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dbarton

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When I'm on a website, the site can obviously see and record my IP address. What if I don't want site owners to know my IP? What if I want to use bittorrent or P2p stuff?
What if I want to read things that might be deemed "weird" by someone?

In these days of eroding privacy, is there a way to be more anonymous about what we do online?
 
Originally posted by: dbarton

When I'm on a website, the site can obviously see and record my IP address. What if I don't want site owners to know my IP? What if I want to use bittorrent or P2p stuff?
What if I want to read things that might be deemed "weird" by someone?

In these days of eroding privacy, is there a way to be more anonymous about what we do online?
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If you have a non-static IP from your ISP, rotate your MAC address and reset your modem to get a fresh IP after each venture into the realm of animal pr0n. 😛
 
That's like asking how you can get porn delivered to your house without giving them your name and address. It's just not possible.

You could use a proxy server for HTTP stuff and maybe some other protocols, but the proxy would still have your IP and it wouldn't work for P2P.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
That's like asking how you can get porn delivered to your house without giving them your name and address. It's just not possible.

You could use a proxy server for HTTP stuff and maybe some other protocols, but the proxy would still have your IP and it wouldn't work for P2P.
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If you continually spoof your MAC address for new IP's, no one will ever be able to trace it back to your computer without the ISP's help. It's like them one-time use credit cards.
 
And do you really trust your ISP not to help? And rotating your MAC and getting a new IP continually would be a real PITA.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
And do you really trust your ISP not to help? And rotating your MAC and getting a new IP continually would be a real PITA.
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the ISP won't help random people trace their users without a court order most likely.


PITA yes, but the OP requested a way (any way) to hide his bestialic tendencies. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: Nothinman
That's like asking how you can get porn delivered to your house without giving them your name and address. It's just not possible.

You could use a proxy server for HTTP stuff and maybe some other protocols, but the proxy would still have your IP and it wouldn't work for P2P.
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If you continually spoof your MAC address for new IP's, no one will ever be able to trace it back to your computer without the ISP's help. It's like them one-time use credit cards.
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Your going to be getting one out of a fairly small pool. Besides, they need the ISP help anyhow to do the initial IP lookup (why do you think the RIAA is supenaing the isps...) 'Rotating' as you put it really does little.
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: Nothinman
That's like asking how you can get porn delivered to your house without giving them your name and address. It's just not possible.

You could use a proxy server for HTTP stuff and maybe some other protocols, but the proxy would still have your IP and it wouldn't work for P2P.
Click to expand...

If you continually spoof your MAC address for new IP's, no one will ever be able to trace it back to your computer without the ISP's help. It's like them one-time use credit cards.
Click to expand...

Your going to be getting one out of a fairly small pool. Besides, they need the ISP help anyhow to do the initial IP lookup (why do you think the RIAA is supenaing the isps...) 'Rotating' as you put it really does little.
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Maybe for legal actions from file sharing the ISP will be involved. However, I don't see how a website owner will be able to trace a particular visitor using the method i suggested.

edit: comment about the :roll: removed 😉
 
If they didn't know your IP address, how would they know where to send the data your browser requests?
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
If they didn't know your IP address, how would they know where to send the data your browser requests?
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If you change your IP after visiting the site, they no longer have your real IP. It's like the one-use credit card number thing I mentioned before. They have a no longer used IP with no viable means to trace it back to you without legal action to force your ISP to give up their logs.
 
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: Sunner
If they didn't know your IP address, how would they know where to send the data your browser requests?
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If you change your IP after visiting the site, they no longer have your real IP. It's like the one-use credit card number thing I mentioned before. They have a no longer used IP with no viable means to trace it back to you without legal action to force your ISP to give up their logs.
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And if you don't change your IP they are in the same boat. They have no way of knowing that one request now and one in 5 minutes even from the same ip is the same user. Way too many dialup pools, proxy servers, nat's, etc for that to work. They have to go back to the ISP to get the logs.

Bill

p.s. :roll: removed 😉
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: Sunner
If they didn't know your IP address, how would they know where to send the data your browser requests?
Click to expand...

If you change your IP after visiting the site, they no longer have your real IP. It's like the one-use credit card number thing I mentioned before. They have a no longer used IP with no viable means to trace it back to you without legal action to force your ISP to give up their logs.
Click to expand...

And if you don't change your IP they are in the same boat. They have no way of knowing that one request now and one in 5 minutes even from the same ip is the same user. Way too many dialup pools, proxy servers, nat's, etc for that to work. They have to go back to the ISP to get the logs.

Bill

p.s. :roll: removed 😉
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So the answer really is: look at all the pr0n you want, you're still anonymous!
 
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: Sunner
If they didn't know your IP address, how would they know where to send the data your browser requests?
Click to expand...

If you change your IP after visiting the site, they no longer have your real IP. It's like the one-use credit card number thing I mentioned before. They have a no longer used IP with no viable means to trace it back to you without legal action to force your ISP to give up their logs.
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How would they track it to you even if you still used it?
And IP address doesn't tell anything useful unless they can get additional info from your ISP.

Of course this is a silly discussion, like n0c said, there's no way to be completely anonymous on the net, and unless you're doing something fishy, there's no reason to either.
 
Originally posted by: Sunner
How would they track it to you even if you still used it?
And IP address doesn't tell anything useful unless they can get additional info from your ISP.

Of course this is a silly discussion, like n0c said, there's no way to be completely anonymous on the net, and unless you're doing something fishy, there's no reason to either.
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Freenet supposidly provides complete anonymity, but it's like using a pigeon IP.
 
It doe not matter whether you change your IP or not.

In order to get your personal information the investigator need info from your ISP and the ISP knows who you are even if you change it frequently. Same is with Proxies service they might lend you their IP but they know yours.

Actually it is relatively easy to find an Internet culprit.

The reason that it seems that a lot is done and no one is found is because a lot of the illegal stuff it done through countries that do not cooperate with International low enforcement. These regimes either do not care or actually might like the idea of thier . citizens making money of ?Rich? people in well to do countries.

:sun:

P.S. Might be easier to use you ingenuity to get a Nice computer related job make some money,:thumbsup: and Not to feel like a thief in the dark of night.:thumbsdown:


 
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: dbarton

When I'm on a website, the site can obviously see and record my IP address. What if I don't want site owners to know my IP? What if I want to use bittorrent or P2p stuff?
What if I want to read things that might be deemed "weird" by someone?

In these days of eroding privacy, is there a way to be more anonymous about what we do online?
Click to expand...

If you have a non-static IP from your ISP, rotate your MAC address and reset your modem to get a fresh IP after each venture into the realm of animal pr0n. 😛
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I don't see how this could work for cable modems or dsl. For my cable modem, the MAC address is registered to the cable company with my info, I can't change it, if I did I wouldn't get access. With dsl, if you change your mac addy (how you would I don't know) you'd have to relogin thus registering your account with that mac addy.

I suggest looking into proxy servers, and change them often.
 
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