Hey everyone, meet Joanna

IeraseU

Senior member
Aug 25, 2004
778
0
71
Had a shoot with her this morning. A very nice girl and very experienced model also. I got along with her beautifully. Here is a sample from the shoot:



Sample
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,804
46
91
Originally posted by: IeraseU
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: 40Hands
Haha...yeah oookkkk...

:confused:

I'm confused on this one also. Maybe he doesn't find her attractive? Different strokes I guess.

i don't find her very attractive myself. i don't care for the face. I don't know if its the face she is making or if her face naturally looks like that.

yeah, different strokes, but he could have given a reason or have been a bit nicer about it.
 

IeraseU

Senior member
Aug 25, 2004
778
0
71
You know what, people always look better in person. No matter how hot a girl looks in a photo she may send me, when I actually meet her she always looks better. There is just something about a person that a picture can't quite capture.
 

40Hands

Diamond Member
Jun 29, 2004
5,042
0
71
My comment had nothing to do with her attractiveness. Am I the only one who thinks the photo looks photoshopped?

Should have made my first comment more clear although I did think it was a joke. I guess it could just be the way it was processed or the lighting...
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
29,767
33
81
Lighting is off dude...sorry to say.

PM VirtualMike or check out his recent foggy beach series. In that case, the ambient light was far worse than yours but yet he still managed to make her radiate!

 

gsellis

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 2003
6,061
0
0
Originally posted by: 40Hands
My comment had nothing to do with her attractiveness. Am I the only one who thinks the photo looks photoshopped?

Should have made my first comment more clear although I did think it was a joke. I guess it could just be the way it was processed or the lighting...

I started to post the same this morning.

Ieraseu, do you want constructive critism or did you really mean to post that here?

Your lighting is bad and makes it looked 'shopped'. You need a couple panels to use the light. Maybe a gold reflector on your right and a sunfilter fill on your left?
 

IeraseU

Senior member
Aug 25, 2004
778
0
71
Thanks for the critique everyone. I think I got 1 or 2 that I can use for my portfolio from the session and I'm happy with that. Having said that I already called her up and said "Let's do it again, we can do better!", and she agreed. There is always room to improve.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
25,375
142
116
She's cute. That sample pic needs fill-flash badly.
 

Deadtrees

Platinum Member
Dec 31, 2002
2,351
0
0
Originally posted by: IeraseU
You know what, people always look better in person. No matter how hot a girl looks in a photo she may send me, when I actually meet her she always looks better. There is just something about a person that a picture can't quite capture.

That just means you failed.
It's even worse if you truly believe that'll always be the case when it comes to photography. Don't limit yourself and photography.
 

Kelvrick

Lifer
Feb 14, 2001
18,422
5
81
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Originally posted by: IeraseU
You know what, people always look better in person. No matter how hot a girl looks in a photo she may send me, when I actually meet her she always looks better. There is just something about a person that a picture can't quite capture.

That just means you failed.
It's even worse if you truly believe that'll always be the case when it comes to photography. Don't limit yourself and photography.

Tis true. A lot of times you look at a photo taken when you were present and it just blows you away that you didn't see such beauty in person.
 

virtuamike

Diamond Member
Oct 13, 2000
7,845
13
81
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Lighting is off dude...sorry to say.

PM VirtualMike or check out his recent foggy beach series. In that case, the ambient light was far worse than yours but yet he still managed to make her radiate!


That foggy beach was plenty of light. I've worked in far worse.

Just some streetlights (f/1.4 1/30 ISO1600)

I forgot who said it or how it exactly goes, but -
There's no such thing as bad light, just poor usage.

Looking at the shot, it's a sunny day with a smiling girl in a bikini. Having her in the shade and lighting flatly doesn't fit with that. Instead of treating shadows as something to avoid, use them (having that palm tree shadow streak across her body would've been awesome). Learn to see what's going on with the light and match up your lighting to it. Your ambient is coming in strong from the side, but your flash is low and almost lighting upwards. Play with positioning. View light as a tool instead of a problem. And above all, light with a purpose ;)

Some excellent lighting resources -
Light: Science & Magic (Hunter, Biver, Fuqua)
Strobist
 

troytime

Golden Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,996
1
0
Originally posted by: virtuamike
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Lighting is off dude...sorry to say.

PM VirtualMike or check out his recent foggy beach series. In that case, the ambient light was far worse than yours but yet he still managed to make her radiate!


That foggy beach was plenty of light. I've worked in far worse.

Just some streetlights (f/1.4 1/30 ISO1600)

I forgot who said it or how it exactly goes, but -
There's no such thing as bad light, just poor usage.

Looking at the shot, it's a sunny day with a smiling girl in a bikini. Having her in the shade and lighting flatly doesn't fit with that. Instead of treating shadows as something to avoid, use them (having that palm tree shadow streak across her body would've been awesome). Learn to see what's going on with the light and match up your lighting to it. Your ambient is coming in strong from the side, but your flash is low and almost lighting upwards. Play with positioning. View light as a tool instead of a problem. And above all, light with a purpose ;)

Some excellent lighting resources -
Light: Science & Magic (Hunter, Biver, Fuqua)
Strobist

excellent advice that we can all use
thanks!

 

IeraseU

Senior member
Aug 25, 2004
778
0
71
Originally posted by: virtuamike
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Lighting is off dude...sorry to say.

PM VirtualMike or check out his recent foggy beach series. In that case, the ambient light was far worse than yours but yet he still managed to make her radiate!


That foggy beach was plenty of light. I've worked in far worse.

Just some streetlights (f/1.4 1/30 ISO1600)

I forgot who said it or how it exactly goes, but -
There's no such thing as bad light, just poor usage.

Looking at the shot, it's a sunny day with a smiling girl in a bikini. Having her in the shade and lighting flatly doesn't fit with that. Instead of treating shadows as something to avoid, use them (having that palm tree shadow streak across her body would've been awesome). Learn to see what's going on with the light and match up your lighting to it. Your ambient is coming in strong from the side, but your flash is low and almost lighting upwards. Play with positioning. View light as a tool instead of a problem. And above all, light with a purpose ;)

Some excellent lighting resources -
Light: Science & Magic (Hunter, Biver, Fuqua)
Strobist


You're right I should have tried it natural light. The thing was if I put her into the sun I would have had to have her put on her shades to avoid squinting because the sun was coming up in the left portion of that picture and would have bothered her . I really wanted to show her face so I tried it in the shade with flash, and the results are probably not ideal. Anyway, here's another shot from the series....this one was natural light (no flash), but I had her put on her shades to avoid squinting:

Sample 2

Well it's back to the drawing board for me, I think I have 3 shoots next week and I'm trying to land one this Sunday also be cause I loooveee being out there shooting. Thank you again for the critique, it's only been 5wks of shooting models for me but I hope to improve a lot with practice.
 

Deadtrees

Platinum Member
Dec 31, 2002
2,351
0
0
It looks so much better than the last one but it still has some issues.

1. I think it's totally okay for a model to be in the middle of the picture only if it was intensional with thoughtful calulation.
That doesn't seem to be the case here. Just crop it to see if it'll look better having her on the either left or right side of the frame.

2. She's got a hole in her head: the white-hole while her left side of face is chopped off by the shadow. Well, I guess it's not really a total white-hole as the value was 254,255,238.
Anyway, keep it mind that you're using D70s. D70s is quite white-hole friendly and you should always think about that when you're shooting a picture in that kind of light.

3. Shodows on her body just look very awkward.

4. Why did you take that picture at 11:44? That's the worst time to take a picture.

5. She looks like she is in pain.

6. Again, think about composition and lights.