Hey, doc, please wash your hands

moshquerade

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Do you notice if your doc/nurse washes their hands before they examine you? If he/she did not would you speak up and ask him/her to do so?

The dirty truth about docs who don't wash
Patients shouldn't be shy about asking providers to hit the sink, experts say

MSNBC
updated 7:31 a.m. ET, Fri., Jan. 25, 2008

It?s a question no hospital patient should have to ask: ?Hey, doc, did you wash your hands??

But in an era of rising rates of drug-resistant infections and overburdened medical staffs, hygiene experts say the best-protected patients are those willing to take safety into their own hands ? by asking health workers to wash theirs.

Doctors, nurses and other hospital staffer too busy, too distracted ? or, sometimes, too arrogant ? to wash up are the target of a growing movement aimed at cutting rates of hospital-acquired infections that kill nearly 100,000 people in the U.S. each year, according to federal estimates.

?Most patients assume health-care workers clean their hands, and they?d be surprised,? said Dr. John Boyce, director of the Hand Hygiene Resource Center at the Hospital of St. Raphael in New Haven, Conn., and a co-author of hygiene guidelines for the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

At best, hospital staffers wash adequately about half the time, repeated studies show. And some hospitals post hand hygiene rates as low as 20 percent when they start tracking the problem, said Maryanne McGuckin, a former University of Pennsylvania public health researcher who has spent her career trying to boost hand hygiene in hospitals and other health-care settings.

?This isn?t magic. It?s very clear what you need to do,? McGuckin said.

In hundreds of hospitals across the country, patients are being urged to speak up when workers fail to scrub. Posters in patient rooms, tray-top cards, brochures, buttons and direct invitations from staff all deliver the same reminder: ?It?s OK to ask.?

That's exactly what Dalynn Morales did. The 33-year-old cancer patient at Providence St. Vincent Medical Center in Portland, Ore., noticed that a nurse failed to clean her hands before adjusting Morales? antibiotic line.

?I said, ?Could you please wash??? Morales recalled, adding that the nurse quickly complied. ?I?m not sure if she felt insulted or not.?

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22827499
 

blackdogdeek

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my doc washes his hands.

our pediatrician washes his hands.

i would probably not say anything to my doctor but i probably would say something to our pediatrician.
 

jandrews

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I dont know if I would say something to my dr if he didnt. Some doctors are easily offended and the last thing you want is the guy who is responsible for your health care to be all pissed off.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: jandrews
I dont know if I would say something to my dr if he didnt. Some doctors are easily offended and the last thing you want is the guy who is responsible for your health care to be all pissed off.

They should be embarrassed, not offended, if anything.

Everyone should have the guts to call them on it, and I'd bet it would have a ripple effect on health care people making sure they did what they are supposed to.

I never fore go washing my hands before I see a patient.
 

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: jandrews
I dont know if I would say something to my dr if he didnt. Some doctors are easily offended and the last thing you want is the guy who is responsible for your health care to be all pissed off.

They should be embarrassed, not offended, if anything.

Everyone should have the guts to call them on it, and I'd bet it would have a ripple effect on health care people making sure they did what they are supposed to.

I never fore go washing my hands before I see a patient.

You ever see the seinfeld where elaine refused to put on the gown? I aint sayin nothin!
 

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im pretty sure every time ive gone to the doc the first thing he does when he somes in the room is wash his hands
 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: jandrews
I dont know if I would say something to my dr if he didnt. Some doctors are easily offended and the last thing you want is the guy who is responsible for your health care to be all pissed off.

They should be embarrassed, not offended, if anything.

Everyone should have the guts to call them on it, and I'd bet it would have a ripple effect on health care people making sure they did what they are supposed to.

I never fore go washing my hands before I see a patient.

Unfortunately what they "should" do or feel is sometimes not what actually happens.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: jandrews
I dont know if I would say something to my dr if he didnt. Some doctors are easily offended and the last thing you want is the guy who is responsible for your health care to be all pissed off.

If your doctor gets offended when you ask him to do this politely then it's time to find a new doctor. Your doctor of all people should be able to appreciate this request.
 

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I haven't been to the doc in awhile, so I can't say for sure. but my doc usually wears medical gloves, so it might not be such an issue, anyway.
 

kinev

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For those of you who don't know, many hospitals and clinics have the hospital strength hand sanitizer dispensers. Just because you don't see your doctor wash his hands, doesn't mean that they're dirty. It is good to always do it in front of the patient, though.....and if you think nosocomiail infections are from your physician not washing his hands........HA!
 

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washing hands in a good preventive measure. since the jewish religon instructs you to wash your hand before eating, it saved a lot of jews during the middle ages from the black plague.
 

pontifex

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the doctor's office i went to for my surgery had signs up in each examination room that said to ask the doc if he/she washed his/ehr hands.
 

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Watch out for thier neckties...... I work part-time as a paramedic in our local ER, and one of the docs there brought in a copy of a study the AMA did a while back and said the most contaminated part on a doctor is his necktie. Think about it...... It dangles down there on every patient....... Imagine all the crud on it....

 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: cardiac
Watch out for thier neckties...... I work part-time as a paramedic in our local ER, and one of the docs there brought in a copy of a study the AMA did a while back and said the most contaminated part on a doctor is his necktie. Think about it...... It dangles down there on every patient....... Imagine all the crud on it....

they shouldn't even be wearing a necktie. :confused:
 

lokiju

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Originally posted by: altonb1
I haven't been to the doc in awhile, so I can't say for sure. but my doc usually wears medical gloves, so it might not be such an issue, anyway.

Same here.

Wouldn't wearing gloves negate the concern?
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: lokiju
Originally posted by: altonb1
I haven't been to the doc in awhile, so I can't say for sure. but my doc usually wears medical gloves, so it might not be such an issue, anyway.

Same here.

Wouldn't wearing gloves negate the concern?

If you didn't need to use your hands to put on the gloves.

my routine: wash and dry hands thoroughly, and then put on gloves.
 

jandrews

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: jandrews
I dont know if I would say something to my dr if he didnt. Some doctors are easily offended and the last thing you want is the guy who is responsible for your health care to be all pissed off.

If your doctor gets offended when you ask him to do this politely then it's time to find a new doctor. Your doctor of all people should be able to appreciate this request.

this is a common plague of the internet. Trivializing the pain of doing things such as breaking up w/ someone, making big life changes, changing physicians, jobs etc. It is really annoying, he didnt wash his hands, get a new one!
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: jandrews
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: jandrews
I dont know if I would say something to my dr if he didnt. Some doctors are easily offended and the last thing you want is the guy who is responsible for your health care to be all pissed off.

If your doctor gets offended when you ask him to do this politely then it's time to find a new doctor. Your doctor of all people should be able to appreciate this request.

this is a common plague of the internet. Trivializing the pain of doing things such as breaking up w/ someone, making big life changes, changing physicians, jobs etc. It is really annoying, he didnt wash his hands, get a new one!

seriously though.... if he/she doesn't have the common sense and common courtesy to wash his hands it is speaking of his character. it makes you wonder what else he/she does that is jeopardizing your safety.

if my doc got offended, or seemed put out b/c i asked him to wash his hands i'm telling you i would be looking for a new physician.