High school football coach suspended after blowing out another team..

[Cruisin1]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chuckywang
So you want him to tell his players to quit scoring?

Running up the score in a blowout IS considered bad sportsmanship. He could teach his kids something about that maybe.

Apparently you don't watch college football? Bad sportsmanship... pulease.... he had his third string out there!! It is completely rediculous to tell you players to not play on the field... Have a mercy rule then. If the other team sucks that bad what are you suppose to do, stop before you get to the endzone... Thats not football thats just rediculous.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I was going to comment that maybe he didn't put third string in until it was 49-0, then I RTF.

Against Bassick, a team that has not won since 2001, Bridgeport Central had a 35-0 lead at the end of the first quarter. By the second quarter, Cadelina was already emptying his bench, but Bridgeport Central took a 49-0 lead into halftime. With the starters long removed from the game and with the team no longer passing, Bridgeport scored again, going ahead, 56-0, in the third quarter.

The problem here is that bassick should not have been in that league to begin with if they havent won a game since 2001

High School Football is rarely fair because you have to deal with the players that you have. You can't recruit (at least you aren't supposed to) or sign other players to come in. If your team starts a bad run, it gets progressively more difficult every year to get kids to try out for the football team.

There was a game a couple of weeks ago that I was listening to on the radio where two schools of the same size were playing and one was beating the tar out of the other. The winning team had around 60 players on the squad while the losing team was having to dress out JV players just so they could bring 30 players to the stadium.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chuckywang
So you want him to tell his players to quit scoring?

Running up the score in a blowout IS considered bad sportsmanship. He could teach his kids something about that maybe.

mugs read the fvckign story and shut your mouth.... the other team was so bad his 3rd stringers were scoring ...

why dont people ever read..

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chuckywang
So you want him to tell his players to quit scoring?

Running up the score in a blowout IS considered bad sportsmanship. He could teach his kids something about that maybe.

He was playing his third string players. The coach was doing everything he could to not try to run up the score if he's playing his third string.

Then he has nothing to worry about:

It will be up to the three-person panel to decide whether Cadelina should be suspended, but Mosa said that Cadelina?s efforts to keep the score down would be considered.

That panel understands the intent of the rule. If he put his 2nd and 3rd string guys in when it was apparant they had won (like 28-0 or 21-0), I think he'll be fine. If he put them in when the score was 49-0, then he wasn't acting in a very sportsman-like way.

Edit: Nevermind, someone already posted that the score was at most 35-0 when he started putting his 2nd and 3rd stringers in.

They only managed to score once in the second half, so I wonder he much of the first half he was playing his 3rd stringers though.

28-0 does not mean the game is over.

so he put his 3rd string in at halftime. i doubt he left the 1st string in the whole game. 2nd string was probably in and helped run it up.

if anything they should suspend the loseing couch. he is doing a very bad job..

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chuckywang
So you want him to tell his players to quit scoring?

Running up the score in a blowout IS considered bad sportsmanship. He could teach his kids something about that maybe.

No it isn't. It's considered bad sportsmanship to run up the score and then taunt the other team, or maybe to put in your best guys just for the sake of running up the score, but if you're allowing your 3rd string guys a chance to compete, then it's just sports.

 

[loup garou]

Oh, blowing out. I read that wrong. :Q

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I was going to comment that maybe he didn't put third string in until it was 49-0, then I RTF.

Against Bassick, a team that has not won since 2001, Bridgeport Central had a 35-0 lead at the end of the first quarter. By the second quarter, Cadelina was already emptying his bench, but Bridgeport Central took a 49-0 lead into halftime. With the starters long removed from the game and with the team no longer passing, Bridgeport scored again, going ahead, 56-0, in the third quarter.

The problem here is that bassick should not have been in that league to begin with if they havent won a game since 2001

High School Football is rarely fair because you have to deal with the players that you have. You can't recruit (at least you aren't supposed to) or sign other players to come in. If your team starts a bad run, it gets progressively more difficult every year to get kids to try out for the football team.

There was a game a couple of weeks ago that I was listening to on the radio where two schools of the same size were playing and one was beating the tar out of the other. The winning team had around 60 players on the squad while the losing team was having to dress out JV players just so they could bring 30 players to the stadium.

that doesnt change the fact. The team that beat them is like a division 1/class A football school maybe basick needs to play in the same league as div 3/class c private schools.

