Hey FDA... stop messing with my beer!

[Londo_Jowo]

Funny how those who support this regulation oppose Texas making abortion clinics adhere to regulations that all ambulatory outpatient facilities in the state must meet.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally Posted by Genx87
Same standard as others for what? Has feeding the spent grain to livestock been a detriment?

yep

grain will make a mess of the digestive systems of a cow

they are supposed to eat grass with the amount of grains that usually come with those

Isnt it the farmers job to regulate what his cows eat? the FDA regulation is not about banning grain fed to cattle.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Is this moar gooder?? Senstationalism.

Sorry, English isn't my 1st language. But, hey, if thats all some of you have,.. then, so be it.

:biggrin:

I also have this, your posts not funny or ironic.

 

[norseamd]

Isnt it the farmers job to regulate what his cows eat?

sure

but also that goes into the food supply when consumers have no idea about anything being in there

we can make sure that all sources pass the same standards

 

[Newell Steamer]

I also have this, your posts not funny or ironic.

I guess these forums don't have an ignore feature?

 

[norseamd]

too much grain in the diet causes bacterial problems that goes out with shit and that ends up in nearby crop fields and thsoe have been responsable for salmonella outbreaks

 

[SlickSnake]

They need to be more worried about expiration dates clearly marked on beers. Some beers have it, or a brewed on date at least, other beers have secret plant and date coding that you have to call up the brewer to even decipher it. I have bought local brewery beer, imports, and popular brand beer that was clearly outdated and undrinkable way too many times.

 

[TonyG]

If this was a real concern, wouldn't the USDA have already regulated it? In fact, is the FDA stepping into USDA's territory with this?

 

[shira]

I think the better question is why would you want to drink beer that wasn't fit to be fed to your dog?^_^

And I think an even better question is: How would the general public know if meat was raised, or pet food was produced, using spent grains unless there were either a consistent standard across all meat/pet food producers OR a requirement for meat/pet food producers to provide disclosure on labels as to whether (in effect) the product was produced using spent grains?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

This topic was about beer and the FDA. YOU brought in gays and women. I didn't say there are too many gay threads. I said there were gay threads. What you did is present a false dichotomy and rather amusingly. You ask "what do you have against women and gays". Well my women in my life would tell you nothing, and neither would the gay people I know. Now I'll ask you, why you disrespect them so much you need to drag their real concerns into a thread about beer and associated regulations? Did I drag them into this? Did I drag those abused by the police in here too? No, of the two of us you are the only one who did. Don't play the innocent troll.

He talked about gays and women as they relate to conservatives and their views of small government (aka no big government... except where we want it). You then went off the deep end about some metadiscussion on threads regarding him bringing it up.

 

[shira]

I don't know if there's a problem with spent grains in the food supply, and I await data indicating whether or not this is a valid source of concern for public (and pet) health.

But I have a more general question: Are the same people who oppose this type of government regulation on the grounds that it first needs to be demonstrated that a sufficiently-significant problem exists before government regulation is warranted also the same people who advocate voter-ID laws as a "solution" for voter ID fraud, absent evidence that voter-ID fraud is a significant problem?

 

[piasabird]

Maybe they should go inspect some dog food.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'm perfectly fine with proper authority being properly applied. I do have real problems when it is otherwise.

As far as "certain topics"- I see the police abuse threads. For you information I was severely beaten when a young teen in Philadelphia by police. Mistaken identity, and when my father said he wanted to complain he was told he certainly could, but I might be charged with resisting arrest. Nothing happened. So yes I am aware of abuses, more than many. In spite of that there's not much that anyone I can say. I tend to avoid them as a rule.

Now there are certain things I am interested in. One is government regulations concerning things involving the FDA because I have a professional interest. Another is beer. Put them together in a title and I click on it. Then I see a post about gays and women. Well why not Putin? Subsidence in CA and earthquake zoning? Why not? Because people cant use them as emotional battering rams, tools to get in a dig. All in or all out? Utter nonsense. I mean seriously, do you really mean authority must not be questioned? If you didn't you certainly came off that way. If your intent is to get in an irrelevant dig that's fine. If you are complaining that there are those who insist it's either/or, then again fine. Don't presume however that people who look at something say WTF are anti this or that. You can't make those generalities, or if you insist, then as I say there are vaccine posts galore.

very well said!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Uhm,... I don't see anyone questioning authority on these forums.

It's purely bashing. And, any comment with a "?" at the end, are pure mockery (bashing as well).

Some of you guys have a hate-on for authority, unless it has INC., LLP or some other corporate tail to it's name.

And in regards to assumptions,.. just look at the replies in cop bashing threads; most are sweeping comments about how all cops are bad. So, again, maybe you should direct the reservations on making broad strokes towards someone else.

keep digging the hole.....deeper and deeper....

 

[JEDIYoda]

Are you illiterate or just stupid?

How can Newell Steamer be both illiterate and just stupid? He is a troll first and everything else comes second!!