High carb diet? Studys say yes!

Fausto

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....and thus, the current-diet-fad pendulum began to swing the other way.....


And....*gasp*...the people who actually exercised LOST EVEN MORE WEIGHT! OMG!! IT'S A FREAKING MIRACLE!!
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Ikonomi

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Originally posted by: xxAgentCowxx
so if i do atkins AND high carb, i lose double the weight, right?

Without a doubt.

This just gives me extra license to continue on my high protein, high carb diet, not that I needed encouragement. :p
 

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Originally posted by: Fausto
....and thus, the current-diet-fad pendulum began to swing the other way.....


And....*gasp*...the people who actually exercised LOST EVEN MORE WEIGHT! OMG!! IT'S A FREAKING MIRACLE!!
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agreed
 

WinkOsmosis

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So you mean you can get the carbohydrates you need, and your body uses the fats it has stored? Gasp!
 

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I discovered that the more carbs I eat, the leaner I get. I'm not sure why but I'm not complaining!
 

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Originally posted by: xmellyx
I discovered that the more carbs I eat, the leaner I get. I'm not sure why but I'm not complaining!

It all depends on the carbs, and your current mode of metabolism.

We wouldn't need all these diet fads if we stripped out all the junk food, sweets, sodas, etc. And wheat products are really causing problems. Bleached wheat is now the #1 filler for just about everything. If all your carbs were fruits, natural syrups (honey, maple), rices, potatoes, etc. you wouldn't have a problem.
 

Triumph

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Oh yeah, this study of 34 people is worthy enough to convince anyone! The evidence proposed here is overwhelming!
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Lots of different diets can work. But this study isn't even newsworthy. 34 people, not even 1/2 of them actually on the diet, and they can draw some kind of results and conclusions from that? That is laughable. I could do a better study by reading diet threads on AT and it would have more merit than this.
 

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I have a diet plan called intelligence and moderation. I'm intelligent about what I eat and I do it in moderation.

I'm still very skeptical about the long term success or healthyness of any diet plan that preaches the need of cutting out entire types of food or the increased consumption of certain types of food.

Keep your calories consumed under control, spread around what makes up those calories, toss in 90 minutes a week of cardio vascular exercise and you'll keep yourself in good shape assuming you don't have some sort of freak metabolism or thyroid probem.
 

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I have a diet plan called intelligence and moderation. I'm intelligent about what I eat and I do it in moderation.

I'm still very skeptical about the long term success or healthyness of any diet plan that preaches the need of cutting out entire types of food or the increased consumption of certain types of food.

Keep your calories consumed under control, spread around what makes up those calories, toss in 90 minutes a week of cardio vascular exercise and you'll keep yourself in good shape assuming you don't have some sort of freak metabolism or thyroid probem.

Check to all the above except for the thryoid disorder . :( I guess that why I can never gain enough weight!
 

edro

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Eating a 40% Carbs, 40% Protein, 20% Fats, Calories diet has been working for me. Or course, I am also working out about an hour and a half, 4 days a week.
 

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That article really is not that truthful, in a way. It said something about high fat in the South Beach Diet, and what I have read about that particular diet the gist of it was to cut out a lot of the 'bad' fats as well as unhealthy carbs. I believe even Atkins revised itself so most of the fats are good fats, not bacon grease.

Then they go on to say that the participants ate high fiber cereal, whole wheat spaghettie, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk. Damn, that would be the same stuff that is included in the Atkins, South Beach, and a lot of other ketogenic diets.

I call shenannigans.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Babbles
That article really is not that truthful, in a way. It said something about high fat in the South Beach Diet, and what I have read about that particular diet the gist of it was to cut out a lot of the 'bad' fats as well as unhealthy carbs. I believe even Atkins revised itself so most of the fats are good fats, not bacon grease.

Then they go on to say that the participants ate high fiber cereal, whole wheat spaghettie, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk. Damn, that would be the same stuff that is included in the Atkins, South Beach, and a lot of other ketogenic diets.
Uh....no. It's not. SB allows you somewhat more carbs than Atkins, but you're sure as hell not eating a big bowl of spaghetti at any point in the day.


 

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Babbles
That article really is not that truthful, in a way. It said something about high fat in the South Beach Diet, and what I have read about that particular diet the gist of it was to cut out a lot of the 'bad' fats as well as unhealthy carbs. I believe even Atkins revised itself so most of the fats are good fats, not bacon grease.

Then they go on to say that the participants ate high fiber cereal, whole wheat spaghettie, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk. Damn, that would be the same stuff that is included in the Atkins, South Beach, and a lot of other ketogenic diets.
Uh....no. It's not. SB allows you somewhat more carbs than Atkins, but you're sure as hell not eating a big bowl of spaghetti at any point in the day.

depends on how many carbs you're up too and how much of that is fiber.


eat less sugar, more fiber, and you'll most likely lose weight. seems to be what all these diet trends are pointing to.
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Babbles
That article really is not that truthful, in a way. It said something about high fat in the South Beach Diet, and what I have read about that particular diet the gist of it was to cut out a lot of the 'bad' fats as well as unhealthy carbs. I believe even Atkins revised itself so most of the fats are good fats, not bacon grease.