 

[ViviTheMage]

bad rule.

it is usually...a nice thing to give 2nd, 3rd string a chance to play.

i was on a football team back in high school (04-05) and we were undefeated in the season 50 odd games and we never BLEW out teams like that because we threw in 3rd, 4th squad to give them a taste of senior style football.

It's a courtesy thing to not blow out teams like this.

EDIT : I just read he put in 3rd string.

HAHA those kids got OWNED then.

coach should be praised not suspended. kudos to him for being a good coach throughout his team.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy
28-0 does not mean the game is over.

so he put his 3rd string in at halftime. i doubt he left the 1st string in the whole game. 2nd string was probably in and helped run it up.

if anything they should suspend the loseing couch. he is doing a very bad job..

28-0 in the first quarter? One of the best teams in the league against a team that hasn't won in 5 years? Yeah, I think the game was over at 28-0.

They shouldn't suspend the losing coach, they should put the team in a different league.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
28-0 does not mean the game is over.

so he put his 3rd string in at halftime. i doubt he left the 1st string in the whole game. 2nd string was probably in and helped run it up.

if anything they should suspend the loseing couch. he is doing a very bad job..

28-0 in the first quarter? One of the best teams in the league against a team that hasn't won in 5 years? Yeah, I think the game was over at 28-0.

They shouldn't suspend the losing coach, they should put the team in a different league.

The majority of HS football leagues are grouped based on school population.

You'd be changing leagues every year, and still getting blowouts even if they did do it by supposed skill due to the dynamics of HS football.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I was going to comment that maybe he didn't put third string in until it was 49-0, then I RTF.

Against Bassick, a team that has not won since 2001, Bridgeport Central had a 35-0 lead at the end of the first quarter. By the second quarter, Cadelina was already emptying his bench, but Bridgeport Central took a 49-0 lead into halftime. With the starters long removed from the game and with the team no longer passing, Bridgeport scored again, going ahead, 56-0, in the third quarter.

The problem here is that bassick should not have been in that league to begin with if they havent won a game since 2001

High School Football is rarely fair because you have to deal with the players that you have. You can't recruit (at least you aren't supposed to) or sign other players to come in. If your team starts a bad run, it gets progressively more difficult every year to get kids to try out for the football team.

There was a game a couple of weeks ago that I was listening to on the radio where two schools of the same size were playing and one was beating the tar out of the other. The winning team had around 60 players on the squad while the losing team was having to dress out JV players just so they could bring 30 players to the stadium.

that doesnt change the fact. The team that beat them is like a division 1/class A football school maybe basick needs to play in the same league as div 3/class c private schools.

we played in the lake division (5A? the toughest and biggest of schools, we had 100+ football players for Varsity).

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I was going to comment that maybe he didn't put third string in until it was 49-0, then I RTF.

Against Bassick, a team that has not won since 2001, Bridgeport Central had a 35-0 lead at the end of the first quarter. By the second quarter, Cadelina was already emptying his bench, but Bridgeport Central took a 49-0 lead into halftime. With the starters long removed from the game and with the team no longer passing, Bridgeport scored again, going ahead, 56-0, in the third quarter.

The problem here is that bassick should not have been in that league to begin with if they havent won a game since 2001

High School Football is rarely fair because you have to deal with the players that you have. You can't recruit (at least you aren't supposed to) or sign other players to come in. If your team starts a bad run, it gets progressively more difficult every year to get kids to try out for the football team.

There was a game a couple of weeks ago that I was listening to on the radio where two schools of the same size were playing and one was beating the tar out of the other. The winning team had around 60 players on the squad while the losing team was having to dress out JV players just so they could bring 30 players to the stadium.

that doesnt change the fact. The team that beat them is like a division 1/class A football school maybe basick needs to play in the same league as div 3/class c private schools.

What fact? We don't know the size of either school from the article. That is how football divisions are generally seperated out...by school size. If they are in the same division, it is a good bet that they are approximately the same size.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I was going to comment that maybe he didn't put third string in until it was 49-0, then I RTF.

Against Bassick, a team that has not won since 2001, Bridgeport Central had a 35-0 lead at the end of the first quarter. By the second quarter, Cadelina was already emptying his bench, but Bridgeport Central took a 49-0 lead into halftime. With the starters long removed from the game and with the team no longer passing, Bridgeport scored again, going ahead, 56-0, in the third quarter.

The problem here is that bassick should not have been in that league to begin with if they havent won a game since 2001

High School Football is rarely fair because you have to deal with the players that you have. You can't recruit (at least you aren't supposed to) or sign other players to come in. If your team starts a bad run, it gets progressively more difficult every year to get kids to try out for the football team.

