Originally posted by: chazmotaz
Originally posted by: Red
Yes I believe in God. I can't/won't allow myself to think about waking up every morning and experiencing all of the wonderful things in this world and blame it on a scientific reaction of amino acids in a perfect environment. Also, when I try to think of the Big Bang Theory, if it is true, why did it happen? I must think that some being started all of this, and he is still around. And yes, I also believe Jesus was the Son of God.
Yes indeed, a very common argument to be seen in religious debates! Also a very hard one to counter, due to the inevitable "but where did
that come from", well, i will try and put the counterment in the best way i can conjure with my limited rescources (and my laziness to go get them)
See my friend, before we tackle your argument we must build up to the point. Let us compose our minds in this respect: how big is the universe?
Well, the theory of the universe is simply a theory, we must understand that there are no boundries in space, lest we forget that space is, well, space. Infinite is the extent at wich "nothing" exists. We then can concieve the prospect of Matter being the main composition of "the universe".
Now, i believe in the Big Bang theory, to a degree. With my mind enstated upon the prospect of space being space, it is of possibility of there having been multiple "cosmic eggs".
But where did all the matter in "The cosmic egg" come from? Well, i can simply say one word to this prospect, Recycling.
One of the most respected theories of the big bang is that after a certain amount of time, matter is drawn back into a cosmic egg, and then collapsed back into the origins of the big bang.
I feel that matter drifts out forever, until it composes another small cosmic egg, thus would ehnance my theory of multiple, Big Bangs.
Now, we can wonder how matter was brought into space, but again, let us define space, nothing, outside our atmosphere, in space, is space, nothing else. Matter must have collected over rifts of time. See, the theory of relativity states that objects large enough simply move time and space themselves, thus we can conclude that time exists outside of the earth and matter, we can conviece the principle that even an object of nothingness holds it's own properties of Time.
This might be hard to concive within the minds eye, but if the theory is anywhere near correct, than we can establish the basic elements of time and space apply to pure nothing ness. Given that time is in fact real, and given that it exists in pure nothingness, it is possible that it could be "rifted". This is conclusive in tests performed by high-speed jets outside our atmosphere, upon completon, it has been determend that time can technically "rift", meaning, change itself, such was evident in the 5 atomic clocks on board concurring the exact same time, 1/1000 (at least) different from earth, considering they technically were not out of the atmosphere, that is quite extrordinary.
Anyway, in these time rips, or rifts, we see that a new sort of molecule may have been introduced, matter. Now, wether or not matter was created in large lumps or small lumps, we can concur that if something happens once, it can happen again. And considering the infiniite reaches of space, matter has all the time it needs to form many many different combinations until it achives something like our solar system, and earth.