Then they go on to say that the participants ate high fiber cereal, whole wheat spaghettie, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk. Damn, that would be the same stuff that is included in the Atkins, South Beach, and a lot of other ketogenic diets.
Uh....no. It's not. SB allows you somewhat more carbs than Atkins, but you're sure as hell not eating a big bowl of spaghetti at any point in the day.

depends on how many carbs you're up too and how much of that is fiber.


eat less sugar, more fiber, and you'll most likely lose weight. seems to be what all these diet trends are pointing to.
ElFenix is right... Not in the earliest stages of course, but there is room for whole wheat pasta in both the Atkins and South Beach plans.

There are about a hundred different plans you can do to lose weight. I don't recall anyone saying that there was ONLY ONE SINGLE way to do it. I'm not sure why so many people here are chomping at the bit to bash Atkins and SB.
If you want to lose weight, find the plan that suits your lifestyle and stick with it. :)

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Babbles
That article really is not that truthful, in a way. It said something about high fat in the South Beach Diet, and what I have read about that particular diet the gist of it was to cut out a lot of the 'bad' fats as well as unhealthy carbs. I believe even Atkins revised itself so most of the fats are good fats, not bacon grease.

Then they go on to say that the participants ate high fiber cereal, whole wheat spaghettie, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk. Damn, that would be the same stuff that is included in the Atkins, South Beach, and a lot of other ketogenic diets.
Uh....no. It's not. SB allows you somewhat more carbs than Atkins, but you're sure as hell not eating a big bowl of spaghetti at any point in the day.

depends on how many carbs you're up too and how much of that is fiber.


eat less sugar, more fiber, and you'll most likely lose weight. seems to be what all these diet trends are pointing to.
ElFenix is right... Not in the earliest stages of course, but there is room for whole wheat pasta in both the Atkins and South Beach plans.

There are about a hundred different plans you can do to lose weight. I don't recall anyone saying that there was ONLY ONE SINGLE way to do it.
If you want to lose weight, find the one that suits your lifestyle and stick with it. :)
Right. The reason this diet works is because the participants took in a reasonable amount of calories (2,400 per day) with high fiber content and a mostly low glycemic-index with regard to carbs. Add some exercise and you'll lose weight. The same diet with simple carbs and low fiber wouldn't work nearly as well.

 

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Originally posted by: Fausto
....and thus, the current-diet-fad pendulum began to swing the other way.....


And....*gasp*...the people who actually exercised LOST EVEN MORE WEIGHT! OMG!! IT'S A FREAKING MIRACLE!!
rolleye.gif

That's what I am thinking. There is a hot new diet every other day.
Just exercise, how hard is that? And eat sensibly.

I saw Jack La Lanne on a TV interview this morning, he is 89 years old, and he looked really great. His "secret"? Exercise.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Babbles
That article really is not that truthful, in a way. It said something about high fat in the South Beach Diet, and what I have read about that particular diet the gist of it was to cut out a lot of the 'bad' fats as well as unhealthy carbs. I believe even Atkins revised itself so most of the fats are good fats, not bacon grease.

Then they go on to say that the participants ate high fiber cereal, whole wheat spaghettie, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk. Damn, that would be the same stuff that is included in the Atkins, South Beach, and a lot of other ketogenic diets.
Uh....no. It's not. SB allows you somewhat more carbs than Atkins, but you're sure as hell not eating a big bowl of spaghetti at any point in the day.

How am I wrong??

All I said about the South Beach Diet was that part of the aim is to cut bad fats and unhealthy carbs; oh like, I dunno, eating a big bowl of spaghetti. I know you can eat carbs, that is actually part of my ill-typed out point. However those come in the form of whole wheat foods, veggies, fruits, etcetera. Just like this study as reported by Yahoo.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Babbles
That article really is not that truthful, in a way. It said something about high fat in the South Beach Diet, and what I have read about that particular diet the gist of it was to cut out a lot of the 'bad' fats as well as unhealthy carbs. I believe even Atkins revised itself so most of the fats are good fats, not bacon grease.

Then they go on to say that the participants ate high fiber cereal, whole wheat spaghettie, fruits, veggies, and low fat milk. Damn, that would be the same stuff that is included in the Atkins, South Beach, and a lot of other ketogenic diets.
Uh....no. It's not. SB allows you somewhat more carbs than Atkins, but you're sure as hell not eating a big bowl of spaghetti at any point in the day.

How am I wrong??

All I said about the South Beach Diet was that part of the aim is to cut bad fats and unhealthy carbs; oh like, I dunno, eating a big bowl of spaghetti. I know you can eat carbs, that is actually part of my ill-typed out point. However those come in the form of whole wheat foods, veggies, fruits, etcetera. Just like this study as reported by Yahoo.
South Beach is still a relatively low-carb diet, so it's not anything like this study other than the source of the carbs. SB is much closer in approach to Atkins than the diet in the article.

 

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I eat pasta everyday on Atkins. Low carb pasta I bought at nob hill. Tonnes of fiber and only 1/4th the carbs of regular pasta.
 

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Everyone is different. Body make up and metabolism have a lot to do with maintaining good weight. Exercise can and will help everyone though. Eating properly and sensibly isnt the same thing for each person.