high Definition DVD player 248.77 cheaper price

[Jokersmoker]

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[spikemike]

not really high def just upconverted dvd to high def resolutions, you don't get any new information but you do get a dvi picture and reports say it does look better then standard 480p component dvd players.

 

[stokey7873]

Regardless, if you have an HD television, the video will be upconverted to the TV's resolution. It is usually recommended that the conversion is performed at the source to eliminate any extra noise that may be introduced when the video is sent to the TV before its scaled. The other thing is that some TV's do a poor job with the upconversion.

I was curious how much these HD dvd players were. This looks like a pretty good deal. I'll have to look into this model.

 

[spikemike]

also i think that is just the msrp pretty much, should be able to find that price most anywhere, a quick search shows circuit city has it for 269$ or 248$ here Text but i don't know about shipping from there, still cheaper then 299$

 

[vetteguy]

This is one of only like 2 DVD players currently on the market that output in DVI. Not really sure if it's worth it or not, though, since you're not really dealing with a digital signal, which is what DVI is meant for. That doesn't mean I don't want one.

 

[NogginBoink]

Originally posted by: vetteguy
This is one of only like 2 DVD players currently on the market that output in DVI. Not really sure if it's worth it or not, though, since you're not really dealing with a digital signal, which is what DVI is meant for. That doesn't mean I don't want one.

How do you figure this isn't a digital signal?

Video is encoded on the DVD in MPEG. That's a digital signal. (Or is it just not transmitted to the TV digitally?)

 

[Rage187]

you HAVE to HAVE DVI input for the 480 signal to be upconverted to 1080i.

At least thats what my samsung hd931 requires.

 

[spikemike]

Originally posted by: Rage187
you HAVE to HAVE DVI input for the 480 signal to be upconverted to 1080i.

At least thats what my samsung hd931 requires.

yes that is correct it only upconverts on the dvi signal, the component just outputs 480p

 

[Apex]

One thing to keep in mind. On macrovision protected DVD's (basically all of them), you can scale to 720p & 1080i on the DVI output on the Samsung DVD-931 only if your display's DVI input is HDCP compatible. If not, you're stuck at 480p.

The DVI output on the Bravo D1 ($179 plus ship), Momitsu V880 ($199 plus LOTS of shipping) do not have this restriction.

Check your displays before buying.

 

[Fant]

This might be a good thing for those cheap DLP projectors that support HDTV signals via DVI. May be better than the built in deinterlacer.

 

[Desslok]

Last time I check most DVD's(if not all) were NOT high def.

 

[spikemike]

Originally posted by: Desslok
Last time I check most DVD's(if not all) were NOT high def.

of course not, thats not the point of the dvd player the main point is you get a direct digital connection from dvd to hdtv and you get a better upscaler then you would normally get in a tv.

 

[SoulAssassin]

I had a Denon 910 that I had just purchased that I wasn't happy with, picked this up from Amazon for $259 (now up to $299) and I've very, very happy. Picture well exceed the Denon and that isn't just a subjective view, I also recently picked up the new Digital Video Essentials and I can absolutely see the difference between the two. If you TV can take advantage of the DVI then this is money well spent. If you're considering the Bravo D1 you should read some of the posts on avsforums about problems with that player (lock ups/tray problems iirc). If they had the Samsung in black it would be the perfect DVD player (this week at least).

This is on a Pioneer Elite 630HD FWIW.

 

[Jondbold]

damnit just dropped 1.2k on a samsung 32" Hdtv about 3 months ago and no dvi =(

 

[SimMike2]

From my understanding, with the Momitsu you don't need DVI, as it will do this upconvert through the component output.

 

[Jondbold]

whats the Momitsu ? Btw my tv does 480p and 1080i couldn't find anything under $2k that did 720p at the time

 

[RandomCoil]

Originally posted by: Jondbold
whats the Momitsu ? Btw my tv does 480p and 1080i couldn't find anything under $2k that did 720p at the time

If only there were some sort of searching-website or "search engine", if you will, that could help you find info about this "Momitsu v880" that the poster Apex mentioned.

Sorry about that, but you really earned a little flame

 

[SpaceHulk]

This is a great unit. If you would like to know more about DVI for HT read The DVI Guide at AVSforum.

 

[Fant]

You guys know if this DVI output would work with normal DVI driven Computer LCD monitors?

 

[RayH]

The Samsung enforces HDCP protection on it's DVI output so unless your monitor handles an HDCP encrypted signal, it won't work. The Bravo and Momitsu players, however do not enforce HDCP so they should work. In addition, the Momitsu also sends RGBHV analog throught the DVI connector so with a cable adapter it can run on any VGA monitor that can handle the resolutions.


Bravo info
Momitsu info

 

[Nintari]

I'll throw in my 2 cents here

I reccomend anyone thinking about anything Home Theater related should visit the link SpaceHulk Posted. The AVSForums are a great place to gain lots of knowlege on HT related items. I found the site and havent been the same ever since. I built my HTPC thanks to that site and useit for just about anything you can imagine.

One of the primary things I use it for is scaling DVD up to 1080i to my HDTV and using post processing programs to gain even more image quality out of my DVDs. So yes upscaling the DVD will make a large diffrence in image quality even if the Video is only a certain resolution. While DVD movies may not be HD material (as someone posted earlier) they can come pretty damn close to HD material when you have the right setup and also have a good quality encoding on a DVD. OIne of the biggest problems is though that most companies allpy too much processing to the movie while encoding it to DVD and you lose out a lot.

 

[rich644]

There is so such thing as high def DVD <yet>

There are some HD blu-ray designs floating around Japan, (very expensive) but there is not much content to watch on them yet.

True HD DVD players will be released in the US next year, but they will be very expensive.

Content will be scarce for the first several years as movie studios have an almost pavlovian response to new technologies. (which is to fight it in the name of copyright protection)

DVI will do you no good if your display does'nt have a DVI input

DVI will do you little good even if your display has a DVI input because there is an additonal digital to analog conversion at the disply which can mess with the signal (certain plasma displays with DVI are the exception)

The vast majority will be better off with a quality progressive scan DVD player with analog component outputs.

So this is not really a deal.

To learn more check out, www.avsforum.com

 

[Fant]

How is there an additional conversion from digital to analog? DVI fed from the DVD player to the HDTV delivers the signal digitally all the way from the DVD source material, thru the faroudja deinterlacing, right into the TV. Of course there is an analog component when you talk about projecting the image on a screen but its the best you're gonna get.

 

[berserker]

The prevailing opinion on these DVI players is that only a fixed pixel display (LCD, Plasma) will show a noticeable increase in picture quality when using the DVI output.

 

[Fant]

However this dvd player also does very nice upscaling of dvd content (480i) ->1080i for those 1080i sets. Perhaps it even does it better than the set's built in upscalers.