There was a game a couple of weeks ago that I was listening to on the radio where two schools of the same size were playing and one was beating the tar out of the other. The winning team had around 60 players on the squad while the losing team was having to dress out JV players just so they could bring 30 players to the stadium.

that doesnt change the fact. The team that beat them is like a division 1/class A football school maybe basick needs to play in the same league as div 3/class c private schools.

What fact? We don't know the size of either school from the article. That is how football divisions are generally seperated out...by school size. If they are in the same division, it is a good bet that they are approximately the same size.

QFT

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: waggy
28-0 does not mean the game is over.

so he put his 3rd string in at halftime. i doubt he left the 1st string in the whole game. 2nd string was probably in and helped run it up.

if anything they should suspend the loseing couch. he is doing a very bad job..

28-0 in the first quarter? One of the best teams in the league against a team that hasn't won in 5 years? Yeah, I think the game was over at 28-0.

They shouldn't suspend the losing coach, they should put the team in a different league.

ok so odds are he put the 2nd string in for the 2nd Quarter and they still kicked ass. then for the 3rd he put in the 3rd and they continued to kick ass. what do you want? for them to give them the ball to score?

or go get the JR high team? (though they might have scored). EVERYONE should be able to play as hard as they can. even if it is the 3rd string in a blowout game.

this rule is dumb.

 

[Juno]

that rule is really dumb.

i'm really impressed with my high school football team ('02 state champs) even i graduated from them three years ago. they dominated 53-0 within 40-0 at half last saturday. the starters are often removed from the game after half if they have a huge lead margin.

they produced a high-talented running back in paul chiara which is now at syracuse university.

 

[MisterJackson]

The other team should just be suspended from playing period.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: chuckywang
So you want him to tell his players to quit scoring?

Running up the score in a blowout IS considered bad sportsmanship. He could teach his kids something about that maybe.

No it isn't. It's considered bad sportsmanship to run up the score and then taunt the other team, or maybe to put in your best guys just for the sake of running up the score, but if you're allowing your 3rd string guys a chance to compete, then it's just sports.

Not to mention that the coach is there to win. He needs his 2nd and 3rd string to be ready to play in case someone goes down. Practice is one thing but getting game experience is something completely different. It's supposed to be competition. If the other team can't hack it then they need to take off the pads or move to a different class.

 

[Mucho]

They need a mercy rule.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: BigJ

The majority of HS football leagues are grouped based on school population.

Not really, they're based on geographic area. I used to play against those two schools, they were in the same league with my high school which was made up of teams surrounding Bridgeport Connecticut. Central, Bassick, Harding and Bullard Havens Tech were all doormat schools in football. They had great basketball teams and lousy football teams, in football they were routinely pummeled by much smaller schools, including mine. We were a Class S (small school) football powerhouse and could beat Central or Bassick by 50 points if we left our first and second string at home and started the third stringers. That was the way it was. The 3rd stringers looked forward to those games because that was when they got to play. They worked their butts off all year and never got into close games against our big rivals. The games against weak teams was their only chance. You simply can't get your third stringers into a game and tell them to take a knee because the other team sucks too bad.

The coach of Central did everything he could to be fair, suspending him makes a mockery of what is supposed to be a competitive sport.

 

[dullard]

The rule is stupid. That said, a rule is a rule and he knew of the rule. Thus, this incident should be investigated. I'm not saying the panel should suspend him, but I'm saying the incident MUST be investigated. Why? Only with an investigation can they prove that the rule is stupid, overturn the rule, and/or change the rule to a better rule.

I am in favor of rules to limit blowouts. However, I'd do it in a way that is completely different. After you are up 50+ points, maybe the clock doesn't stop (except for injuries). Or, maybe your penalties get doubled in cost. Or, maybe you start 5 yards back on your kickoffs / 5 yards forward on theirs, etc. I could go on and on with variations. The variations I'd support would all have no one is suspended, the kids still play their hearts out, etc., yet the scoring difference is limited.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I was going to comment that maybe he didn't put third string in until it was 49-0, then I RTF.

Against Bassick, a team that has not won since 2001, Bridgeport Central had a 35-0 lead at the end of the first quarter. By the second quarter, Cadelina was already emptying his bench, but Bridgeport Central took a 49-0 lead into halftime. With the starters long removed from the game and with the team no longer passing, Bridgeport scored again, going ahead, 56-0, in the third quarter.

