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Lifer
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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Jadow
Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
I wonder where all the outrage is over black only organizations and events.

Such as?

Andy

the NBA draft

HAHAHA:)

Seriously though, the way I look at it, events such as Black Miss USA etc, appear a lot less offending than say a White Miss USA is that Blacks have been oppressed for so long. i don't really think it's a minority issue as much as it is an oppression one. White people were the oppressors, so when they have an exclusionary activity such as a white only prom, it appears as though they are once again oppressing blacks. Black people were the ones being oppressed, so a black only activity may be a forum where they feel that they can be judged fairly and eqally. Like I said earlier, I don't think it is a minority issue because most minorities in the US did not have to deal with the stigma of slavery nor were they affected by such things as the civil rights movement. Of course, I am not black, so everything I'm saying is strictly IMO. If there is anyone black who would like to offer a different perspective on this issue, I think it would be really interesting.
So it's about being oppressed huh? In that case we need a Miss Irish USA, Miss Chinese USA, and a Miss Native American USA. Those groups so as much, though different, oppression as blacks did in this country.

 

Nitemare

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What amazes me is the passing of Plessy v Ferguson reiterating the policy of racial segregation. So much for abe's platform of liberating blacks...

The principal of that school needs to be hauled before the State Board of Education and explain how 40 years after the ending of segregation, his school can give such a black eye to the South.
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: przero
How about a Miss White USA?

You see, that is my point, that just sounds racist even if it doesn't intend to. Like we've seen, there is a Miss Native America. Miss Irish etc. but, IMO, these do not appear offensive. I don't know, but does anyone else feel that way? I know it's a double standard, but the thing we need to point out is that all these competitions are for minorities, whereas Miss White USA is geared to the majority, hence includes a large amount of the population while blatantly excluding a select few, especially those who have been historically excluded and oppressed by a very large chunk of white America. I'm not saying that this is right, it's just my take on the matter.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: przero
How about a Miss White USA?

You see, that is my point, that just sounds racist even if it doesn't intend to. Like we've seen, there is a Miss Native America. Miss Irish etc. but, IMO, these do not appear offensive. I don't know, but does anyone else feel that way? I know it's a double standard, but the thing we need to point out is that all these competitions are for minorities, whereas Miss White USA is geared to the majority, hence includes a large amount of the population while blatantly excluding a select few, especially those who have been historically excluded and oppressed by a very large chunk of white America. I'm not saying that this is right, it's just my take on the matter.

So discriminating against the majority is OK?

I really don't give a rats ass anymore about racial issues. Americans are Americans and if you want a special label so be it but you won't hear me say them from now on. If these people need to separate themselves from the rest of the crowd to feel like they attained something so be it. I would rather have a level playing field in ALL aspects of Life - and isn't that what they all claim they want too? If so, they why to "they" feel the need to catagorize themselves if not to try to gain speacial favor due to past oppresions?

CkG
 

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: przero
How about a Miss White USA?

You see, that is my point, that just sounds racist even if it doesn't intend to. Like we've seen, there is a Miss Native America. Miss Irish etc. but, IMO, these do not appear offensive. I don't know, but does anyone else feel that way? I know it's a double standard, but the thing we need to point out is that all these competitions are for minorities, whereas Miss White USA is geared to the majority, hence includes a large amount of the population while blatantly excluding a select few, especially those who have been historically excluded and oppressed by a very large chunk of white America. I'm not saying that this is right, it's just my take on the matter.

So discriminating against the majority is OK?

I really don't give a rats ass anymore about racial issues. Americans are Americans and if you want a special label so be it but you won't hear me say them from now on. If these people need to separate themselves from the rest of the crowd to feel like they attained something so be it. I would rather have a level playing field in ALL aspects of Life - and isn't that what they all claim they want too? If so, they why to "they" feel the need to catagorize themselves if not to try to gain speacial favor due to past oppresions?

CkG


I never said it was, I was trying to offer a theory on the matter. Americans are Americans, yeah, but unfortunately, some Americans are still more equal than others if you know what I mean. I don't think white people need to have white only events and any attempt to do so is just provocative. I would like to have a level playing field in ALL aspects of life as well, but I think you can agree that that is not the case. I do not agree with affirmative action, and I don't agree with segregation for the prom either. Besides, the prom scandal was based on the racist notion that blacks and whites may intermingle, a Miss Black America contest is so black women can be judged by fellow black people, and not have to deal with the real or perceived bias of white judges, I don't think they do it to maliciously exclude white people IMO.
 

Pers

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heh all i have to say is

de facto segregation - de jure segregation

when white realtors make an effort to not sell homes to black people in white suburbia type neighborhoods.

it happens all of the time. Blacks are still treated like dirt by whites. The least they can do is allow them to have

a pageant for themselves.

edit: the pageant can be an illusion to the rest of the "U.S. is the best" believers of the country that we live in the perfect melting pot where everyone loves each other
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
What amazes me is the passing of Plessy v Ferguson reiterating the policy of racial segregation. So much for abe's platform of liberating blacks...

