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[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Growing up Japanese and having been in Japan, including living there, I would have to disagree.

I would argue though that a very pretty Japanese girl would be far prettier than a very pretty Korean girl but on average, Korean girls are much better looking. If you haven't been to Korea, you wouldn't know what I'm talking about.

I would also disagree about marrying Korean. I actually think Japanese girls are better to marry because they are not as materialistic and argumentative as Korean girls. But I don't want to start a flame war. This is from my first hand experience living in Japan and marrying a Korean girl.

I grew up in NYC btw so I've been around all ethnicities not just those 2.

Here is the problem....you didn't cover the demographics of either culture enough to know them as a whole, just what you have experienced.

My wife is Japanese from Japan only about 3 years ago now. She is older than me and I am 33. She is very opiniated and not submissive at all.

The whole 'if you haven't been there' thing is a stopping statement, not one that proves your point. There is a lot of media and it's not to hard to pull up web cams all over the world now and see a people in their day to day routine.

You have age groups of any nationality/culture that are very different from the rest. You can start right here and realize it easily. A girl of 15-16 is a lot different than a 21-23 year old, than a late 20's than a mid 30's than a 40 something, than beyond.

Women as a whole are basically the same all over the world especially in a bedroom where verbal communication is less important than body language and actions.

 

[Doggiedog]

Here we go again.

Fine.

In my age group (I am 34) I find Japanese women to be less argumentative and materialistic than Korean and Chinese women.

I haven't been back to Japan in about 5 years and I know alot has changed (ie Kogals) but a culture does not change that rapidly.

Being married to a Japanese woman you should know how they are brought up. Japanese women are culturally much more different than Korean or Chinese. I've gone out with enough Korean and Chinese girls to know they talk back while Japanese girls usually do not. But again, your experience may differ from mine. Considering I grew up in a Japanese household, traveled to Japan frequently when I was a kid and lived and worked there after college I might know a little bit about Japanese women.

 

[welst10]

I dated a Japanese girl a few yrs back. She's attractive, but definitely not submissive. She's 3 yrs older than me and has a master's degree. She's opiniated and always thinks she's right, and pretty bossy too. I was kinda like that too. So we got into arguements pretty often and broke up later on. Now I regreted it a little. I mean what's the point of arguing with a girl.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: welst10
I dated a Japanese girl a few yrs back. She's attractive, but definitely not submissive. She's 3 yrs older than me and has a master's degree. She's opiniated and always thinks she's right, and pretty bossy too. I was kinda like that too. So we got into arguements pretty often and broke up later on. Now I regreted it a little. I mean what's the point of arguing with a girl.

Did you date an Americanized girl with Japanese heritage (i.e.phenotype and genotype are Japanese but she's an American) or are you talking about someone raised in Japan who came over here, or someone who you met in Japan? There are major differences...

 

[Zombie]

Where are the pictures of sluty school girls I keeping hearing about in news.

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: Zombie
Where are the pictures of sluty school girls I keeping hearing about in news.

bwahahahahahahahahahaahahaha........! so blunt.

 

[yhelothar]

pics of chinatsu?!

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Passions

Can you point me to this forum link? I'd like to read on that. As far as I know, if you are white and somewhat "normal," you can get TONS of girls wanting your mansauce.

forum.japantoday.com I think is one.

One *should* be able to get TONS of girls anywhere. It's all about approaching them or keeping the conversation heading in the right direction once they approach you....skills many cannot do. Being in Japan will not change that. Just travelling in america you can get the same vibe from chicks knowing you are new in town. Many guys/girls do well travelling as they become alter egos on the road....more so going out of country.

From saying 'as far as I know' are you just assuming the myths are true?

oh so true,
i went back to europe the other year and had great success in those endeavors. Its all about the attitude really

 

[dc]

lol, so many generalizations and stereotypes in this thread.

wooo, i see a maki pic in that thread. <3
ooo, i see a aya pic also. yay.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Here we go again.

Fine.

In my age group (I am 34) I find Japanese women to be less argumentative and materialistic than Korean and Chinese women.

I haven't been back to Japan in about 5 years and I know alot has changed (ie Kogals) but a culture does not change that rapidly.

Being married to a Japanese woman you should know how they are brought up. Japanese women are culturally much more different than Korean or Chinese. I've gone out with enough Korean and Chinese girls to know they talk back while Japanese girls usually do not. But again, your experience may differ from mine. Considering I grew up in a Japanese household, traveled to Japan frequently when I was a kid and lived and worked there after college I might know a little bit about Japanese women.

It's not about 'here we go again' there is no need to get defensive. No one is contesting what you experienced, but experience and life as a whole are usually very different.

Saying you grew up in a Japanese household means what...and even that is a isolated example. Traveling to japan as a kid taught you what about women really....most grow up here and don't understand them and then you taught school for JHS for a few years, and left 5 years ago...chances are you experienced only women mid 20's and younger...and who knows how many where you can pick up a woman's real personality....I will tell you this when you are just sacking them you aren't getting their real deal.