The problem here is that bassick should not have been in that league to begin with if they havent won a game since 2001

High School Football is rarely fair because you have to deal with the players that you have. You can't recruit (at least you aren't supposed to) or sign other players to come in. If your team starts a bad run, it gets progressively more difficult every year to get kids to try out for the football team.

There was a game a couple of weeks ago that I was listening to on the radio where two schools of the same size were playing and one was beating the tar out of the other. The winning team had around 60 players on the squad while the losing team was having to dress out JV players just so they could bring 30 players to the stadium.

that doesnt change the fact. The team that beat them is like a division 1/class A football school maybe basick needs to play in the same league as div 3/class c private schools.

What fact? We don't know the size of either school from the article. That is how football divisions are generally seperated out...by school size. If they are in the same division, it is a good bet that they are approximately the same size.

Bridgeport Central is one of the largest public high schools in CT. Bridgeport is the largest city in CT. There are small private high schools that year after recruit for football that play larger public schools because they are competitive. The whole point of leagues is to put tteams in clusters where they are competitive with each other.

http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/Team.m...D-2e1261eb-a589-473f-b6c4-16231d13cd9e

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BigJ

The majority of HS football leagues are grouped based on school population.

Not really, they're based on geographic area. I used to play against those two schools, they were in the same league with my high school which was made up of teams surrounding Bridgeport Connecticut. Central, Bassick, Harding and Bullard Havens Tech were all doormat schools in football. They had great basketball teams and lousy football teams, in football they were routinely pummeled by much smaller schools, including mine. We were a Class S (small school) football powerhouse and could beat Central or Bassick by 50 points if we left our first and second string at home and started the third stringers. That was the way it was. The 3rd stringers looked forward to those games because that was when they got to play. They worked their butts off all year and never got into close games against our big rivals. The games against weak teams was their only chance. You simply can't get your third stringers into a game and tell them to take a knee because the other team sucks too bad.

The coach of Central did everything he could to be fair, suspending him makes a mockery of what is supposed to be a competitive sport.

You said you were Class S, right? Which you said is small school football. That's my point.

It's a given they're going to initially divide the schools into area (do you really want to be travelling 200 miles to play another small school?) but after that, who you play is usually based on school size/population.

 

[CKDragon]

I think the answer is simple...

Make them play Briscoe High!

As a side note on the commercial, does anyone find it retarded that they have Briscoe losing until the last seconds of the game & the retarded opponents bite on a fake run/halfback pass as the last play?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy
ok so odds are he put the 2nd string in for the 2nd Quarter and they still kicked ass. then for the 3rd he put in the 3rd and they continued to kick ass. what do you want? for them to give them the ball to score?

I think you're right, except they didn't continue to kick ass. They scored once in the last two quarters. Five times in the first quarter. Twice in the second quarter. Once in the third quarter. Zero times in the fourth quarter. At some point they also stopped passing and just ran the ball. I don't think the coach should get suspended because it's obvious that he attempted to slow down the scoring. But I think it's obvious that he could have slowed it down earlier.

Maybe my viewpoint is different because I played a sport where sportsmanship mattered.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: BigJ

The majority of HS football leagues are grouped based on school population.

Not really, they're based on geographic area. I used to play against those two schools, they were in the same league with my high school which was made up of teams surrounding Bridgeport Connecticut. Central, Bassick, Harding and Bullard Havens Tech were all doormat schools in football. They had great basketball teams and lousy football teams, in football they were routinely pummeled by much smaller schools, including mine. We were a Class S (small school) football powerhouse and could beat Central or Bassick by 50 points if we left our first and second string at home and started the third stringers. That was the way it was. The 3rd stringers looked forward to those games because that was when they got to play. They worked their butts off all year and never got into close games against our big rivals. The games against weak teams was their only chance. You simply can't get your third stringers into a game and tell them to take a knee because the other team sucks too bad.

The coach of Central did everything he could to be fair, suspending him makes a mockery of what is supposed to be a competitive sport.

Bassick should be in a different league since they havent won any games in 5 years. thats not 1 blow out to one school but a series of horrible beatings.

I am not in favor of the blow out rule i am in favor of putting teams that are competitive with each other in the same league and less competitive teams goto a league where they can be competitive.

blowouts dont prove anything and can put kids at risk of injury. think a jv squad vs. penn states starters. When when thereis that much discrepency in skill levels people can be hurt.