Question Hi guys. I have a big problem my pc is closing every game i open right to desktop without error or anything else no bsod just right to desktop.

Maragkoulias

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I have checked everything i even changed a psu i have test graphic card and rams the only thing that i havent check is motherboard could motherboard cause such a problem?Tempretures are underneath 35c
 

VirtualLarry

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Checked that your Visual C/C++ Runtimes are up-to-date? If this is a new install, most programs need those installed as "helper libraries", but most don't ship with them, because most people already have them on their system.

One of the symptoms of running an application that depends on those libraries, is that the application simply exits.

Another reason is that the application needs help, as in, "Run as Administrator...", on the .exe file, because it's an older Win9x (pre-WinNT/2000/XP) game, and expects to have system-level access for whatever reason. (Some casino games are like that too, because they launch system-level anti-cheating monitors, that are kind of like anti-virus programs, in the manner in which they "hook" system calls to monitor the system.)

Edit: Lastly, if running Vista/Win7/Win10, check Reliability Monitor, see if it shows appcrashes/quits, and if there's any sort of error code that you can Google.
 

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i have everything every driver updated every visuall every runtime i have done 3 formats 3 days ago i was fine and suddenly this happened every game i open after a little time it closes right to desktop with no error or anything else i have searched every forum i could possibly find i am starting to think that is a hardware problem but i cant understand whats going on
 

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the thing is how a hardware can only affect a game and not the entire pc i have stress test the entire pc but nothing shows up like a problem i am out of ideas...
 

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Open up Control Panel, Add/Remove Software, and show me an ALT+PrntScrn (Paste into the forum, or paste into Paint.exe, save as a file, and upload the file to the forum.)

Show me what Visual C/C++ Runtimes that you actually have installed. If you don't have the right one installed for the app, it can just quit to desktop on you just like that.

Btw, Blizzard Games are the worst for this problem, is it a Blizzard game?
 

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the main games i am currently playing is pubg counterstrike witcher 3 and fifa19
 

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I've got the 2008 versions installed too, you seem to be missing those. You also want to have both the x86 and x64 versions, just to be complete, of the ones that you do have. Sometimes, the game will be x64 (64-bit), but the launcher will be x86 (32-bit).

Edit: Hmm, I don't have any of the 2010 versions, but you only seem to have the x86 version (32-bit) on your system, you probably want the x64 (64-bit) version too, you want BOTH of them.
 
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So, find and install the 2008 x86, 2008 x64, and 2010 x64 versions, and then see if your games run. Maybe DirectX9 runtime is needed too. (Although, if running in DX11/DX12 mode, wouldn't think so.)

Edit: To avoid the risk of viruses, only download those runtimes from www.microsoft.com .
 

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If that doesn't fix it, then there's a possibility that Windows Defender or Malwarebytes is killing off the process, this can happen if your PC has a virus, and it has spread to your games. Though, after a re-format, if you download them again from official sites, this shouldn't be the case.

Oh, also hit WinKey+S, type "Reliability", hit ENTER, and then hit ALT+PrntScrn on the Reliability Monitor app, and show what that is showing, if you're having hardware errors, that should show it.
 

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Another thing that can cause this to happen is a video driver crash. You might try rolling the driver back from the current driver back to a recent prior driver release.
 

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Another thing that can cause this to happen is a video driver crash. You might try rolling the driver back from the current driver back to a recent prior driver release.
I have done this bro i will try virutal larry solution the thruth is that i havent thought that a virus could expose my whole D drive so i will check it and use reliability as you said
 

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As you can see, my system has hardly been crash-free either. Note the bolded "Hardware Error". I would expect to see those, if your GPU and/or driver for the GPU actually crashed you out of the game. If it's just an appcrash, it will show the name of the application, and "Stopped Working".

If it's a missing Visual Studio Runtime, it may not even show up as an appcrash in Reliability Monitor.

Edit: Also, open Windows Defender , under Settings, Updates and Security, and Windows Defender, click around and see if you see anything about reports or reported detections. That will show if Windows Defender stopped a process due to a found piece of malware (virus).
 
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That was one of my favorite little discoveries, and one of the first things I install these days. That + chipset and GPU drivers + DirectX (for DX9 and legacy titles) gets you basically home free for a new build out.

OP, do you have any spare drives you could hook up in place of your current one? Unless you have an enormously terrible PC or old dying HDD, installing a test install of Windows (get the new v1909 by googling 'Windows 10 ISO', run the little USB builder tool from MS, and install a clean UEFI OS to double check with. End to end this is like 15 minutes of work.

If everything is running fine with a clean install, then your software was borked somehow previously. If it still does the same thing, you may have some odd gremlins somewhere.

Games require the GPU to ramp up from basically idling in 2D UI, to much more demanding power use and heat output. Although it doesn't sound like this is precisely the case you're having, it can't be immediately ruled out either.

As always, process of elimination is key :

AIO Visual C pack will take care of that
DirectX update
GPU driver
Chipset driver (not entirely necessary with some builds, but I do this anyway haha)
Windows updates.
Any critical AGESA or firmware updates as required.
Double check BIOS configuration and reported power measurements. +12V, +5V, +3.3V should be nominally in those ranges.
Depending on Mobo you can disable XMP and manually spec out a loosey goosey lazy clock to rule out borderline ram.
If you have an integrated or spare GPU to use, even if it's fairly awful, it is still enough to test and rule out that component.
Ditto checking out alternative power supply if you have one handy or a willing buddy in the area to supply something usable to cross that off your list.

After all of that, then you're left with CPU and/or Mobo. Which is far less fun or easy for most people to come up with a matching spare to do that level of process of elimination. But we could cross that bridge after literally everything else is ruled out : clean OS, alternative HDD or SSD, basic Ram timings and default Mobo settings, and so on.

All this sounds big, but if you make a list and run it down, you should be through the entire component and platform process of elimination in under an hour.
 
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Hey, that VCRT AIO is GREAT! I was wondering if there was something like that. OP, TechPowerUp should be a safe site to download from too, I would try that pack.
 
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Have you run a system stability test like Prime95? It might not hurt to do a short test session before you waste any more time fighting with drivers so that you at least know all of your hardware is good. Just because your power supply or memory works in another system doesn't mean it is stable under load.
 

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Please provide a list of the components that you have installed in your machine.
 

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Have you tried moving the video card over to the second PCIe slot? And, I presume you are running everything (including memory) at stock speeds? And, are you running the most recent BIOS? Do you have both PCIe power cables hooked up to the 2080 Super?
 
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Yes bro everything is as supposed to be tried different PcIe slot try different Gpu i changed PSU i try all memmories by one at different slots i format everything again and again what the heck.... can motheboard malfuction and the only problem to be are games ? I cant figure out
 

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Yes everything is correct. The last thing i remember is finish the dragonball Z kakarot and starting to play forza horizon 4 after 1 hour of playing forza close unexpectedly and i was trying to find out whats happening after a lots hours i gave up and unistalled it then went to play pubg and closed to then i find out that my pc is closing every game
 

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Well, it could either be the motherboard, the power supply, or the graphics card. Since you've changed the power supply and GPU, it leaves a motherboard problem. I presume you've tried to reset the BIOS to defaults and also tried a prior BIOS? If so, I'd suspect something has gone bad on your motherboard.
 
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Yes.. i rolled back bios and i update it again .... and as i know there is no way to check the motherboard to find out if there is a problem i think for sure is a hardware problem because it was sudden and after 4 formats nothing could go wrong....