Hey guys.. how true is this?

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tec699

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Huh.. Sorry bro but I don't spend enough time on the forums to know every frekin repost. And I'm not trolling.

I'm just asking a question and if you can't answer it for me then plese don't respond.

Ok then.. Is that site to be trusted? I know they love to bash Republicans as it's one sided, but the draft dodging by the Republicans and the meetings between Saddam and Rumesfeld are on the site. So is it true?
 
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well the links seem a bit outrageous, but their content is true

among other things, rumsfeld and saddam were lovey-dovey buds!

they were all in bed with each other

which is why this invasion is so bitter: that funny crossed line of love/hate

saddam thinks right now: geez george, as you throw those cruise missles at me, don't you remember our good fun times? =/ and donny (rumsfeld), how bout that time we shared happy meals together? doesn't any of our beautiful past mean a thing to you anymore? why can't we get back to the good ol'days when you used to feed me chemicals

*sigh*

;-P


 
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that content is true, tec

that rumsfeld/hussein love-in was from the mid/late-80s when we supplied iraq those chemical weapons for him against Iran

it's true stuff
 
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Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: tec699
Huh.. Sorry bro but I don't spend enough time on the forums to know every frekin repost. And I'm not trolling.

I'm just asking a question and if you can't answer it for me then plese don't respond.

Ok then.. Is that site to be trusted? I know they love to bash Republicans as it's one sided, but the draft dodging by the Republicans and the meetings between Saddam and Rumesfeld are on the site. So is it true?
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Don't know anything about the sites, but I understand that those claims are true. I recently saw a video clip from the Rumsfeld/Saddam meeting in a documentary special on Hussein, his rise to power, and our past interactions with Iraq.
 
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In the future we will find Bill Clinton and Jiang Zemin on a site exactly like that.

And the reason I called it a troll post is because the Rumsfield - Saddam photos have been out there forever months before we actually went to war

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" << that used to be one of Internationnal policies and is how/why we also trained Osama. Osama was trained by the US to fight the Soviet Union/Communism

Saddam was given assistance to fight the Communists and Iran
 
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wow, Osama was birthed by the US too? i didn't know that.

Wow. I'm in shock and need time to digest that one. I had no idea of that.

Wow. The true Reagan/Bush legacy: birthing murderers. Sad.

The chickens have come home to roost. So that's what's going on.

George W. Bush is nothing more than a common Janitor.

How funny, if it wasn't causing so much sadness in reality.
 
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If we would have lost the Cold War then tell me if you think the world would have better place with the Soviet Union as the Only SuperPower
 
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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
wow, Osama was birthed by the US too? i didn't know that.

Wow. I'm in shock and need time to digest that one. I had no idea of that.

Wow. The true Reagan/Bush legacy: birthing murderers. Sad.

The chickens have come home to roost. So that's what's going on.

George W. Bush is nothing more than a common Janitor.

How funny, if it wasn't causing so much sadness in reality.
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LOL............
 
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Looks quite a bit biased to me.... However, Bush was missing from service during that time. If he was dogging the war, I dont give a crap. Look at how many other people did it.
 
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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
wow, Osama was birthed by the US too? i didn't know that.

Wow. I'm in shock and need time to digest that one. I had no idea of that.

Wow. The true Reagan/Bush legacy: birthing murderers. Sad.

The chickens have come home to roost. So that's what's going on.

George W. Bush is nothing more than a common Janitor.

How funny, if it wasn't causing so much sadness in reality.
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This is the American Political System.. the sh!t rises to the top -- just like it did with Democratic Presidencies.

 
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Originally posted by: Tabb
Looks quite a bit biased to me.... However, Bush was missing from service during that time. If he was dogging the war, I dont give a crap. Look at how many other people did it.
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and look at how many of those attainted to be our beloved "commander in-chief"

*HUMPH*

others don't matter because they aren't/haven't been our chief
 
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Well, let me see, didn't Clinton win the Bronze Star for valor in Vietnam?
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Yeah, here it is. Clinton's record in Vietnam........link
 
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that first link is pretty riduculous

you could probably come with just as long a list for republicans who served and democrats that dodged...

but it doesn't matter
 
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Originally posted by: phillyTIM
that content is true, tec

that rumsfeld/hussein love-in was from the mid/late-80s when we supplied iraq those chemical weapons for him against Iran

it's true stuff
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Detail exactly what "chemical weapons" the US supplied Iraq.

 
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Originally posted by: dahunan
In the future we will find Bill Clinton and Jiang Zemin on a site exactly like that.

And the reason I called it a troll post is because the Rumsfield - Saddam photos have been out there forever months before we actually went to war

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" << that used to be one of Internationnal policies and is how/why we also trained Osama. Osama was trained by the US to fight the Soviet Union/Communism

Saddam was given assistance to fight the Communists and Iran
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You are incorrect. Osama was never trained by the US. The US gave money to the Pakistani ISI, who trained and funded Afghani resistance groups of their choosing. Osama didn't get much, because he was independently wealthy and did not need US funding. He really didn't do much fighting, mainly just funded and organized resistance groups. To claim the US created Osama, as many like to do to somehow blame the US for 9/11(which is retarded, you don't blame Harvard because on of their graduates uses his education to become a really good serial killer), is a bit silly, because he would've become what he became regardless of whether or not the US helped him out a little bit. The you've also got that whole thing about hindsight being 20/20 and us having no way of knowing what the aftermath of helping the Afghanis fight off the Soviets would be.

Was the US wrong to help the Afghanis? Of course not. There is no possible way we could've seen the eventual outcome of those events.

Saddam wasn't given much help against Iran, and was mainly given it because it looked like Iran was going to kick his ass, and we didn't want any one power dominating the Middle East. It wasn't really a communist threat thing, since the Iranians weren't communists, though we were pissed as hell at them for that whole embassy thing. At the time, Iraq was a secular, fairly rational(or at least predictable) regime in a region of uncertain theocratic pyschopaths, having them go under wouldn't have been much good for anyone.
 
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dont be naive the USA provided Iraq with Nerve agents Anthrax and mustard gas...

Also the CIA did train bin laden and his troops. they especially provided them with russian arms.
 
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Originally posted by: zer0burn
dont be naive the USA provided Iraq with Nerve agents Anthrax and mustard gas...

Also the CIA did train bin laden and his troops. they especially provided them with russian arms.
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You have been either fooled by biased media or brainwashed.

Yes, the US supplied Iraq facilites with anthrax cultures. The US did not supply Iraq with chemical weapons.

If you want to find the main supplier of Iraq's weapons then for chemical look at Germany. For conventional weapons look at the USSR.
 
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Originally posted by: zer0burn
dont be naive the USA provided Iraq with Nerve agents Anthrax and mustard gas...

Also the CIA did train bin laden and his troops. they especially provided them with russian arms.
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The hell? Where exactly was the CIA getting Russian military equipment from? You don't even make sense. Russia was giving the US military equipment to use against themselves? The CIA had little to no direct involvement in Afghanistan. What involvement there was not with Bin Laden, but other warlords, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar(sp), who is currently causing trouble for us in Afghanistan, was the leader of what was probably the most heavily supported resistance group.
 
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