High Fiber Diets aren't a fad

Scarpozzi

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I figured I'd throw this out so everyone can benefit...

There are a lot of fad diets going around. It's easy to get caught up in the 1-3 week diets that everyone tries to lose quick weight. The trick with fiber diets is that they actually help grab fat and take it out of your body as the fiber is processed. What you're looking for is higher doses of SOLUABLE FIBER (increases stool and grabs fat)....not insoluable (passes through your system and scrapes your system clean). So be sure that when you see a product with these split up, you know which you are really looking for.

http://aim4naturespharmacy.com...fiberblend/soluble.htm

Some of the best things to eat are potatoes with the skin (a medium potato has 4-5 grams of fiber with the skin), citrus fruits, apples, pears...and other fruits with edible skins (which also contain pectin that curbs your appetite).

Dark Green Veggies like greens, brocolli, and spinach are some of the best picks to go with whole grains and low-fat meats. If you are going low on meat, BEANS are excellent choices.

Finally, look for fiber enriched breads 3-4 grams each and fiber-enriched cereals. Fiber One, cereals from Kashi, and All Bran are some good places to look. If you don't have a lot of time to eat in the morning, check out Fiber One bars. They deliver a good dose of fiber in the morning and can be eaten during your morning commute. Not only that, they stick with you better than granola.

If you visit the metamucil section of your grocery store, you can find flavorless, non-chalky fiber additives that will allow you to add another 5 grams of fiber to just about any meal.

Your goal is to mix up your diet to get 30 grams per day of fiber. None of this food is particularly expensive. This will help balance your diet and reduce your appetite. If you go with healthy fiber-rich selections, you'll ultimately have science on your side if you're supplementing your diet efforts with exercise.

http://fitsugar.com/729004
http://mircat.wordpress.com/20...rams-of-fiber-per-day/
http://findarticles.com/p/arti...08/is_5_20/ai_n6011812
 

irishScott

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I'd also add that Unsoluable Fiber, the stuff that makes you shit, can also be very useful. It prevents constipation and cleans out the colon. IIRC this can help prevent hemorrhoids. It also slows digestion, so you feel full for a longer period of time. Thus you will eat less, and this obviously helps with weight loss.

And it's just as if not more effective than a colonic.

Take it with a good amount of water though. Otherwise you'll get gas/pressure up the arse.

I personally use these at the dosage on the bottle:
http://www.allstarhealth.com/f...way-psyllium_husks.htm
 

skace

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I'd just like to mention that Fiber One bars are not to be taken lightly, you eat more than one of those and you'll regret it.

Edit: Which makes them a damn good choice for a daily snack, since your body gets punished for cheating and eating too many.
 

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Fiber is easily one of the most overlooked parts of a diet. Most Americans are getting a fraction of it that they should in their typical daily diet.

Oatmeal, berries, and whole fiber enriched grains/cereals for breakfast.

Fiber added tortillas and veggies for lunch.

Some beans or legumes and more green veggies with dinner.

Beware the Kashi cereal - if you aren't used to eating that much fiber in one sitting it's a colon wreck waiting to happen. Even being used to consuming 30-40 grams of fiber a day a bowl of that just destroys me.
 
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I agree, but I don't agree to the breads/pasta/oatmeal posts; I prefer to keep my carbs to the naturally fibrous foods (fruit, vegies) that in their NATURAL state are bursting with fiber. The others (bread) just make you fat.

If you learn to cook asparagus correctly, they're actually quite nummy.
 

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
I agree, but I don't agree to the breads/pasta/oatmeal posts; I prefer to keep my carbs to the naturally fibrous foods (fruit, vegies) that in their NATURAL state are bursting with fiber. The others (bread) just make you fat.

If you learn to cook asparagus correctly, they're actually quite nummy.

Whatever. The body still requires carbohydrates. There are simply not enough calories in fruits and veggies to maintain metabolism and energy. Carbs should be between 40% and 60% of your diet with fat and protein making up the rest.
 

