High Compatibility by LMG (When did games start being less fun?)

VIAN

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This is a video on relationship compatibility between Little Miss Gamer and other gamer types. She makes some interesting points, especially near the end where she asks when did games start being less fun. Below the link I made some comments where I try to answer that question.

Note: I'm not a fan of Little Miss Gamer, so even if you don't like the show, be sure to check out other videos on the website, specifically from That Guy With The Glasses/Nostalgia Critic. Those are great.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.c...186-high-compatibility

In Little Miss Gamer's category of games, I'd probably be between a Casual and Hardcore gamer. I like to keep playing newer games, prefer to play alone and singleplayer games 95% of the time.

My girlfriend is a Casual gamer. She owns consoles, but barely plays them, and is not interested in beating games, ever. She plays for enjoyment in the moment. If a game is too hard, she stops playing because it becomes frustrating and thus, not enjoyable. This makes sense, but it still frustrates me - why play games if you're not going to beat them due to a little frustration. I guess I like to take the whole game into consideration.

Little Miss Gamer also brought up another interesting topic. When did games start being less fun? This could have many answers and I have a few.

It happened when we started to grow up. I never realized this when I was young playing NES games, but most of the time, with the exception of Super Mario games, I couldn't finish the games because they were too hard... and I would play the same levels over and over and over. We didn't mind repeating things then. Also, something that seemed like a huge level back then is just a 5 minute thing today. Today, we have less time probably due to college or work, thus creating a deficiency in the patience we used to have to waste all that time without caring. And prioritization on spending, forces me to investigate a game so that I make a smart purchase and get the most for my money.

I don't know from a girl's perspective, but from a guy's perspective, social gaming is very competitive. Guys would tell me that they were better than me in skill, intelligence, etc, because they finished this game on this difficulty or were able to solve a certain puzzle without any help. These people would humiliate me, especially in front of others. This made me take games more seriously. I'm sure this took a hand in the way I approach games, but for the negative side. Game designers were also partly responsible. Instead of making the game fun, they put cool items in hidden locations which you could only find if you searched every inch of the map. Systematic searching is not fun, except for the bragging rights later. This makes you plan more and playing less for the moment. Playing for the moment is fun. I guess this is why I prefer more linear games to big non-linear ones.

I'm sure there are more things that contribute to games being less fun as we grow up. This is why I most certainly agree with Little Miss Gamer that some of us need to reevaluate our ideals when it comes to playing games in order to inject the old fun back into gaming. I guess, in a small way, my girlfriend has it right.
 

nakedfrog

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I don't suppose there's a text transcription of the video?

Who says video games stopped being fun? Why would you still play them if you believe that?
 

VIAN

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no, there is a lot of dialogue.

I don't think they've completely stopped being fun, but it doesn't seem as fun as it used to be. The OP is fixed.
 

oznerol

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The whole "gamer" concept was created so that the nerds who were left out of all the other groups could associate themselves with other people so that they didn't feel like complete outcasts.

Typically these people grow up, realize video games are a hobby like anything else, don't let it define them, and enjoy them for what they are - just another form of entertainment. Sometimes these people grow up and can't let go of the "gamer" notion, and either become retro-gaming snobs or elitist gamer douchebags. Generally these people work in Gamestop (this was pretty accurately depicted in the video).

Games were hard back then not because people liked hard games, or that they were more fun, but because of limitations with the hardware/software. Games become less fun because you become less young. Today, a 12 year old will choose Super Mario Galaxy over Super Mario Bros every time. They will think Goldeneye sucks. They will be bored with Doom. A 30 year old who grew up playing these originals might not think the same way, but the choice is much more dependent on nostalgia than anything else. Even moderately acceptable games of today are better than the glory days of the 8-bit era. I would rather play Too Human or Assassin's Creed over that stupid Kiwi game she was playing any day of the week.

What I find pretty funny is that 4 out of the 5 types of gamers she listed were complete assholes. The only moderately normal human being was the "casual" gamer who !gasp! might not even own his own console! Blasphemy!
 

Yreka

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Originally posted by: ducci
The whole "gamer" concept was created so that the nerds who were left out of all the other groups could associate themselves with other people so that they didn't feel like complete outcasts.

Typically these people grow up, realize video games are a hobby like anything else, don't let it define them, and enjoy them for what they are - just another form of entertainment. Sometimes these people grow up and can't let go of the "gamer" notion, and either become retro-gaming snobs or elitist gamer douchebags. Generally these people work in Gamestop (this was pretty accurately depicted in the video).

Games were hard back then not because people liked hard games, or that they were more fun, but because of limitations with the hardware/software. Games become less fun because you become less young. Today, a 12 year old will choose Super Mario Galaxy over Super Mario Bros every time. They will think Goldeneye sucks. They will be bored with Doom. A 30 year old who grew up playing these originals might not think the same way, but the choice is much more dependent on nostalgia than anything else. Even moderately acceptable games of today are better than the glory days of the 8-bit era. I would rather play Too Human or Assassin's Creed over that stupid Kiwi game she was playing any day of the week.

What I find pretty funny is that 4 out of the 5 types of gamers she listed were complete assholes. The only moderately normal human being was the "casual" gamer who !gasp! might not even own his own console! Blasphemy!

Great post :beer:
 

knawlejj

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Originally posted by: Yreka
Originally posted by: ducci
The whole "gamer" concept was created so that the nerds who were left out of all the other groups could associate themselves with other people so that they didn't feel like complete outcasts.

Typically these people grow up, realize video games are a hobby like anything else, don't let it define them, and enjoy them for what they are - just another form of entertainment. Sometimes these people grow up and can't let go of the "gamer" notion, and either become retro-gaming snobs or elitist gamer douchebags. Generally these people work in Gamestop (this was pretty accurately depicted in the video).

Games were hard back then not because people liked hard games, or that they were more fun, but because of limitations with the hardware/software. Games become less fun because you become less young. Today, a 12 year old will choose Super Mario Galaxy over Super Mario Bros every time. They will think Goldeneye sucks. They will be bored with Doom. A 30 year old who grew up playing these originals might not think the same way, but the choice is much more dependent on nostalgia than anything else. Even moderately acceptable games of today are better than the glory days of the 8-bit era. I would rather play Too Human or Assassin's Creed over that stupid Kiwi game she was playing any day of the week.

What I find pretty funny is that 4 out of the 5 types of gamers she listed were complete assholes. The only moderately normal human being was the "casual" gamer who !gasp! might not even own his own console! Blasphemy!

Great post :beer:

Agreed with pretty much everything here. Though I just got done playing through Goldeneye on my PC *cough* with my 360 controller and had a blast. I have access to more recent games that I could have easily chosen, but they seem to lose my attention 1-2 hours into it. Goldeneye couldn't do that.

We have a Wii in our dorm room, and have Super Mario Galaxy, which we all find extremely easy aside from a few parts. Though we fire up the old Virtual Console games, or some NES Java games and we can't even make it past the first few levels because it seems like they have just dumb downed the technique, logic, reflexes, and skill needed in today's games.

Just my .02 to back up what was said above.