High idle cpu usage after switch to Win 10

[frozentundra123456]

Just was playing Witcher 3 and noticed my cpu usage was 100% with an i5 2320 and a measly HD7770. I never noticed this before, so I tried a restart. Low and behold, cpu usage at IDLE is around 35%.

Checking Task manager, the Intel Rapid Storage Technology alone is using about 28% cpu. I have an older Dell XPS with Raid 0 hard drives, but I am certain that idle cpu usage under win 7 was never over a couple of percent. I also recently installed Avast, but that seems to be using almost no cpu at idle. Does this seem right?? I am wondering if there needs to be a new driver for the raid software in Win 10. Help anyone?

 

[Berryracer]

Probably indexing running and also, Windows 10 has a bug where if you don't move your mouse for a few seconds, it stats the automatic maintenance process which never ends, that's what's eating your CPU usage. In addition to all the telemetry it's sending.........

All text typed on the keyboard is stored in temporary files, and sent (once per 30 mins) to:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/a-traffic-analysis-of-windows-10-2/

oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
pre.footprintpredict.com
reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com

Telemetry is sent once per 5 minutes, to:

vortex.data.microsoft.com
vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com
telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com
sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net

typing the name of any popular movie into your local file search starts a telemetry process that indexes all media files on your computer and transmits them to:

df.telemetry.microsoft.com
reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
pre.footprintpredict.com


When a webcam is first enabled, ~35mb of data gets immediately transmitted to:

oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net


Everything that is said into an enabled microphone is immediately transmitted to:

oca.telemetry.microsoft.com
oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com
pre.footprintpredict.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com
i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net
telemetry.appex.bing.net
telemetry.urs.microsoft.com
cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net
statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com

If this weren’t bad enough, this behaviour still occurs after Cortana is fully disabled/uninstalled. It’s speculated that the purpose of this function to build up a massive voice database, then tie those voices to identities, and eventually be able to identify anyone simply by picking up their voice, whether it be a microphone in a public place or a wiretap on a payphone.

Interestingly, if Cortana is enabled, the voice is first transcribed to text, then the transcription is sent to:

pre.footprintpredict.com
reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com
df.telemetry.microsoft.com

While the inital reflex may be to block all of the above servers via HOSTS, it turns out this won’t work: Microsoft has taken the care to hardcode certain IPs, meaning that there is no DNS lookup and no HOSTS consultation. However, if the above servers are blocked via HOSTS, Windows will pretend to be crippled by continuously throwing errors, while still maintaining data collection in the background. Other than an increase in errors, HOSTS blocking did not affect the volume, frequency, or rate of data being transmitted.

http://localghost.org/

http://aeronet.cz/news/analyza-wind...rmaci-o-uzivateli-jeho-prstech-ocich-a-hlasu/

 

[Yuriman]

One thing which might cause high idle CPU usage in Windows 10 is the photos app background-optimizing your photos. I suppose it's possible this could be related?

 

[escrow4]

^

FIVE EYES ARE WATCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ninja:

 

[soccerballtux]

screw all this, our data cap is low enough, I'm staying on 7

 

[coercitiv]

Just was playing Witcher 3 and noticed my cpu usage was 100% with an i5 2320 and a measly HD7770. I never noticed this before, so I tried a restart. Low and behold, cpu usage at IDLE is around 35%.

Both my laptops are idling at 1% in Windows 10. If anything, it's lower than before, so the potential is there.

 

[.vodka]

Part of the invasive telemetry is also coming to 7/8.1, in the form of a few updates. Some of your data cap is going to be wasted anyway.


It could also be the .net services doing their thing, these are known for hogging a core or two for a while.

 

[mikeymikec]

Checking Task manager, the Intel Rapid Storage Technology alone is using about 28% cpu.

I've seen an issue on a system where the BIOS was set to a different storage method to Windows (e.g. IDE/AHCI) and this was the symptom.

However, Win10 is pretty new, perhaps you're not using the most ideal driver version for it?

 

[sxr7171]

Probably indexing running and also, Windows 10 has a bug where if you don't move your mouse for a few seconds, it stats the automatic maintenance process which never ends, that's what's eating your CPU usage. In addition to all the telemetry it's sending.........

I read that and I wondered if you're joking. I can't believe nobody has spoken up about this. They tried with Kinect but people spoke up and they had to change it. This time nobody seems to care.

Edit: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/

 

[therealnickdanger]

I read that and I wondered if you're joking. I can't believe nobody has spoken up about this. They tried with Kinect but people spoke up and they had to change it. This time nobody seems to care.

Edit: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-telemetry-and-data-collection-in-windows-10/

Things are always more special when it's your first time.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Still doing it this morning. It says the cpu usage is by the Rapid Storage Technology, but it could be doing other things that show up as this. I am doing some virus scans, but so far have found nothing.

I an *very* seriously considering rolling back to win 7.

 

[TeknoBug]

Berryracer, all that stuff in the quote is disheartening, holy cow.

