hey with all this DDR and Rambus, are macs still "Technicly" faster then PC's?

[chiwawa626]

hey with all this DDR and Rambus, are macs still "Technicly" faster then PC's?

 

[office boy]

Really, were they ever?

 

[toph99]

on a clock-for-clock basis, i'm not sure. i know the G4 kicks all kinds of as$ in RC5, but the fastest they come is 500mhz...

 

[chuckieland]

PC 32bit already the same or faster then 64bit mac
compare 1.1ghz Althon and 0.5ghz(haha) Mac.
when althon move to 64bit, that distance will blow wide open
mac user not mean for flame war
but i can't resist it.
die mac die
lol hehehehehahahahaha

 

[The Sauce]

Still? still?!? They are still slower, if that's what you mean. They still have crappy software and hardware support. And they are still overpriced with proprietary everything.

 

[Modus]

No industry standard benchmark has ever shown Mac systems to be faster (technically or practically) than equivalently priced PC's. Even Photoshop, where the Mac does well, suffers from the fact that most of its common operations are essentially instantaneous on modern machines, and even then, a $2000 PC still beats a $2000 Mac in Photoshop (not to mention utterly destroying it everywhere else AND having ten times better software support AND providing access to modern hardware as soon as it comes out AND allowing one to build a customized machine from scratch AND allowing for competing companies but more or less cooperative standards that encourage innvoation AND. . . uh, yeah, that's all).

Modus

 

[rahvin]

On a clock for clock basis (500mhz PowerPC's (with Altivec) are rarely compared to 500mhz PIII's) but in theory it should be quite a bit more efficient. The problem is that motorolla can't keep up on the mhz game so you can't buy 1ghz PowerPC's. In a properly configured Mac system with OSX should clean the clock of a Wintel machine of the same mhz, playing field gets leveled if you use FreeBSD on the Intel proc though. Just speculation on my part, like I said you rarely see the two compared.

 

[chuckieland]

This is stupid comment,
comparing top end G4 Mac technique year 2000 to P3 500mhz which is top end pocessor for PC about say two years ago.
gee, and you think G4 is more efficient. how efficient is G3 back then???
you know the F-22 is way better then the F-4phantom too
what a guy

 

[XeonTux]

You cannot compare Macs to Intel machines Mhz to Mhz. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Just like you can't compare a Sun UltraSPARC-III CPU to a Pentium III Mhz to Mhz. I would bet my money on that Sun over the fastest PIII.

With BSD-based OSX, I think Apple has a good thing going and I wish them luck. I wouldn't even mind owning a G4. If someone were to give me one, that is.

Personally, I'm gonna stick with Intel for now.

 

[borealiss]

like a lot of people have said already, you can't compare the two. cpu optimization makes all the difference in the world. take tom's flaskmpeg comparison with the p4 and the rehashed flaskmpeg made for the p4. big difference. for software that's built for a mac straight up, it'll probably run faster. for software that's built for a pc straight up, it'll probably run faster. but for availability of software and for running a whole bunch of software at fast speeds, pc is the only way to fly. if ms could fix that 2 gig file barrier for avi files, pc's would be even better.

 

[DaLeroy]

A 500MHz MAC is 'supposed' to run more efficient than a 500MHZ Pentium III, but a P3 costs WAY less than a 500MHZ Mac, so the choice isn't very difficult!!! Plus, way more suppport in 'normal' PC side of things, such as software, hardware etc

Leroy

 

[XeonTux]

Plus Apple has this bad habit with dumbing things down to the point of being non usable. Even worse than Microsoft.

 

[Cknyc]

did you guys forgot about the one button mouse?

 

[Leo V]

In all fairness, there was a time when Macs were faster. But that was many years ago, back when Macs used 100% SCSI and PC's didn't even have sound. Boy, have some tables turned... had the G4 processor been used intelligently (you can still run Linux PPC on it), it could smoke the PC, especially in laptop apps--this chip runs very cool. But the PC keeps moving forward.

Sadly, there are still many professionals (artists, musicians) using Macs. Why? Because that's what they used 10 years ago. The sad part is software with crappy PC support in favor of Apple, for purely "user legacy" reasons. I wanted to gouge my eyes out after seeing Apple's interview with Trent Reznor...those blasphemers got Reznor's endorsement :disgust:

 

[XeonTux]

Sorry Apple, I can't see how a one button mouse makes things easier. My scroll mouse in X Windows makes things EASIER. One click cut and paste between apps, scrolling windows, and I can't imagine not being able to get that right click menu in most apps. How can you do all that with one button?

 

[chuckieland]

take mac long enough to realize that you need more then one bottom on the mouse lol
I think for standard, every mouse should have at least two bottom and a scoller, god i love scoller.

 

[Modus]

LeoV,

<<Sadly, there are still many professionals (artists, musicians) using Macs. Why? Because that's what they used 10 years ago. The sad part is software with crappy PC support in favor of Apple, for purely &quot;user legacy&quot; reasons.>>

So true.

Modus

 

[Sunner]

chuckieland, there are no Mac's out there with 64 bit CPU's.

The G3 as well as the G4 are 32 bit.

The G3 is, if I dont remember incorrectly, derived partly from the IBM POWER3 which is 64 bit, but the G3 is not.

 

[PliotronX]

<< Apple's interview with Trent Reznor... >>



Oh Jesus, no! Say it ain't so! :disgust:

 

[Bartman]

I work for a company that does graphics/video/film/ect. We used to be 100% mac. Slowly but surly there all going away as the mac users look across the desk and see there buddy using an ibm that's MUCH faster. Watch someone use photoshop with a duel 766 and a G4 500, the mac get's SMOKED! You can forget about doing graphics rendering and 3d animation on a mac, there just to slow. We have a quad Xeon and some duel rigs for that.

Just last week the old DIE HARD mac IT guy turned over his mac and asked me for an ibm.

But Mac still has it's place in our company. The prez still loves them. We got a new G4 cube. It sits on the conferance table and does power point slideshows.... we got a cube because it looks cool. LOL!!!!

Bartman