And then you bring up you have gone out with Korean and Chinese woman. Still fine but were these Americans? If so that is typical of all american women even japanese-americans.

I am just saying you are talking about an extremely narrow piece of the pie to be making such broad statements (pun intended).

I am not trying to turn this into any flamefest.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: dc
lol, so many generalizations and stereotypes in this thread.

wooo, i see a maki pic in that thread. <3
ooo, i see a aya pic also. yay.

maki? aya? who? where? PICS?

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Here we go again.

Fine.

In my age group (I am 34) I find Japanese women to be less argumentative and materialistic than Korean and Chinese women.

I haven't been back to Japan in about 5 years and I know alot has changed (ie Kogals) but a culture does not change that rapidly.

Being married to a Japanese woman you should know how they are brought up. Japanese women are culturally much more different than Korean or Chinese. I've gone out with enough Korean and Chinese girls to know they talk back while Japanese girls usually do not. But again, your experience may differ from mine. Considering I grew up in a Japanese household, traveled to Japan frequently when I was a kid and lived and worked there after college I might know a little bit about Japanese women.

It's not about 'here we go again' there is no need to get defensive. No one is contesting what you experienced, but experience and life as a whole are usually very different.

Saying you grew up in a Japanese household means what...and even that is a isolated example. Traveling to japan as a kid taught you what about women really....most grow up here and don't understand them and then you taught school for JHS for a few years, and left 5 years ago...chances are you experienced only women mid 20's and younger...and who knows how many where you can pick up a woman's real personality....I will tell you this when you are just sacking them you aren't getting their real deal.

And then you bring up you have gone out with Korean and Chinese woman. Still fine but were these Americans? If so that is typical of all american women even japanese-americans.

I am just saying you are talking about an extremely narrow piece of the pie to be making such broad statements (pun intended).

I am not trying to turn this into any flamefest.

I say here we go again bc for some reason we (meaning alkemyst and doggiedog) always seem to get into these arguments regardless of whether they are about SUVs or Japanese women. And it always stems from your assumptions that you know something about me and that you always know everything there is to know.

Truth is, I've never gone out with a Japanese American girl but I have gone out with native Japanese girls. In fact, I dated one for 4 years after college. I've worked at a large Japanese bank as well as having taught in Japan. Considering I was born in Japan and raised in a Japanese household (I couldn't speak English until I was 5) I believe I am more than familiar with Japanese culture. I'm no expert on Korean and Chinese cultures but I think I am sharp enough to see cultural differences between the peoples. Sure generalizations don't apply to everything but when you are talking about a large group of people, there are definite trends or patterns you can see.

Maybe my info isn't up to date but from my past experience, that is how I would classify the women. And if you don't believe me about the looks of Japanese women, walk around in Tokyo for a day then walk around Seoul. There is a noticeable quality difference. Even the OP has stated that. Not saying that there aren't any pretty Japanese girls. From my observations, its more like 5%. I think even my 3 sisters would agree to that

 

[poopygood]

heh, this thread got interesting for me as well.

I am also married to a Native Japanese woman and we have been living in the USA now for 6 years. Unfortunately for me, (joking) she is not submissive at all and is also very opinionated (She is 25, I?m 27), and very materialistic (at least with fashion, could car less about cars ).
I can say this though, all of her female friends/relatives around her age are submissive to their S.O.?s or parents (especially to their DAD?s). We have talked about this many times, and agree that it is not due to the fact that she has experienced American culture, as she always stood up to her parents and said what she felt while she was growing up?

I?m not touching the whole Korea vs Japan topic


BTW, nice pics MAME.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
I say here we go again bc for some reason we (meaning alkemyst and doggiedog) always seem to get into these arguments regardless of whether they are about SUVs or Japanese women. And it always stems from your assumptions that you know something about me and that you always know everything there is to know.

Truth is, I've never gone out with a Japanese American girl but I have gone out with native Japanese girls. In fact, I dated one for 4 years after college. I've worked at a large Japanese bank as well as having taught in Japan. Considering I was born in Japan and raised in a Japanese household (I couldn't speak English until I was 5) I believe I am more than familiar with Japanese culture. I'm no expert on Korean and Chinese cultures but I think I am sharp enough to see cultural differences between the peoples. Sure generalizations don't apply to everything but when you are talking about a large group of people, there are definite trends or patterns you can see.

It's you who is assuming that the whole world and a culture operates a certain way because of passing observations of a significant minority. You are 34 you say, haven't been back in 5 years. That'd make you 29 when you left, you dated one girl for 4 years, now that leaves you at 25....I don't know why you call it a Japanese household either, that's in the third person. Now you are also married and also didn't live there fully, as a matter of fact by your own wording it was probably sporadic esp since you say you grew up in NYC. I'd say that give you about 2-3 years of single dating....hardly enough to know any 'cultures' women and those would be all in a young demographic..

