High-end gpu market question.

[Fefster]

Hi guys this is my first post here.
Do any of you guys have an estimate of how many 150$+ discrete graphics cards are sold every year?I was just wondering if this market is actually sizeable or it is just what it looks from the outside,a small niche.

 

[at80eighty]

I could be wrong, but @ 150 , discrete cards fall under the mid-market range, and are part of the bigger slice of the pie . i.e. not a small niche

 

[Soccerman06]

Id put $150 in the low-mid range lol

As for how many each year, 10-30m through all channels.

 

[aphelion02]

Any idea how many of those cards are by DIYers vs OEM / boutique builders?

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Id put $150 in the low-mid range lol

As for how many each year, 10-30m through all channels.

And you'd be wrong. Your opinion of that is because you're an Enthusiast, probably. As it goes right now:

Under $50: Entry-level/Essential
$50-100: Lower-end Mainstream
$100-150: Mainstream
$150-250: Performance
Over $250: Enthusiast

Alternatively:
Radeon HD 6400: Essential
Radeon HD 6500-6600: Lower-end Mainstream
Radeon HD 6700: Mainstream
Radeon HD 6800: Performance
Radeon HD 6900: Enthusiast

AMD's naming scheme is easier than NVIDIA's for finding the market of each product.

 

[RussianSensation]

Hi guys this is my first post here.
Do any of you guys have an estimate of how many 150$+ discrete graphics cards are sold every year?I was just wondering if this market is actually sizeable or it is just what it looks from the outside,a small niche.

I don't have the actual # on hand, but I found a link for market share to give you an idea (although this dates back to summer of last year).

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460.html

Since the <$50 discrete GPU space is being threatened by APUs from Intel and AMD, I would imagine that as a &#37; of the overall discrete GPU market, the >$150+ is even larger now than ever before. In terms of actual units shipped we would need to look at how the dGPU market has grown in 2011 vs. 2010. You can imagine now for casual gamers or those who desire an HTPC, there is little point in getting a <$99 GPU. This will diminish even further as APUs become even more advanced. I foresee the >$150+ GPU market to become > 80% of what's left of the discrete GPU space on the desktop.

 

[AtenRa]

I don't have the actual # on hand, but I found a link for market share to give you an idea (although this dates back to summer of last year).

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460.html

Since the <$50 discrete GPU space is being threatened by APUs from Intel and AMD, I would imagine that as a % of the overall discrete GPU market, the >$150+ is even larger now than ever before. In terms of actual units shipped we would need to look at how the dGPU market has grown in 2011 vs. 2010. You can imagine now for casual gamers or those who desire an HTPC, there is little point in getting a <$99 GPU. This will diminish even further as APUs become even more advanced. I foresee the >$150+ GPU market to become > 80% of what's left of the discrete GPU space on the desktop.

The above photo represents the GAMER market share and not the total Desktop Discrete Graphics Card market share.

From the above picture (Table 5.4) we can clearly see that $0-100 Graphics Cards (both ATI & NV) represents 60.18% of the total Desktop Discrete Graphics Cards market.
(ATI 3584 + NV5714 = 9298 out of 15450 Total)

$100-200 total Desktop Discrete Graphics Market is 29.02% and from $200 and up we have 10.78%.

$100-200 (ATI 2418 + NV2067 = 4485 out of 15450 Total)
200> (ATI 230+668 + NV321+447 = 1666 out of 15450 Total)

Soon both AMD and NV will start to produce 28nm Entry Level graphics cards and the $0-100 market will have new toys to play with. OEM's will be very happy to use 28nm Low End graphics cards to differentiate there products and the consumer will have more performance with less power usage than 40nm cards or 32nm APU's.

So no, APUs will not hurt the sub $100 Desktop Discrete Graphics Card market.

 

[Blitzvogel]

Wow, that is alot of GPUs.

 

[Fefster]

It seems that we can safely assume that the number of 150$+ gpu sold is in the area of 5 mil per quarter(or maybe i'm reading these tables wrong).Pretty impressive.And just to be clear when i said high-end i didn't actually go for the exact market definition i only meant not cheap ass gpu found in <800$ pre-builts

 

[Arkadrel]

From the above picture (Table 5.4) we can clearly see that $0-100 Graphics Cards (both ATI & NV) represents 60.18&#37; of the total Desktop Discrete Graphics Cards market.
(ATI 3584 + NV5714 = 9298 out of 15450 Total)

I foresee the >$150+ GPU market to become > 80% of what's left of the discrete GPU space on the desktop.

That seems likely, with consol ports being playble with less and less expensive hardware. Id assume once 28nm is out, unless new consols are too, we ll see the sub 150$ market take more than 80% of the total sales.

I mean its over 60% now, and its bound to grow as they keep makeing stronger hardware but titles stay the same, consol ports.


*IF* the integrated GPU (in processors) ever become strong enough to match the 100$ discrete ones, that would push Nvidia out of 60% of GPU market. Now that probably wont happend anytime soon, and might not happend at all, but it could. Currently Llano is roughly able to match the 50$ cards.

Nvidias future profits are gonna lose more and more, to integrated GPUs, which is a problem because more and more consumers are useing midrange or lower cards.

With AMD doing a new arch for more compute power in their gpus nearly identical to nvidias approch, thats bound to cost nvidia some sales in the server market too. Nvidias low-end and high-end(server) are gonna shrink.

Which is why Nvidia are putting so much effort into their Tegra lines, they ll need that to survive, in mobile phones.

 

[Borealis7]

just check the Steam survey. its the word of God.

/duck&cover

 

[RussianSensation]

So no, APUs will not hurt the sub $100 Desktop Discrete Graphics Card market.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphi...s_of_Discrete_GPUs_Dramatically_Analysts.html

“GPU sales unit declines in May are reported at -40% to -45% month-on-month versus expectations for -10% to -15% month-on-month. The low-end of Nvidia’s GPUs are hurt by Intel’s integrated graphics capability accompanying its “Sandy Bridge” microprocessor systems. Channel inventory in China may be four weeks now for Nvidia GPUs, versus an expected two to three weeks," wrote Michael McConnell, an analyst with Pacific Crest, in a note to clients, reports Tech Trader Daily. ~ June 9, 2011