I was in both Portland and Eugene yesterday, left the 7yr old of at Grandmas in Eugene then myself, the wife and my stepson headed up to the Roseland theater in Portland for a Rammstine concert. Interesting show, I think I was the oldest one in the place, one other old grey beard biker, interesting crowd, stoned kids, Goth, drunks, a lot of kids that weren't drunk, stoned or normal ??? Rammstines pyrotechnics were every bit as good as I expected. Looking at the Roseland all I could see was a fire trap, I was amazed when they hauled out the flame thrower and were shooting 10 -12' flames across the stage.