The principal of that school needs to be hauled before the State Board of Education and explain how 40 years after the ending of segregation, his school can give such a black eye to the South.

who the hell said segregation no longer exists? heh. the world is painted in pretty colors for most people i guess.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Georgians Plan Whites-Only Prom Party

In retaliation to the first(!!) integrated prom in the history of this community of hicks, a number of white students are planning on holding a separate "white only" prom! I could not beleive this! The best part is, they have a white student body president and a black one. Does anyone else find this absolutely amazing? In 21st century America, none the less. I'm dumbfounded, and I'm a Texan!

actually the article implies that 31 years ago they had at least one integrated prom
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Georgians Plan Whites-Only Prom Party

In retaliation to the first(!!) integrated prom in the history of this community of hicks, a number of white students are planning on holding a separate "white only" prom! I could not beleive this! The best part is, they have a white student body president and a black one. Does anyone else find this absolutely amazing? In 21st century America, none the less. I'm dumbfounded, and I'm a Texan!

actually the article implies that 31 years ago they had at least one integrated prom

Actually no, it says very clearly in the first line that they only had their first integrated prom a year ago:

"A year after holding their first integrated prom, some students at Taylor County High School have decided to again hold a separate, private party for whites only. "

"Juniors are in charge of planning the prom each year and last year they decided to have just one dance ? the first integrated prom in 31 years in the rural Georgia county 150 miles south of Atlanta.

Until then, parents and students organized separate proms for whites and blacks after school officials stopped sponsoring dances, in part because they wanted to avoid problems arising from interracial dating. "

This means that until last year, when they had the FIRST integrated prom, 31 years since the school decided to stop sponsoring the event, parents had to organize prom and they held separate ones. Learn to read.
 

Pers

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Georgians Plan Whites-Only Prom Party

In retaliation to the first(!!) integrated prom in the history of this community of hicks, a number of white students are planning on holding a separate "white only" prom! I could not beleive this! The best part is, they have a white student body president and a black one. Does anyone else find this absolutely amazing? In 21st century America, none the less. I'm dumbfounded, and I'm a Texan!

actually the article implies that 31 years ago they had at least one integrated prom

nice try
 

przero

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Why would that astound you? We have a Black Legislative Caucus! You can't continue to be racist and decry racism. Even if it is under the guise of previous "oppression". If you don't want "all white" events, you can't have "all black" events.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Nitemare
What amazes me is the passing of Plessy v Ferguson reiterating the policy of racial segregation. So much for abe's platform of liberating blacks...

The principal of that school needs to be hauled before the State Board of Education and explain how 40 years after the ending of segregation, his school can give such a black eye to the South.

who the hell said segregation no longer exists? heh. the world is painted in pretty colors for most people i guess.

Yup I guess we should tolerate and stand by and do nothing then...
 

DZip

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I read that this was not a school prom, but a private prom put on for white students by the white parents and students. If this is the case, private means invitation only, and protected by law. What this demonstrates is the difference between legal and right. It was legal, but it was not right.

It concerns me that so many people in that school community did not find this to be wrong and voice their opposition. The school board, mayor, or governor should have voiced their opposition. Failure to do so only demonstrates that they must agree with it. Apparently this white community is still a racist community. I hope that this is not the feeling of most Georgians. This is the 21st century, and an American is a person regardless of size, shape, or color.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: WhiteKnight77
Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
I wonder where all the outrage is over black only organizations and events.

Such as?

Andy

Haven't you heard of Black History Month or Black Miss USA pagent. If there was a White History Month or a White Miss USA pagent the civil rights leaders would be screaming bloody murder. Truth be told I feel that blacks are bigger racists than whites. Now before you think I am that way, I am not. Civil rights leaders scream for equality all the time, but they can't get past having Black this or Black that. What about quotas and affirmative action. It may have been needed at one time, but it's a dead horse now too.

Sadly I have to agree with you on this.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: WhiteKnight77
Originally posted by: Fencer128
Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
I wonder where all the outrage is over black only organizations and events.

Such as?

Andy

Haven't you heard of Black History Month or Black Miss USA pagent. If there was a White History Month or a White Miss USA pagent the civil rights leaders would be screaming bloody murder. Truth be told I feel that blacks are bigger racists than whites. Now before you think I am that way, I am not. Civil rights leaders scream for equality all the time, but they can't get past having Black this or Black that. What about quotas and affirmative action. It may have been needed at one time, but it's a dead horse now too.

Never heard of that as I am British. How is Black History Month denying whites in the same way black people are denied entry to a white only prom?

I agree that a miss black USA could be taken for equivalent to a miss white USA and so be offending.

Cheers,

Andy

Events like Ms Black USA and Black History Month are the results of over 200 years of US, apartheid, separate but unequal policies. Until recently, in the US people with dark skin were denied participation in most cultural, educational, economic activities.

So what you're saying is this:

The correct way to make up for 200 years of indignities and discrimination, by previous generations, is to create policies which focus the discimination on a different group?

Forgive me for pulling a Wayne Campbell, but that makes total sense. Not.

The way to make up for a past of discrimination is to end the discrimination and make everyone equal. Let's start by removing race from college, loan, and other such applications. Where we go from there is up to you.

I am saying that if the US had not a racist country for the last 200 years there would not have been any need for events like Ms Black USA and Black History Month.
 

przero

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Dr Smooth - Give me a break. Just and excuse to be racist. The same racism you decry!
 

MinorityReport

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I have a small question :

How come the Blacks ( PC forgive me : African Americans ) never asked for a seprate state or nation from mainstream America ?

Jihad time :D


Now, I think we need to send few harlem brothers and few ones from Gates ave ,Jersey City NJ, to rural Georgia for that prom.

And get a movie crew .. with Hustler sponsored event managers :D


Scenario : Suppose they have a white only and black only prom.

Where will the other races go ? I mean asians, semi-caucasians ( indians, arabs, east asians, etc etc ) ? Poor souls .. I am one of them stuck between the odds of human DNA variations.