Hezbollah will target Israeli water in the event of war

[EagleKeeper]

Now Common Courtesy comes back with, "The Palestinians have had multiple chances to lift themselves up by their bootstraps. Yet they have chosen not to - instead play the victim card. Now they have come to believe such."

What pray tell have those opportunities been Common Courtesy?????????????????????

When in fact there have been basically none. Please don't try to run out Arifat's refusal to surrender the right to return, because that one will not fly.

What did they do for themselves from '48 until '67. Nothing - yet the Arabs were in control of all this Palestinian land.

After '67; they still had chances until they let the PLO expand into a proper terrorist organization.

they had the same chances that Israel did from the get go - they just blew it by choosing the wrong side and then continuing to want to take over Israel instead of building a state on what the UN allocated for them.

 

[Lemon law]

Now Common Courtesy tries to resort to revisionist history by saying, "What did they do for themselves from '48 until '67. Nothing - yet the Arabs were in control of all this Palestinian land."

You totally Flunk history yet again CC, first Israel made the Palestinians as scapegoats for Arab perfidy, as they stole all the Palestinian lands in the former British mandate, and as exiled and forced out Palestinians, they fled to Gaza and the West Bank. Then Israel bagged control but not ownership of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, making the Palestinian problem now 100% Israeli.

Sadly the truth is and remains, the Palestinian people were always powerless, they were not the aggressor, yet they pay all of the price for the sins of Arabs and Israelis.

Like Diogenes searching for an honest man, we can search forever and still fail to justify the Palestinian screwing.

 

[Noobtastic]

You totally Flunk history yet again CC, first Israel made the Palestinians as scapegoats for Arab perfidy, as they stole all the Palestinian lands in the former British mandate, and as exiled and forced out Palestinians, they fled to Gaza and the West Bank.

You are the one promoting revisionist history. The Arabs fled in a war they started. The Arabs invaded Israel in 1948, not the other way around.

No land was "stolen" similar to how American settlers robbed the natives, british settlers in australia genocided the aborginales, or the muslim conquerers wiping out hindu, christian, and jewish communities between the 7th-15th century.

Then Israel bagged control but not ownership of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, making the Palestinian problem now 100% Israeli.

Let's repeat: The Arabs fled in a war they started. Get it? The "Palestinian problem" was created by the Arabs, and continued by the Arabs. Israel had no authority or control of the WB and Gaza until 1967. It was never Israel's problem and Israel had no influence over the PLO or Arab regimes and their own foreign policy.

Like most Chomsky trolls you place ZERO blame on the Arab aggressors, even though they picked a fight (and lost), and instead place all the blame on Israel because it is guilty of original sin.

Naturally, of course - you don't apply the same moral standard to the Arab's, who wiped out and expelled 99.9% of their own Jewish population.

In fact, there were more Jewish refugees in 1948 than Arab. But they were absorbed by Israel, while the Palestinians were kept displaced as confirmed by UNRWA director Ralph Galloway:

The Arab states do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront to the United Nations and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders don’t give a damn whether the refugees live or die.

The Arab states were very explicit that their war against Israel had zero to do with "Palestine" and everything to do with fighting Zionism and denying Jewish rights.

The Pallies have been given more than enough land to create their welfare state which could be made available to the so-called "refugees" - the problem is Palestinians continue to live in camps (mostly controlled by Arab entities and benefactors) to keep them disposed so the aid and world sympathy never stops.

No free-thinking person believed a 24th Arab state was a solution to this conflict in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

Only recently have revisionist history gone back 6 decades, erasing the terror and belligerence generated by the Arabs and portraying the arab world as victim to Israel's existence - a colonialist import imposed on the innocent, peace-loving Arabs.

good luck defeating this post with facts.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Now Common Courtesy tries to resort to revisionist history by saying, "What did they do for themselves from '48 until '67. Nothing - yet the Arabs were in control of all this Palestinian land."

You totally Flunk history yet again CC, first Israel made the Palestinians as scapegoats for Arab perfidy, as they stole all the Palestinian lands in the former British mandate, and as exiled and forced out Palestinians, they fled to Gaza and the West Bank. Then Israel bagged control but not ownership of the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, making the Palestinian problem now 100% Israeli.

Sadly the truth is and remains, the Palestinian people were always powerless, they were not the aggressor, yet they pay all of the price for the sins of Arabs and Israelis.

Like Diogenes searching for an honest man, we can search forever and still fail to justify the Palestinian screwing.

1) The Arabs were expected by the UN to administer the area of Palestine that was not assigned to the Jews as Israel.

2) Come '48; The Arabs ATTACKED Israel with the assistance of some Palestinians. NOTE: Israel did not attack the Arabs.

2a) Had the Arabs & Palestinians not ATTACKED Israel; there would be no issue of the right of return.

3) Who controlled the West Bank/Gaza from '48 until '67. Hint: Not Israel. The Palestinians and the Arabs.

4) What did the Palestinians and the Arabs do to promote a Palestinian/Arab state. Hint: Nothing.

So you want to blame Israel for the Palestinians plight - yet ignoring that they brought such upon themselves witht eh assistance of the ARab brethen.

After '67; Israel had control of gaza and the West Bank. In that time frame, the actual lifestyles of the Palestinians in those areas improved over what they were under the Arab control.

Yet only at that point did the PLO start there terrorism campaign. And only then did the Palestinians start to want their own country. They had 20 years to do so and did nothing.

Then when they want a country - they also start to follow up on what the Arab nations failed at - attacking Israel.

They learned well from the Arab failures - attack and when they are responded to; run for cover pleading that they wil no longer misbehave.
Beruit, Gaza, Southern Lebanon, etc. Arafat learned well and passed those lessons onward.

And you want to claim that it is Israel's fault that the Palestinians have no chance. They have never shown that they deserve multiple chances to have a country that wants to live with it's neighbors.

Fatah under Arafat did not want a country of IsSrael. Hamas and Hezbollah want to destroy Israel. ISrael is being very lienent; much more than the Palestinians are to the Jews and the Arabs ahve been to the Paestinians

Egypt does not want them as neightbors. Jordan kicked them out; they have destroyed Lebanon. Syria is the only place that they have not harmed.

 

[SandEagle]

IHV, you're full of shit. No one wants war, but war is inevitable. Everyone knows that Israel is in need of water bad and it wants the Litani River, and is desperate for this particular water source since it is only a few miles from it's border. Their last attempt to take it in 2006 failed miserably.

For those that don't know about the Litani River and it's importance in the Middle East, Bing it and educate yourself.

 

[Noobtastic]

IHV, you're full of shit. No one wants war, but war is inevitable. Everyone knows that Israel is in need of water bad and it wants the Litani River, and is desperate for this particular water source since it is only a few miles from it's border. Their last attempt to take it in 2006 failed miserably.

For those that don't know about the Litani River and it's importance in the Middle East, Bing it and educate yourself.

very intellectual. the middle east is in a huge drought and israel is posting massive water deficits for 2010/2011 in spite of the groundbreaking desalination technology that dominates their water industry.

you think israel has territorial ambitions? that it will attack lebanon over the litani river? LOL.

israel didn't pip any water from litani from what i understand. lebanon/jordan/israel have gone to war against each other over water:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_over_Water

the hasbani and wazzani rivers are shared by both lebanon and israel.

if hezbollah starts another around with israel, it wouldn't bother me if israel makes claims to the litani river.

victors have a legal right to redraw their borders according to their security needs. europe did it in post-WWII, israel should do it if the arabs keep fuckin around.