Here's another sku of $199 HP Windows netbooks

Bateluer

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http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/29/hp-stream-laptops-tablets/

The notebooks, for one, are also sporting 2GB of RAM (with the aforementioned Celeron N2840 CPU), Intel HD Graphics and can last up to 8.5 hours on a charge.

Err, thinking they may want to redesign these a little.

11+and+13-inch+HP+Stream.jpg
 

mistersprinkles

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This is fantastic! FInally some Celeron netbooks. Tired of slow as death Atom netbooks. And $200! Amazing!

This would be the perfect machine for a geriatric person short on cash but eager to stay in contact with family.
 

Bateluer

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This is fantastic! FInally some Celeron netbooks. Tired of slow as death Atom netbooks. And $200! Amazing!

This would be the perfect machine for a geriatric person short on cash but eager to stay in contact with family.

Not sure if there's that much difference between an Atmon N2800 and Celeron 2840. Seem pretty close, on paper.

http://ark.intel.com/products/58917/Intel-Atom-Processor-N2800-1M-Cache-1_86-GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/82103/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2840-1M-Cache-up-to-2_58-GHz
 

Yuriman

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This is fantastic! FInally some Celeron netbooks. Tired of slow as death Atom netbooks. And $200! Amazing!

This would be the perfect machine for a geriatric person short on cash but eager to stay in contact with family.

Hate to break this to you, but it's a dual core Atom with a different name.

I'd be satisfied with a Bay Trail quad, but a dual? That's tough.
 
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Hate to break this to you, but it's a dual core Atom with a different name.

I'd be satisfied with a Bay Trail quad, but a dual? That's tough.

Not sure which would be better for daily usage actually, a quad or faster dual core. Personally though, I think I would spend the extra hundred or so for a haswell celeron.
 

Red Storm

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The type of people they're marketing this towards would have it loaded with malware in no time. They are better served by Chromebooks IMHO.
 

VirtualLarry

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The type of people they're marketing this towards would have it loaded with malware in no time. They are better served by Chromebooks IMHO.

MS really dropped the ball, EOLing "Windows SteadyState" with XP. It's kind of like Deep Freeze, as I understand it. It would have been nice to merge that functionality directly into the OS, to make it "bulletproof" from ordinary users.
 

hoorah

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Can't say Im a fan of the color, but these are definitely marketed at kids, or parents who buy laptops for their kids.

If they're going to crack the screen on something, I'd prefer it to be on a $200 system than a $600 one.

I think its a step in the right direction. Most people that buy windows laptops buy the bottom dollar one, so if you're going to go cheap, might as well go real cheap and have them be disposable.
 

VirtualLarry

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I think its a step in the right direction. Most people that buy windows laptops buy the bottom dollar one, so if you're going to go cheap, might as well go real cheap and have them be disposable.

Sadly, I have to agree, somewhat. Tempered by the fact that I fix PCs, and modern cheapo laptops that don't have accessable HDD / RAM access panels, nor user-replaceable batteries, really suck.
 

hoorah

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Sadly, I have to agree, somewhat. Tempered by the fact that I fix PCs, and modern cheapo laptops that don't have accessable HDD / RAM access panels, nor user-replaceable batteries, really suck.

Same here - Im always fixing something or upgrading it. The lack of accessible features on new laptops is a bummer for sure, but with the reduced cost you can upgrade the whole unit more often. I don't know if its a worthwhile tradeoff, but considering that most of my desktops are retired due to old age where my laptops are retired due to cracked screens, flaky motherboards (de-soldering due to heat), broken power jacks, bad LCD inverters, then yeah, I think that tips the scale in favor of replacement over upgrades.
 

Raduque

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The type of people they're marketing this towards would have it loaded with malware in no time. They are better served by Chromebooks IMHO.

IMO, WindowsRT would be better for these, with ultra high-end ARM processors. They're immune to malware, and RT does everything the target market wants. Netflix, Pandora, Facebook and email. Plus, a ton of worthless apps (and some gems) on the Windows App Store.
 

monkeydelmagico

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Same here - Im always fixing something or upgrading it. The lack of accessible features on new laptops is a bummer for sure, but with the reduced cost you can upgrade the whole unit more often. I don't know if its a worthwhile tradeoff, but considering that most of my desktops are retired due to old age where my laptops are retired due to cracked screens, flaky motherboards (de-soldering due to heat), broken power jacks, bad LCD inverters, then yeah, I think that tips the scale in favor of replacement over upgrades.

Agreed. These low cost netbooks/chromebooks are disposable items. Kinda sad but the new reality.

If you watch for sales an i3 laptop can be bought for only $100.- more. Totally worth it.
 

ggadrian

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Has anyone played with one of those already?

They haven't arrived to Europe yet, but I'm interested in buying one or two for office use if they are half good.

We usually buy i3 laptops with SSD for around 500€ for the office, and being just used for word processing, audio recording and internet browsing, and all of the data being stored in the server I thing that getting a couple of the 13'3 one's for the price of an i3 would be a great deal.