hey, sup locutus, so 2002 (as perscribed by the bbs I'm trying to contact, need's some openness.... only prob, is I'm not sure how to access the control panel for our winproxy at work, that's one thing my boss, has kept hidden from me... so I'll have to see if i can get winproxy to work around... can you suggest a good telnet program?? that has built in ripterm???