requirement. and doing more in HS might help you to not have to do it at all in college if you're pressed for class space
 

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anyone can take the any AP test. if your school says you need a certain number of years to take the AP test they are in violation of the test's regulations.

as for the credit... your fourth year will probably get you some more verb tenses and vocabulary. the tenses are actually pretty easy to pick up, they're not very complicated. the extra year might increase your AP score by one... see what kind of credit you get from the AP test at your preferred colleges. i know mine gave tons of credit for even low scores on the test, a 4 was an automatic minor and more than 20 hours of credit. the spanish AP combined with the two SAT IIs they gave at orientation pushed some people into sophmore range before even taking one class.
 

eflat

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So, I could..

1. Take Spanish 4 and possibly pass the AP Test (very very unlikely) and at least have Spanish fresh in my mind if I have to take some classes in college, which it sounds like I probably will.

2. Skip Spanish 4, since it's unlikely I will pass the AP test with 4 years and just take the easiest Spanish class offered when I have to take it in college. I'm just woried that I will forget so much over a couple years that I'm going to do poorly no matter what class I take. I don't want to kill me GPA with a stupid class like Spanish. Spanish has always been a real struggle for me, so I'm worried I might not be able to survive a college class. My dad always tells me stories about how he would have had a 4.0 in college if it weren't for all the D's he got in French.

How bad are first year Spanish classes in college? Looking through a college catalog, it said passing the AP test was the worth taking Spanish 104 and 204. So, would 104 be all that bad?
 

Mday

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take whatever you can, take the freaking AP, get college credit. mandatory language is annoying. however, taking a language for fun is good.

unless you use spanish con sus amigos, you won't remember nada mas que you know now.

however, it's a plus if you wanna go study abroad in some country worth going to. like spain, but then you gotta do catalan dialect of spanish.
 

Logix

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Only take Spanish 4 if one of these two items applies to you:

1.) You really, really like learning another language and all the work that goes along with it.
2.) You plan on taking AP Spanish 5.

The AP class looks good on college applications, and if you score decently on the AP exam (a 3 isn't that hard), you can get some credits toward your college degree before you even enter college. I got 5.3 units toward the 120 I need to graduate by getting a 3 on that AP. And, the $88 or whatever is a lot cheaper than paying for an equivalent college course.

EDIT: I've forgotten most of the Spanish I've learned, but I don't care. I had a really nice teacher who didn't give a lot of work, but it also meant I didn't learn as much. Yet, I managed a 3 on the AP, so you shouldn't have too much trouble.

Also, at my university, you only need 3 years of high school Spanish to pass out of the foreign language requirement. So, check your intended-college's requirements before making a decision.
 

mithrandir2001

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Because I took 4 years of Spanish in HS, I automatically fulfilled my language requirement at college. From what I've heard from others, college-level Language classes SUCK big time.
 

eflat

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Well, maybe I'll just hang out in the class for a week and see if I'm having fun or not. If I am, I'll sign up and if it's a drag, I'll just get to go home at 12:00 every day :) Maybe I'll just try to read about 30 minuets of Spanish every week so I don't forget anything.