High cpu temps with a7v133 and sb live.

[Chasgood]

I have a a7v133 board, bios 1005a, with a 1.33 AMD. When I put the system together last month I used my old SB live sound card. I started using vcool software the second day to help keep temps down.

A week later I installed XP. Because of some odd hardware conflict XP install program couldn't see my raid drive till I took out the sound card. After XP was up and running using the onboard sound I noticed the cpu temp while web surfing was down to 42c. It had been 50c to 53c with the sb card in. I put the sb live card back in and sure enough the temp went right back up.

Went out today and bought a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card. On sale for $59 at Comp USA this week. Got the last one at the OKC store. Right now the cpu temp is between 39c and 40c.

So many people have posted about problems with the sb live and KT133a boards I was wondering if this is just another to add to the list?
Many also have posted about high cpu temps with these mother boards. Wonder what percent with high temps have sb live cards?
Do you blame the chipset or sound card?

Just thought I would share what I have learned. Hope it may help.

chasgood

 

[Egrimm]

I also have had high temps on my old A7V133, tried two configurations but both with Live so that might be the reason... Never thought that the sound card might be the reason even though I've heard about problems with KT133A and SbLive.

 

[sanz]

Interesting...

When I get home tonight, I'll remove my Sblive and see if this holds true.

 

[Rafael]

The the KT133A and the SB Live have many problems in the past together. Most of the problems were realted to data corruption in big files, stability problems, random lock up. But Im not sure about the RAID problem, it might be, but it could also the XP drivers problem. Have you installed the latest PROMISE drivers for the controller? Try on the Asus site if you dont.
And even with the Fixes, Patches for the KT133A and the SB Live problem, some ppl never got the problem solved, and others never got the problem. But what most ppl recommended was putting the SB live on PCI slot 3, install the latest 4 in 1 Via Drivers.
And you will see many ppl blaming on VIA and many other blaming Creative. VIA in the past had screwed up before, and the Creative quite never releases updated drivers for their sound cards.
About the TEMPs reading the Asus is known for their temp and voltage readings. Some are very strange, and I dont know if you taking this readings from the BIOS or the PC Probe software. The latest version of the PC Prove is a good version, good readings, almost no difference between the BIOS and the software readings. But someppl say sometimes the Asus temp readings are very high. I dont think it has anything to do with the sound card. I might be wrong.

Hope you all get the problems fixed! Hope I helped you a little.

Good luck!

Raf

 

[Budman]

Chasgood,

My MSI K7T-Turbo did the same thing.

I removed the Sblive & use the onboard sound & just like that my idle temps dropped 10 degrees.

That sblive must interfere with the Halt command that's built into Win2k/xp .

 

[Mats]

I have that exact config: (A SBLive 1.33 T-Bird and ASUS A7V133).

Do you find that the ASUS Probe Utility always reads 10 degrees centigrade higher than the Hardware Monitor in the BIOS?

My CPU is also running hot and I have a Coolermaster 6I31. The probe utility reads about 57 idle and 62 load but the BIOS reading is exactly 10 degrees lower (I have 98SE installed). Not only this but Probe voltage readings are about 3.6 for the PCI bus and 1.8 for the VCore?

I havn't had any lockups or anything and my sound works fine. Rafael is right because my SBLive is in the 3rd PCI slot.

 

[Chasgood]

I check the temp most of the time using vcool. It shows the cpu and m/b temps in the tray. I sometimes run probe to compare. uaually within a 1c of each other. Bios readings the same as vcool. Motherboard temp readings are close to that with a digital thermometer at the exaust fan.
XP comes with VIA drivers. Used the latest Promise raid drivers from Asus sight
Budman suggests the sb live interfering with the halt command. This sounds likely. The sb live card is old by computer standards. No bus mastering. AMD cpus need a signal from the pci bus to go into halt. The live card is not giving the bus a chance to give that ok.
Ran a little test.
I stutdown the vcool program just to see if the temp would climb up. In five minutes it climbed from 40c to 47c just typing this. So yes the sb live card does keep the halt command from being given. Actualy 47c is still lower than when the sb card was installed and vcool running.
Don't mean to pick on Creative sound cards but I noticed one other thing last night and today. The raid drive seems to be faster. Programs pop up when opened a bit quicker and copying is just a bit faster. I don't run benchmark programs so can't give any numbers to prove it.
At any rate I can stop worrying about roasting my new system now as long as a cooler program is running and given a chance to work.

The old sb live card is going to work in a old system with a Intel chipset and PII 350 cpu. Can't let it go to waist.


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chasgood

 

[Wind]

<< I have that exact config: (A SBLive 1.33 T-Bird and ASUS A7V133).

Do you find that the ASUS Probe Utility always reads 10 degrees centigrade higher than the Hardware Monitor in the BIOS?

My CPU is also running hot and I have a Coolermaster 6I31. The probe utility reads about 57 idle and 62 load but the BIOS reading is exactly 10 degrees lower (I have 98SE installed). Not only this but Probe voltage readings are about 3.6 for the PCI bus and 1.8 for the VCore?

I havn't had any lockups or anything and my sound works fine. Rafael is right because my SBLive is in the 3rd PCI slot. >>



D/l the latest Asus Probe ver 2.14.04 from Asus Website to correctly read ur temp.