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Remember that PROCESSED foods aren't required in any diet. That means flour, sugar, white rice, pasta, juices etc. aren't necessary. Cheeses, milk and such aren't required either. You can go zero carbs and not die...try that with zero fat. Protein can convert in the body via gluconeogenesi into carbohydrates during high intensity excercise or high demand for carbs. Excess carbs are converted to fat.

As far as fiber, check out GNU bars. The chocolate brownie ones are to die for if you drink black coffee, the orange ones are great if you drink hot teas.
 
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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
I agree, but I don't agree to the breads/pasta/oatmeal posts; I prefer to keep my carbs to the naturally fibrous foods (fruit, vegies) that in their NATURAL state are bursting with fiber. The others (bread) just make you fat.

If you learn to cook asparagus correctly, they're actually quite nummy.

Whatever. The body still requires carbohydrates. There are simply not enough calories in fruits and veggies to maintain metabolism and energy. Carbs should be between 40% and 60% of your diet with fat and protein making up the rest.

Um no arguments here. Why are you being so course? You can get all the carbs you need from vegetables and fruits, and yes the rest of the energy comes proteins and fats.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
I agree, but I don't agree to the breads/pasta/oatmeal posts; I prefer to keep my carbs to the naturally fibrous foods (fruit, vegies) that in their NATURAL state are bursting with fiber. The others (bread) just make you fat.

If you learn to cook asparagus correctly, they're actually quite nummy.

Whatever. The body still requires carbohydrates. There are simply not enough calories in fruits and veggies to maintain metabolism and energy. Carbs should be between 40% and 60% of your diet with fat and protein making up the rest.

Um no arguments here. Why are you being so course? You can get all the carbs you need from vegetables and fruits, and yes the rest of the energy comes proteins and fats.

Please lay out a daily diet of 2500 calories eating primarily veggies and fruits for your carbs.



 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
I agree, but I don't agree to the breads/pasta/oatmeal posts; I prefer to keep my carbs to the naturally fibrous foods (fruit, vegies) that in their NATURAL state are bursting with fiber. The others (bread) just make you fat.

If you learn to cook asparagus correctly, they're actually quite nummy.

Whatever. The body still requires carbohydrates. There are simply not enough calories in fruits and veggies to maintain metabolism and energy. Carbs should be between 40% and 60% of your diet with fat and protein making up the rest.

Um no arguments here. Why are you being so course? You can get all the carbs you need from vegetables and fruits, and yes the rest of the energy comes proteins and fats.

Please lay out a daily diet of 2500 calories eating primarily veggies and fruits for your carbs.

You don't need to eat any carbs to live. I think that you should, but you don't need to. Once your body starts producing glucose you'll have plenty of energy (in a ketogenic state). The body requires carbs, but if doesn't require you to consume them, as it can make them.

You most certainly can live solely on vegetables and fats/proteins.
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: spamsk8r
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
I agree, but I don't agree to the breads/pasta/oatmeal posts; I prefer to keep my carbs to the naturally fibrous foods (fruit, vegies) that in their NATURAL state are bursting with fiber. The others (bread) just make you fat.

If you learn to cook asparagus correctly, they're actually quite nummy.

Whatever. The body still requires carbohydrates. There are simply not enough calories in fruits and veggies to maintain metabolism and energy. Carbs should be between 40% and 60% of your diet with fat and protein making up the rest.

Um no arguments here. Why are you being so course? You can get all the carbs you need from vegetables and fruits, and yes the rest of the energy comes proteins and fats.

Please lay out a daily diet of 2500 calories eating primarily veggies and fruits for your carbs.

You don't need to eat any carbs to live. I think that you should, but you don't need to. Once your body starts producing glucose you'll have plenty of energy (in a ketogenic state). The body requires carbs, but if doesn't require you to consume them, as it can make them.

You most certainly can live solely on vegetables and fats/proteins.

I should have said "optimally function", not survive. And that's doubly so if you are even remotely active. A banana or a chicken breast simply isn't as good of an energy source as a whole bran muffin or baked potato.