Still doing it this morning. It says the cpu usage is by the Rapid Storage Technology, but it could be doing other things that show up as this. I am doing some virus scans, but so far have found nothing.

I an *very* seriously considering rolling back to win 7.

Go into PC settings and turn everything off in Privacy if you did an express settings install, and if you're using Wifi set it to metered connection, etc. Win 10 out of the box with default settings is incredibly annoying and uses A LOT of bandwidth (I only have 250GB of it per month).

 

[Phynaz]

Still doing it this morning. It says the cpu usage is by the Rapid Storage Technology, but it could be doing other things that show up as this. I am doing some virus scans, but so far have found nothing.

I an *very* seriously considering rolling back to win 7.

RST shouldn't be doing that. Are you running the latest version?

Maybe a reinstall is called for.

 

[cytg111]

Probably indexing running and also, Windows 10 has a bug where if you don't move your mouse for a few seconds, it stats the automatic maintenance process which never ends, that's what's eating your CPU usage. In addition to all the telemetry it's sending.........

Yea, read about some of that and decided to put off win10 until I've thoroughly reviewed what all this nsa/surveliance/telemetry/whateveruwannacallit crap is about.. holy * its massive, I feel the year of the linux desktop may be upon me.. Supposedly you can turn it all off? But can you really? I am waiting until the uber hacks have given it a good shake and see what falls out. Staying on 8.1, beep this *beep*.

 

[LTC8K6]

Makes sure you have the latest RST drivers installed.

Looking around the net, high RST CPU use is was pretty common before W10.

I just searched "Intel Rapid Storage Update" and picked the first hit, which is from intel.com - didn't do Intel Driver Update utility given other comments here, just went to "Download Center" and picked the "14.5.0.1081" released on 7/30/2015 - you then are given three possible downloads, but you want the biggest one, the EXE, which apparently includes all the others. Fixed the problem.

 

[frozentundra123456]

RST shouldn't be doing that. Are you running the latest version?

Maybe a reinstall is called for.

I went to the intel site and downloaded a utility to check if the driver was up to date. It said it was.

Not sure that is correct though. The computer is about 3 years old, and I have never updated the RST driver. Maybe it updates automatically, IDK. They didnt even have a Win 10 driver listed at all.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Makes sure you have the latest RST drivers installed.

Looking around the net, high RST CPU use is was pretty common before W10.

Yea, I say some of those too, but couldnt really understand most of it. I am sure on win 7 I never had this problem. Some of the posts even said you could turn it off even with raid drives, but I am afraid to try that.

Time to trash the platter drives and get an SSD????? Too bad I dont have spare funds for computer stuff.

 

[Burpo]

Uninstall intel RST.. Windows 10 has it's own drivers.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Uninstall intel RST.. Windows 10 has it's own drivers.

Even with raid 0 hard drives? Knew I shouldn't have gotten raid drives, but the computer was on sale really cheap at microcenter. Maybe I could just turn it off in task manager and see if the CPU usage drops to normal. I am still hoping it will solve itself, maybe it was just doing some disk maintainence. I did try to turn off most of the "phone home" crap, but I am not really sure what is running.

Its really annoying since I am in the closing stages of witcher 3. The game ran like crap because of my gpu, but now it is even worse because the CPU is maxed out.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Berryracer, all that stuff in the quote is disheartening, holy cow.


Go into PC settings and turn everything off in Privacy if you did an express settings install, and if you're using Wifi set it to metered connection, etc. Win 10 out of the box with default settings is incredibly annoying and uses A LOT of bandwidth (I only have 250GB of it per month).

The site he's linking to is quoting some Czech guy who claimed all that...but when it comes to saying where those text files are....silence. Hmmm. It should be very easy to watch what is happening with Fiddler and see if everything you type is uploaded.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Dunno guys but when I sit idle I get around 2% CPU usage and that's MSI Afterburner, some other stuff that is always on.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I went into Task Manager and turned off RST manually. CPU at idle is now 2 to 5% and everything seems to be working properly with the program off. CPU playing W3 is back to 50 to 70 percent, instead of the hundred percent I was seeing with RST on.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I went into Task Manager and turned off RST manually. CPU at idle is now 2 to 5% and everything seems to be working properly with the program off. CPU playing W3 is back to 50 to 70 percent, instead of the hundred percent I was seeing with RST on.

When I saw the thread title, it gave me a quick flashback to last year when I discovered my WHS server was pegging at least one CPU core to 100%.

I would've suggested downloading a shareware app called "LatencyMon" or latency monitor. It will tell you which services or processes are creating backlogs of DPC's and IRQ requests. In the cases I'd encountered, the identifiable causes trace back to driver conflicts.

So I can see how turning off IRST might resolve your problem. YOu still may want to run the shareware for a clearer idea of any other drivers or processes in conflict.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Ehh... finally got fed up with it and reverted to Win 7. Went really quick and dont seem to have any problem with high idle cpu usage.

 

[tweakboy]

It can be . runtimebroker.exe ,, end task then do it again until hes better
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