Instead of simply saying I didn't mean all....yet you will push for that.

Maybe my info isn't up to date but from my past experience, that is how I would classify the women. And if you don't believe me about the looks of Japanese women, walk around in Tokyo for a day then walk around Seoul. There is a noticeable quality difference. Even the OP has stated that. Not saying that there aren't any pretty Japanese girls. From my observations, its more like 5%. I think even my 3 sisters would agree to that

You discussion of korean women also is failing to recognize that they are very frequently very made up and most have plastic surgery...it's extremely cheap there, cheap enough that even American's fly there for procedures. I am refering to a natural beauty and that is easily seen comparing two without surgery....however, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder....it's akin to saying all rap music or rock music or classical is terrible...having your sisters agree is simply showing your own experience, again it's all part of the same piece and hardly a new sampling.

Fact is also (and I don't understand this), people try to make claims that because they lived somewhere they are experts....please, most americans and europeans can hardly explain half the stuff they live around....yet with american types from Japan or China, Phillipines, Korea, etc because they spent an on and off again 10 year there, they should be writing for National Geographic.

You have pulled this thing in so many side issues. Fact is you may think Korean women are more beautiful and less submissive but someone else feels the opposite....you can keep going with it and you will have an equal number on both sides.

It's one thing to state an opinion, but don't try to state it's a fact.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

have you aquainted with Fook Mi and Fook Yu?

 

[aircooled]

I will paypal you 20 US dollars to surprise me Just send me something cool that is only available in japan

 

[Doggiedog]

Alkemyst, did you read any of my threads?

I always say according to my experience or from my observations. These are facts to me because I've seen them and lived them.

And you are the one that keeps assuming these things. You are generalizing by saying Koreans are all plasticked up. Now aren't you being a hypocrite? I was in Korea 10 years ago before all this stuff was going on so from my experience there, I can still tell you they look pretty good. My wife has never had plastic surgery. None of the Korean girls in my HS had plastic surgery at the time (don't know about now) and there were many pretty ones. I went to Japanese school and there weren't too many pretty girls there. I taught in 4 Japanese JHSs and from my estimate the pretty girl ratio was like 5%. Granted this was before school girls started going crazy over there and making themselve look like anime characters with their bright orange hair.

As for you, since when does marrying a Japanese woman make you the expert? What is your background? I've given you mine. Put up or shut up. :roll:

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: MAME

Originally posted by: Passions
less building, more girls.

trust me dude, most of the girls here are NOT picture worthy

True dat.

Being of Japanese descent I can attest to it. Korean and Shanghaiese girls are MUCH hotter.

<==Married Korean girl

Korean girls tend to be good wives. I have a Chinese friend who married a Korean girl too. She's a yr older than he. His mother initially objected to this due to communication difficulty. But later she loved her because she is just so nice.

EHHHHHHHHH...what??? Korean girls as good wives...?? BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. I would think Japanese girls are good wives because they are submissive.

Japanese girls submissive? You obviously don't know about Japanese girls these days. That was true like 20 years ago. Welcome to the millenium.

 

[MAME]

:shocked:
40 posts from when I went to bed until now

anyway, I took 120 pics yesterday in only 2 hours so I will upload and post some more if anyone wants me to

Also, I'm going back to Akihabara via the Ginza subway line. I would like to know where to shop for good deals as I was DEFINATELY not in the right spot last time I went. I will msg Ookii Neko for this as well

 

[OokiiNeko]

IMHO,
ON AVERAGE;
Korean women prettier standing still, but Japanese women seem to walk and move in a most feminine and sexy manner.

*Waiting on link to these plushie things.
Good timing MAME.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
It's you who is assuming that the whole world and a culture operates a certain way because of passing observations of a significant minority. You are 34 you say, haven't been back in 5 years. That'd make you 29 when you left, you dated one girl for 4 years, now that leaves you at 25....I don't know why you call it a Japanese household either, that's in the third person. Now you are also married and also didn't live there fully, as a matter of fact by your own wording it was probably sporadic esp since you say you grew up in NYC. I'd say that give you about 2-3 years of single dating....hardly enough to know any 'cultures' women and those would be all in a young demographic..

You discussion of korean women also is failing to recognize that they are very frequently very made up and most have plastic surgery

Funny how you claim Doggiedog to be assuming too much while you do the same.:roll:

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko
IMHO,
ON AVERAGE;
Korean women prettier standing still, but Japanese women seem to walk and move in a most feminine and sexy manner.

*Waiting on link to these plushie things.
Good timing MAME.

speak of the devil! check your pm

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: aircooled
I will paypal you 20 US dollars to surprise me Just send me something cool that is only available in japan

I'll look around today. I haven't seen much cool stuff though to be honest. I'm here another 2 weeks, so I should be able to find something

 

[OokiiNeko]

Really rushed directions sent.

*And I am not the devil!

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: OokiiNeko
Really rushed directions sent.

*And I am not the devil!

OniNeko!