Our body is designed to turn carbs into energy, it uses fat and proteins more effectively for other purposes.

It's a machine designed with moderation of all food types to be used.

There's a whole lot of things that the body can do...but that doesn't mean you should do it.
 

maluckey

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should have said "optimally function", not survive. And that's doubly so if you are even remotely active. A banana or a chicken breast simply isn't as good of an energy source as a whole bran muffin or baked potato.

Among athletes (and combat soldiers) Bananas are well known to be about as good as it gets. Rich in potassium, fiber, pectin and B6, it is known by most all runners and endurance athletes as about the best fruit out there.

White Potatoes are simple starches and spike the insulin level too fast for most anything other than a quick boost after a heavy gym workout. Bran Muffins? Maybe in a pinch, but most commercial ones are relatively high glycemic index, and many have trans-fats. Sure you get fiber, and maybe enough to offset the rest of the bad stuff, but there are certainly better choices than potatos and bran muffins.

Sweet potatoes, brown rice and bananas to name a few better choices that actually taste good.

 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: spamsk8r
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
I agree, but I don't agree to the breads/pasta/oatmeal posts; I prefer to keep my carbs to the naturally fibrous foods (fruit, vegies) that in their NATURAL state are bursting with fiber. The others (bread) just make you fat.

If you learn to cook asparagus correctly, they're actually quite nummy.

Whatever. The body still requires carbohydrates. There are simply not enough calories in fruits and veggies to maintain metabolism and energy. Carbs should be between 40% and 60% of your diet with fat and protein making up the rest.

Um no arguments here. Why are you being so course? You can get all the carbs you need from vegetables and fruits, and yes the rest of the energy comes proteins and fats.

Please lay out a daily diet of 2500 calories eating primarily veggies and fruits for your carbs.

You don't need to eat any carbs to live. I think that you should, but you don't need to. Once your body starts producing glucose you'll have plenty of energy (in a ketogenic state). The body requires carbs, but if doesn't require you to consume them, as it can make them.

You most certainly can live solely on vegetables and fats/proteins.

I should have said "optimally function", not survive. And that's doubly so if you are even remotely active. A banana or a chicken breast simply isn't as good of an energy source as a whole bran muffin or baked potato.

Our body is designed to turn carbs into energy, it uses fat and proteins more effectively for other purposes.

It's a machine designed with moderation of all food types to be used.

There's a whole lot of things that the body can do...but that doesn't mean you should do it.

I agree. Usually when you see weightlifters/bodybuilders who are on keto diets they use a cyclic keto diet, where they have a carbohydrate refeed period once a week to replace the spent muscle glycogen. You really can't push yourself physically without carbs.
 

KillerCharlie

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Whole wheat pasta is awesome. It has more protein than a serving of peanut butter and has a good amount of fiber.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: maluckey
Whole wheat pasta is awesome. It has more protein than a serving of peanut butter and has a good amount of fiber.

Never tried it...how's it taste?

ass. I've had worse though.


*ass compared to normal pasta. good in relation to health foods


Also, WTF do you guys do with beans? The only time I have beans is with mexican food...
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: maluckey
Whole wheat pasta is awesome. It has more protein than a serving of peanut butter and has a good amount of fiber.

Never tried it...how's it taste?

ass. I've had worse though.


*ass compared to normal pasta. good in relation to health foods


Also, WTF do you guys do with beans? The only time I have beans is with mexican food...
Something I occasionally do is mix regular pasta with wheat pasta for a 50/50 mix. If you get Hodgson Mill branded pasta, it's not bad by itself. Just try 50/50 for a while and you'll eventually get used to it.

There are many different kinds of beans. Green beans are just as good as pintos, etc.
Consider the following: Black beans, kidney beans, lima beans, field peas, red beans, great northern beans, navy beans. If you hit the grocery store, there are plenty to choose from. Just google the words: "bean" "recipe" and the variety, for example, "Navy" and see what recipes come back. It will give you a good basis.